For sure, Geno.  The variation in production week to week is so large that it is beyond the explanation that assembly is the controlling factor.  Like everything else in the world supply chain likely has a lot to do with it.  Though I'm sure the randomness of the each product being produced has some effect (making a complicated circuit with custom options vs. a simple amp with stock options), not to mention holiday business closure and the like.
For the most part I just leave the Decware folks alone and wait patiently...  though I never forget to mark my place on the list every weekend.  [smiley=50.gif]

Woohoo, officially made it the very bottom of page 2 (Torii MKV), and the top of page 3 (ZP3). So excited!

Waiting is not the end of the world. Just glad I am lucky enough to be able to wait for what is truly a luxury.

If there were a like button I would have clicked it on that closing comment, TheOtherLon.  [smiley=icqlite20.png]

Dang, that hurts—sorry Geno. Hopefully, they can overcome the parts situation soon.

I'm on the "other" list.  I ordered a ZROCK a few months ago.  The ZROCK at the top of the list was ordered on February 2022 and that is still at NEW status.  Most of the time I forget that I am on a list.  Years from now I'll get an email that says the gear is ready and I'll probably go into shock.  We shall see.

I looked at the "other" list today and every item listed is at NEW status.  Interesting how that works.

Hey Steve or Sarah,

How about an explanation on why there has been no movement with the amps at the top of the list in 4 weeks?

Last I heard, it was waiting on parts. I assume that is still the issue, but how bout an update on this?

Thanks,

Geno

When I ordered my integrated amp I was around 700 on the list and it took a little over 1 1/2 yrs

For those concerned about the orders that were temporarily bypassed on the wait list. It is due to parts on back order. We had a delay with chassis' for two models: UFO & SE34I.6. Some of the other models were waiting on transformers on back order. They have arrived from our supplier and we are pulling parts on anyone bypassed. Unfortunately we are still waiting on chassis' for the SE34I.6 but they should arrive soon.

Thank you for update. We try to keep track of money spent or about to be spent VERY closely now. Life changing events (health etc..) can get extremely expensive and I do not want my way better half wondering how did she forget about this $ if or when I'm not here. Time sure creeps up as we get older.  Build Back Better!  All the best to you guys.~ Mike   ~please continue with updates~

With the possibility of the UPS strike coming up soon, the supply chain will be in even more trouble. I would think that is certainly going to affect everyone including Decware and their ability to get parts. It's a situation that will be out of their control and even more patience may be required.

So the updates and any updates are very welcomed and very important.

Thank you for that and keep up the great work you're already doing.

Mannytheseacow Will probably have more precise data but my back of the envelope math suggests that Decware has been consistently putting out 10 amps a week.  This is just based on observing my jumps of 10 slots per week for a couple of weeks.

Thanks for confirming — you’re 10 slots ahead of me

I ordered my Torii MK5 on 10/16/21, just as Decware blew up...By the time my order showed up on the list one month later, I was #912. I received it yesterday 7/28/23, 648 days, 1 year 9 months 9 days...but who's counting.

It is beyond worth to wait, as I've said before, and as (almost) all here know. It is beautiful, it sounds great right out of the Pelican Case.

After 6 hours of playing tunes with my 15 year old daughter (we listen to music together all the time), it definitely sounded better that my solid state Marantz. I had her in tears during Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah...

My wife is a musician and very good singer and she also had a huge seal of approval on the whole thing, from looks to sound as we listened to music in the dark with just the glow of the tubes to light us up.

I can't wait to hear from all of you about your experiences when you receive your Decware amp...It is so worth the wait.

Thanks Tony—I look forward to sharing.  Sarah said that they are generally tracking 22 months so I am hoping to receive my amp by September.

Chris: Good to hear from you and thanks for sharing your experience with the MKV.  Jeff Buckley’ s Hallelujah is one of my favs.  His first breath on the track, takes my breath away every time.

Hi guys.

I got the email yesterday - Parts Pulled

Celebrate, Celebrate  
Dance to the music!!!

Thanks Kamran.

The long wait has been tough. And I have 0 patience, so that makes it even harder.

Hey James.

I’m really excited to get the balanced monoblocs going. The new Lii Audio drivers are getting broken in good just in time. I prolly have over 80 hours on them by now, so ready to match them up to the Zen twins.

It was encouraging too, to hear that you stayed with the SET amps. I remember that you were close to jumping on the Sarah 300b bandwagon.

Best,

Geno

"Mannytheseacow Will probably have more precise data but my back of the envelope math suggests that Decware has been consistently putting out 10 amps a week."

Averaging 9.5 amps per week since the split.  Like any statistical analyses the details are important.  Saying that they are tracking at 22 months is based on a customer getting on a list under 1000 people and the higher production occurring before the list was split.  Getting on at 1500, and factoring in current production, the wait is projecting at 3.25 years...  and if one gets on the list today at over 2200 one might expect the wait to be 4-1/2 years.

Great pic Mike — you’re almost on page 1!

Mannytheseacow—Just the kind of detail I was expecting! You make a good point about the 22 month tracking. That is how Sarah phrased it but the nuance here is that it pertains to orders from 2021. She also mentioned that this will be further impacted by the large number of orders during Black Friday.

Since the list madness began, Decware has consistently misrepresented how long the wait will be for a new amp. My guess is it’s out of misunderstanding rather than malice.  But a 3 to 4 year wait needs to be clearly expressed at the time of ordering, especially given deposits are no longer refundable.

There ought to be a large banner next to the “place order” button that says “Wait can be 3 to 4 years, 10% deposit not refundable” so that customers can consult with their doctors prior to purchase to determine their anticipated life expectancy

If the build rate of 10 amps per week is correct, then if you order today, your amp will be ready on or around Wednesday, 3 November 2027. You will be 222 weeks older. Plenty of time to save up!

Perceptions, or maybe it's auto-intoxication. Is it really possible that Decware amplification is so unique and superior than it justifies anything more than (IMO) about a 1-year wait?

Perhaps the real secret sauce -- ladled on with love and pure passion, I know -- is the positioning and descriptions of the products (I think unintendedly but it is still genious) that create a sense of total uniqueness and must-have product lust. Audio gods, etc. etc.

I am waiting for a pair of UFO25s. There were 900 guests in the restaurant (with its fixed kitchen staff), now there are 2300 in here. We can't even see how many people peer through the window, shake their heads and walk away. Nor should we care, I suppose. That would be telling Steve how to run his business.

To while away my months and years as I wait for my order to be served, I read Steve's build log for the UFO25. It's pure mind candy. Well, I will listen to nothing else after the amps arrive, so maybe it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Anyway, I'm glad I'll have the chance to find out.

It seems I’m on schedule to receive a SEWE300B in about 2 years & 4 months from now. But nearly a year after ordering I’m wondering about the speaker wait time? 3/4 to 1 year has been quoted in the past & I was hoping someone with first hand experience in the matter would weigh in.

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Last year at the Decfest I question Steve about the wait list and his response in his mild manner was, "It is what it is".

My educated opinion from spending time with him and various avenues of conversation is - he's in a happy place. He loves to tinker in his space and the cottage business affords it. Anything else would be a distraction from it. I also think the whole family feels the same as Steve.

John