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Yes, it is fun having shared a lot of exploration with pre stages in and out of the mix. And it is true my stuff is more resolving and nuanced due to all the modification work I continue to explore... As an example I have used before, I finally could not use the ZRock2 I bought from you (as it was then) after the initial glow wore off. It was just too slow and unresolving in the context of the rest of my setup at the time, the rest having been musically opened up for more immediacy and resolution. This made the Zrock off balancing in my setup, where it might not have been in others. So I think your point as to pre stage choices being different for us is well taken. Also, I can easily imagine the pre built into the SEWE300B being really, really good on its own for bringing out great harmonics and space with density and nuances... some things my modifications have been devoted to.
Relative to your 300B being better for your HR-1s, it is amazing to me how 6-8 300B watts can sound so big, smooth, dense, and resolved... louder feeling, pushing the HR-1s more optimally. I am thinking part of the amazing sense of power is from the tube, all on its own, generally being bigger in most areas of sonics... smooth and dense, expressive dynamics...and with with big space and complexity potential... just a big sound all around before looking at watts.
Still trying to get more clear on what I am hearing with 300Bs, but they seem to occupy a different enough zone that the tube is of itself. I am getting similar qualities from my 845 power tubes, an even bigger triode, but only one pair of those, so can't compare yet. But changing the 300B drivers in front of the 845s, or the 6SN7s before the 300Bs, produce pretty "big" sonic changes... I might say changes similar in bigness to how the big triodes sound in general. Equally, what comes before the amp is more notable and has more distinct gain tuning sweet spots here, often with less latitude than I had with my Torii IV... indicating the sonic power of these tube's also to me.
Leading me to: I expect for me, you, and others, the sonic qualities these tubes bring to the matrix (in a transparent platform) have similarities with what we want pre stages to do for us with some other amp types, the pre stages adding potential for tuning lucidity in dynamics, density, weight, complexity and space. I'm thinking that a nice 300B tube, in a fairly transparent design, can already do a nice job awakening these sonic qualities, so that adding more before with a pre stage (or three) can potentially be too much... thickening/coloring the sound. In other words, aside from gain tuning abilities, which I love, is a decent 300B tube similar to a well tuned pre stage in terms of what it can bring to the whole.
Part of what got me on this track was, at 200+ hours, my 845 amp is filling in down low... not fully resolved yet, but the bass, and bass in the balance, is coming in and up, so the overall sound fuller, warmer, and thicker. For the last few days, I was having a hard time with getting it open enough with tubes and gain tuning all three stages in front of the amp. This is part of why I first pulled the ZRock2+. Then I pulled the CSP3 after your posts talking about pulling yours, along with your comment about mine potentially being different, which I think is true having made things as naturally fast and musically resolved across the spectrum as I can. But what would it be like without?
Pulling the CSP3, it was different with just the ZBIT, but not better per se, the CSP3+ adding its own flavors, but with really good harmonic complexity. Other than that, the overall tone was quite similar with and without, but I missed the resolved complexity, and tuning ability with gains adjustments on the signal.
So while out, I decided to try to open up the CSP3 a little more, to see if a pretty subtle signature change might be amplified by these amazing tubes, while making the CSP3 a more powerful tuning tool with more flexibility.
I had a little 0.022 Miflex Copper Oil cap, with some smaller caps bypassing it, as a filter between the power supply caps and the internal VRs. I decided to take that Miflex out, the oils having nice complexity, but a little slower, smoother, and richer than Miflex Coppers that don't have oil (like in your amp), so thinking pulling this oil cap might head me in the right direction. With its bypasses still in place, I hoped the sound would be a little more open, faster and more translucent. Those bypasses are a fancier 0.01 Solen, and a .0033 Mallory 150, and those alone as this filter, the difference was pretty notable... doing what I hoped a little more than expected.
Now there is no question the CSP3 is helping me with this amp at this stage of burnin... giving me more complexity and flexibility for density and dynamics without getting too thick. And this seems like it might corroborate how powerfully these big triodes impact the overall sound... one little low value cap pulled in the stage before the big triodes, an encouraging difference.
I am growing really affectionate for these tubes as they too burn in. It is hard for me to keep any of the 300Bs I have in though, they are all so intersting in their own ways... so it is taking a long time to burn them in!
Looking forward to your future updates!
Will
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