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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Audio room... 01/20/17 at 16:50:00 Does anyone see a Decware amp?
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Lonely Raven Seasoned Member Jack of all Trades, Master of None Posts: 3567	Re: Audio room... Reply #1 - 01/20/17 at 17:03:11 Wow, what an interesting room!
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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: Audio room... Reply #2 - 01/20/17 at 18:25:14 Hard to imagine those TTs wouldn't be grossly effected by the sound waves.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #3 - 01/20/17 at 20:56:01 How is this one?
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #4 - 01/21/17 at 23:17:05 What? No room treatment?
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Bottlehead Seasoned Member Posts: 551	Re: Audio room... Reply #5 - 01/23/17 at 05:11:10 Doesn't seem to be much room for room treatment.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #6 - 01/24/17 at 04:13:01 This resembles my setup.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #7 - 01/24/17 at 13:39:27 Now, this is room treatment.
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Lonely Raven

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Reply #8 - 01/24/17 at 15:47:49

That's more of the room treatment from the Diffuser.com site (Swiss builder). They have their curved QRD on the walls, golden horrn on the ceiling, and clear acrylic winged diffusers on the sides.

I'm going to be cloning some of those winged diffusers in the next couple of weeks to see how they work in my listening room. I'll report more in the DIY and/or Room Treatment sections of the forums.

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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #9 - 01/24/17 at 16:07:58 Who likes the look of those loudspeakers?
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Lonely Raven

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Reply #10 - 01/24/17 at 16:14:36

We got to hear those at one of the Axpona shows. It was a quarter-million dollar setup, and was neat, but I'd heard better in small, sub-$5k listening rooms.

Granted, setting up in a hotel isn't the same as a well treated dedicated audio room where you can tweak every inch of everything - but it reminded me that money alone doesn't make a system great, it's the "everything matters" design.

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Matchstikman

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Reply #11 - 01/24/17 at 16:39:13

I don't know. You hear a system that sounds great in a hotel room then I think the chances are high it will sound great at your house. However, you hear a system that sounds great in a room that is treated to the hilt and you take it home and it sounds like sh*t because most people don't setup diffusers, absorbers, and all that other stuff. Of course, if you are spending $$$ on a system the chances are high that you are one of those people that treats their room.

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Lonely Raven

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Reply #12 - 01/24/17 at 16:57:36

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I don't know. You hear a system that sounds great in a hotel room then I think the chances are high it will sound great at your house. However, you hear a system that sounds great in a room that is treated to the hilt and you take it home and it sounds like sh*t because most people don't setup diffusers, absorbers, and all that other stuff. Of course, if you are spending $$$ on a system the chances are high that you are one of those people that treats their room.

Sadly, people with lots of money and high end gear, usually *don't* treat their rooms, unless they are up-sold into doing so, or have seen the light.

Any speaker or component that sounds worse in a treated room, is probably a poor design. Treated room lets you hear the source better...hell, lets you hear *everything* better. So if you're hearing better and it sounds bad, it probably is. LOL

But yes, I agree that if a system sounds good or better in a hotel room, it would probably be amazing at home...but I'm talking about a $245,000 difference in price!

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stone_of_tone

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Reply #13 - 01/24/17 at 17:10:01

https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1473298480

......why I post every now and then (over the last 15+ years of being on the Decware Forum)....recently, this above thread/just back in September.....about how important it is to treat your room. Talk about a representative sample....of System's with no treatment. Read Steve's comments too.

Anyway, I've had a treated room since 1994, when I read Robert Harley's ` Guide to High End Audio. Nice chapter in there/on the basic's.

Now, I am turning my attention to making my room even better/acoustically. Alway's room for improvement for this area. I have my System covered.

Listening Room:

Room Treatments from Michael Green & Home Brew

Sony as Transport (DVP-NS57P)

Illuminati D-60 Digital Coax IC

Shunyata Research Zitron Alpha Digital Power Cord to ZDSD
{Extremely Significant}

Decware ZDSD DAC / Recorder ++
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W/Steve's Output Transformer's/kicking to the curb quite a few superb DAC'S!
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(@ -20 Ref Level, 0.0 Input volume and @ 16/192)

WBT-0102Ag RCA Kimber Select KS1030

Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier
~BIASED at *60* mA~
(NOS/Platinum/Mullard E188CC/7308's in my A12 an B12 Input positions Cryogenic~NOS/Platinum/Telefunken E88CC for Inverter Tubes~NOS RCA 0A3's & matched Quad/Tung-Sol KT66's)
ZMA adjusted at 20% to 30-40% max ~ from 0 Gain

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Kimber Select KS6063 Speaker Cable 8ft WBT-0681-Ag Spades
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Acoustic Zen Adagio - Black Pearl (Modified)
.....from 8ohm Taps.

Acoustic Zen Adagio's x-over's Modified/Full Range with Mundorf MCap Supremes-single Cap to each Tweeter/4.5k cross
(Gutted: 3kHz/18dB/Octave, Linkwitz/Riley Crossovers....with all crappy parts = gone)

XLO Pro Power Cord to ZMA
PS Audio P3 Power Plant / Pangea AC-9SE from wall to P3
(Transport and ZDSD, Regenerated/*120*~ Multiwave off...ZMA on High Current Output)

++ ZDSD DAC, kicked to the Curb: Auralic Vega, PS Audio PWT & PWD, PS Audio Direct Stream DAC, Chord Qute, NAD M51 (twice) & Schiit Yggdrasil.

~NOS Platinum Tubes from Upscale Audio/Kevin:

(Great Britain) Mullard 7308/E188CC ~ 2 pair (both pair Cryogenic)
(Germany) Telefunken E88CC ~ 1 pair
(US/Great Britain) Ediswan CV2492/6922 ~ 2 pair (one pair Cryogenic)
(Hungary) Tungsram 6922/E88CC ~ 1 pair
(Hungary) Tungsram PCC88/7DJ8 ~ 1 pair.

From Cryoset:
(Russia) 6N23N/P-EB ~ 2 pair

(Russia) 6N23P's ~ 2 pair/came with ZMA.

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Room Treats-M.Green & mine
Sony TPort
Illuminati D60
Shunyata Z-Alpha DigPcord
Decware ZDSD DAC
Kimber Select KS1030
XLOProPcord
Decware ZMA/25th Mods
Kimber Select KS6063
Acoustic Zen Adagio/Modified
Kimber PK10 Palladian from wall
to PS Audio P3

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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #14 - 01/24/17 at 17:19:11 Whose room is this?
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #15 - 01/24/17 at 17:22:10 I think I've been in a place like this.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: Audio room... Reply #16 - 01/24/17 at 17:26:54 Yup, just go to the US Audio Mart or AudiogoN System's Gallaries.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #17 - 01/24/17 at 17:27:03 Check out all the CDs. Lon, is this your room? HA
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: Audio room... Reply #18 - 01/24/17 at 17:32:12 But, always good to see history repeat itself on this topic/on this Forum....when it is new to so many.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24513	Re: Audio room... Reply #19 - 01/24/17 at 17:50:45 Ha.No, but I wish I had that turntable. I'd sell it.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #20 - 01/24/17 at 20:35:20 I need me a pair of these...NOT!!
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #21 - 01/28/17 at 01:17:29 Can anybody spot the sweet spot?
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DBC Seasoned Member Posts: 423	Re: Audio room... Reply #22 - 01/28/17 at 03:13:26 Must be Hell Of A Lot Power to require a fire extinguisher in the room. Looks like the Audio Gremlin laying on the floor might have gotten fried ???
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #23 - 01/30/17 at 03:48:35 Even if these were the best ever made I doubt they'd fit through the front door.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #24 - 01/31/17 at 19:04:26 This was more or less my big brother's setup way, way back in the day.
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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: Audio room... Reply #25 - 02/01/17 at 01:08:08 The handful of lps is hilarious! I guess he spent everything on equipment.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #26 - 02/05/17 at 01:53:28 I like the furniture.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #27 - 02/08/17 at 19:04:06 What the?
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4krow Seasoned Member IMAGINE WHIRLLED PEAS Posts: 1608	Re: Audio room... Reply #28 - 02/08/17 at 22:37:17 Ok, so no hearing aids required for this setup..... well, probably 5 minutes after.
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #29 - 02/12/17 at 20:55:39 Check out the amps:
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Matchstikman Seasoned Member Posts: 759	Re: Audio room... Reply #30 - 02/13/17 at 16:31:17 Ok, how many of you speed racers has one of these?
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