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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10800 - 04/15/16 at 14:23:08
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10802 - 04/15/16 at 19:10:30
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10803 - 04/15/16 at 19:57:02 Doing some Friday chilling out musically while I go through the collection pulling out duplicates and putting all my Japanese Warner cds in order, together.
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10804 - 04/15/16 at 20:10:02 I`ve missed having a good session for a couple of weeks. My aching bones lol This is sounding so good.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10805 - 04/15/16 at 20:35:40
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10807 - 04/15/16 at 21:20:02 I`ve deployed 12 magnets and cant hear any difference.
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10808 - 04/15/16 at 21:57:10 4 magnets on the ZP3, thats 16 in total. Does it sound more immediate, cleaner with some extra ambient info or am I trying too hard ? Tomorrow I`ll have some extra ears to blind test with. We`re cookin
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10809 - 04/15/16 at 22:24:24 Probably is some improvement along those lines that you are really hearing. If you get more ears on it, let us know!
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Reply #10810 - 04/15/16 at 22:36:55

Syd,
That you are NOT hearing any difference does not surprise me at all.
Unless the transformers being tinkered with are seriously under shielded, any external magnet should make little impact on the internal magnetic field and thus the currents within the coils.
And even if it did I would suspect it to be highly un-tunable, or 100% trial and error with a very large number of permutations even amp-to-amp of the same model.
But I am always highly skeptical of tweaks any way so I am probably full of it! lol

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Reply #10811 - 04/15/16 at 23:32:08

Mr. Five by Five, late in his illustrious career. In fact, his last recording.

Bass – Milt Hinton
Cornet, Violin – Ray Nance
Drums – Mel Lewis
Piano – Dave Frishberg
Producer – Don Schlitten
Saxophone – Al Cohn, Budd Johnson, Zoot Sims
Vocals – Jimmy Rushing

I found this surprising and pleasing:
"The You and Me That Used to Be" was voted Best Record of the Year and Jimmy Rushing Best Male Singer in Down Beat music poll, 1972

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Reply #10812 - 04/16/16 at 00:08:00

Well, I definitely hear the difference with magnets. I removed the magnets from the ZP3, I find mine at least sounds better without them. I do have two each on each of the large transformers on the Torii, and two each on the CSP2+ transformer. I have ended up with them lower than Will had outlined, all of them are about 1" from the bottom of the transformer sides. I've also added magnets to the six screws on the aluminum top left and right side of the amp, and the four screws that are on either side of the OC2 tubes.

It's not a huge difference, it's subtle, but I hear it and consider it an improvement, a refinement. My guess is just a tiny bit more of the noise floor cleaned up.

Now on to an LP for the Friday Feeling. . . .

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10813 - 04/16/16 at 00:41:53 Warner Japan CD.
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Reply #10814 - 04/16/16 at 17:43:36

Well, my friend Nigel stopped by this afternoon and we spun a bunch of albums. Still no joy with the magnets. Nigel thinks that any change is subtle if hardly any noticable. I dont think my system is as highly tuned as Lons or Wills so they would hear subtle changes more easily and then be able to hone in.
I`ll continue to place the magnets here and there and maybe I`ll find somewhere that makes more of a difference.

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Reply #10815 - 04/16/16 at 18:22:15

Interesting. Well I do think that my power regeneration and my further isolation/power filtering with the PowerBases does really lower the noise floor and subtle changes in tubes, cabling, and yes, magnets seem audible. No harm or foul if you can't hear the changes, they aren't essential or really prominent.

Right now, trying out some tubes in the CSP2+ I found in a box in my closet, hardly used, Valvo E288CC. . . a lot like 7308s, taller. . . .Sound good as both driver and input tubes (I have three). Listening to something I know very well. . . .

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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10816 - 04/16/16 at 19:06:53 Picked up some CD`s today. Really digging this one. I`ve had the Philips 5R4GY back in the CSP2+ for a good 3 mnths now. It`s played in v/well. More voluminous, slightly, and a pleasing signature as compared to the RCA`s I grew to like. Miles Davis`Live-Evil` 7308`s. Another newie that I`ll have to consider.
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10817 - 04/16/16 at 20:42:15 First disc from this 4cd box set.
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Reply #10818 - 04/16/16 at 22:17:24

Syd wrote on 04/16/16 at 19:06:53:

Picked up some CD`s today.
Really digging this one.
I`ve had the Philips 5R4GY back in the CSP2+ for a good 3 mnths now. It`s played in v/well. More voluminous, slightly, and a pleasing signature as compared to the RCA`s I grew to like.

Miles Davis`Live-Evil`
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81yxkQfWXRL._SY355_.jpg

7308`s. Another newie that I`ll have to consider.

"Live/Evil" is a double lp that I've had since it was first released forty-five years ago or so! I used to play that over and over and my friends used to think I was nuts; they played Pink Floyd and other such stuff that was okay, but Miles and Keith Jarrett and John McLaughlin and Jack de Johnette and Michael Henderson and Gary Bartz and Airto and Hermeto Pascoal were the SH*T and set me on a path of jazz and funk that I have never quite recovered from.

Right now

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Core32 Seasoned Member Posts: 1862	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10820 - 04/17/16 at 17:28:54
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10821 - 04/17/16 at 20:10:02 In the Cave for Vinyl Therapy....two LPs so far, both reissues...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10822 - 04/17/16 at 21:07:09 Joni in the Cave...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10823 - 04/17/16 at 21:43:18 Art in fine form in October 1960...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10824 - 04/17/16 at 22:44:44 Now an Analogue Productions 45 RPM reissue of this...
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10826 - 04/18/16 at 12:31:40 More live recordings from "Pep's". . . .
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10827 - 04/18/16 at 14:10:48 Back to this incredible performance/recording. The new reissue is great.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10828 - 04/18/16 at 17:50:26
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10830 - 04/18/16 at 21:20:53 The new reissue.
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Reply #10832 - 04/18/16 at 21:59:25

Re Miles Lon. I`ve just placed an order for the 4cd box set of the Fillmore gigs ...all four days in entirety. Great reviews.
Yes the Live-Evil (only played disc one so far) very raunchy Mcloughlin. As per usual with this electric Miles ensemble work it going to take me a few listens to appreciate to a level where I can get over the surprises and.......oh jeez I can see a log jam ahead. :)

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Reply #10833 - 04/18/16 at 22:15:25

You'll dig that Fillmore box. I rejoiced when it came out. I had lived with the two LP "Miles Davis At Fillmore" since '73 or so and finally all of it was released. The LP set had each of the four nights edited down to one LP side. This box set has the whole of each of the four evening's performances. In great sound. (I bought the Japanese Blu-Spec CD2 version).

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10834 - 04/18/16 at 22:59:42
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Core32 Seasoned Member Posts: 1862	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10835 - 04/18/16 at 23:33:34
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Core32 Seasoned Member Posts: 1862	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10836 - 04/19/16 at 11:46:21 Jazz group I had not heard before.
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Core32 Seasoned Member Posts: 1862	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10838 - 04/19/16 at 13:21:11 Picking up the pace, just a bit....
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10842 - 04/19/16 at 18:31:28
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Syd Seasoned Member Posts: 1534	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10844 - 04/19/16 at 20:37:32 Thanks Lon, I was into Miles in the 70`s (electric) but for some reason never kept it up. Maybe his death... No Syd not another one..... `Fraid so
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 25829	Re: What's spinning? Reply #10845 - 04/19/16 at 21:05:50 Cool, Miles in the sky, the first Miles release with electric bass and electric piano on it. Awesome. Right now SHM-CD
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