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DECWARE 300B Amp development thread (Read 5365 times)
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Reply #950 - 05/12/23 at 00:27:29
 
What the heck happened to the second part of Guttenberg’s Sarah review?
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Reply #951 - 05/12/23 at 00:29:50
 
He's lost in the music.
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Reply #952 - 05/12/23 at 01:37:00
 
That must be it Lon!
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Reply #953 - 05/12/23 at 02:15:57
 
More importantly any forum folk want to share?
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Reply #954 - 05/12/23 at 03:10:39
 
Low325–you actually beat me to it.  I’d also love to hear from the lucky few who have received their respective Sarahs, to chime in with their experiences.
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Reply #955 - 05/16/23 at 12:00:00
 
I'd really like to hear some owner reports as well.

I've made it to #107 or so on the list. I have been thinking ahead. . . one issue I saw was that I would have to do without a headphone amp in my main system (right at a time when I am using headphones more, as my wife just retired) as I have been using the pass through input connections on my Monoblocks to feed a headphone amp, and there is no such provision available with the SEWE300B . . .but. . . I seem to have solved that by buying a Bottlehead Foreplay III preamp for the audio visual system with two outputs so that I can add my PS Audio headphone amp to that system and free the CSP3 in that system now to use in the place of the ZTPRE in the main system when the SEWE300B arrives.  I'll be so ready when that amp arrives to give it the acid tests it will need to unseat my SEUFO3 Monoblocks. . . I LOVE those monoblocks.
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Reply #956 - 05/16/23 at 15:13:33
 
Lon,

If I remember you have a CSP 3 and maybe still a CSP 2, I assume you had not planned to use either with the 300B.  Also, a comment from one of Steve's many 300B posts stated that the 300B did not (or might not) need a preamp accompaniment.  I know you are thinking about headphones, but when you report on your experience, I would be curious as to what you think about the benefit of a preamp.

You are looking good at #107.



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Reply #957 - 05/16/23 at 15:28:31
 
Honestly I can't imagine not using a preamp. So many times it is noted that a preamp is not necessary for one of these amps, but I find I always prefer the amp with one. I am going to break it in with one and unless it sounds off or weird I'll only later try it without one.
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Reply #958 - 05/16/23 at 16:17:28
 
I plan not to use a preamp with my Sarah(s).  My DAC has volume control and voltage adjustment as a ‘preamp’.  Pretty sure at some point my curiosity will get to me and I’ll try to satisfy the cat on this at least for me.
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Reply #959 - 05/16/23 at 16:21:36
 
My DAC has volume control as well and I have a ZBIT as I use the balanced out. But. . .it sounds fantastic but even better with either of my great Decware preamps. That's where I'll start, and with the ZROCK2 as well.
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Reply #960 - 05/17/23 at 20:45:27
 
Fwiw, i recall reading SG’s comments where he thought the UFO25 was more transparent and the 300b was more robust.  Even though, its not my ears, and a very short memory recollection of his…this sort of aligns to the comments mentioned here that the 300b was more 2k res @60 fps and the UFO25 is like 4K res @30 FPS.  Well depends how you see it…

For those anxiously awaiting or are on the fence could be part of your decision - this could lead to some pre-expectations.  I’ll admit,  at times I do like every bit of detail in the music.  I love watching proper 4K content (not overly processed stuff)...it’s such a feast to see, but at times I find myself admiring over a bit too much the Pantone colors and lighting depths of 4K.  Then when you watch a lower res of the same content, you immediately notice it, but eventually you get back to the story telling.  I guess what I am saying is that, I’m personally trying to get something that sounds different to my current setup, but still is beautiful.  I know thats all subjective and how it’ll be hard to measure that threshold.  But I wont know till I try it in my room… and sometimes that can be difficult to do with all things considered…logistics, budget, WAF, time of day when the electricity sucks in the grid, etc.

Still looking forward to the folks who received theirs… it’s okay to say it ISNT to their liking…or wasnt to their expectations, and if so cant satisfy everyone and thats totally ok. 
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