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Fantastic power cable
02/25/21 at 01:26:20
 
A few weeks ago, I received a new Decware power cable. All of my components are plugged in to my ZLC power conditioner, so my plan was to use the new power cable from the ZLC to the wall. Of course, I hoped for an improvement, but what I got was a very nice surprise.

Of all of the other power cords and interconnects I’ve put in the chain, this new cable made the most significant improvement. I spent the first few evenings listening to recordings that I know well, and was shocked to hear lots of detail I had never heard before, hearing further into the music than ever before.

I am really looking forward to seeing what happens as the cable breaks in fully. This one is a winner, and highly recommended!
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Re: Fantastic power cable
Reply #1 - 02/25/21 at 02:35:27
 
I typically just accept what someone writes but seriously?  The power cable made a bigger impact than interconnects?  This stretches my credulity.  I'm not much of a cable guy, I guess.
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Re: Fantastic power cable
Reply #2 - 02/25/21 at 15:38:53
 
I don’t consider myself a cable guy either, and certainly wasn’t expecting that kind of improvement. I have several ZU power cables that I’ve used for several years that I thought were good. Could be that they were not that good and that the Decware cable is just significantly better than they are. But, since it is a Decware product, I will choose to believe that it is simply an exceptional cable. Smiley
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Re: Fantastic power cable
Reply #3 - 02/25/21 at 16:55:40
 
My take on this is that when you have really good interconnects and these fantastic Decware components you can hear the changes that a power cord, and power treatment, and isolation make. Some are subtle, some are more than that. I've had a power cable make a really good impact on a component more than once. Most recently I got an Apple TV so that my wife can watch new HGTV shows. (Oh joy.) I have an excellent HDMI cable connecting it to other excellent HDMI cables that split the sound to the Universal Player and the TV. I liked the sound but decided to play around with the power cord feeding it and so I tried an Audioquest cord with a C7 connection. A slight improvement. Then I realized I had one cable that gave a warm and solid sound, an Anylisis Plus Oval Ten, and an IEC to C7 adaptor and hooked those up. BOOM. Using the DAC within the Universal Player and then to the Decware ZBIT, ZROCK2, pre and amp the sound improved considerably. The picture quality imroved a mite, but the sound was surprisingly transformed.

I've decided after a few decades of personal research Smiley Everything matters when you have these Decware components as the heartbeat of your system.
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Re: Fantastic power cable
Reply #4 - 02/26/25 at 12:03:53
 
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I've decided after a few decades of personal research Smiley Everything matters when you have these Decware components as the heartbeat of your system.


I've become a cable guy, reluctantly, screaming and kicking all the way.  Especially when it came time to pay.  My recent experience validates Lon's comments.

I purchased a couple of DHC3 power cables.  Did they make a difference?  Yes and it is a positive difference. How much of a difference I cannot say because I also put in a new source in a new room at the same time.  But something happened that took this cable to the next level.  I decided to cut one in half to accommodate the set up.  If you're going to attempt modifying the length of this cable be careful when cutting into the jacket, it's double walled and you only want to cut into the first "layer".

One area that I didn't like was the highs.  Didn't seem quite right, splashy and somewhat compressed.  I thought, I need to be patient and give it time to burn in, until my patience evaporated.  I pulled the run to the UFO25 from the Puritan conditioner and noticed that I did not change the plugs as I normally do.  I had one Furutech F1-11 CU plug left and decided to replace the stock plug.  The Furutech connectors fit perfectly in the stock housing and I would suggest that only connectors that fit the stock housing are used.

Anyway, I put the cable back, inserted the Verve Stan Getz Bossa Nova CD and pushed play.  The difference that one plug made was HUGE!  If you do not think that a power cable can make that much of a difference you certainly will not believe that a single plug can make that much of a difference, and I get it, it's OK.  But it DID!

The mids and highs opened up, became very real.  The sax had a tone and texture that would make one think it was in the room and the voices, WOW!

Will you get this result in every system?  NO WAY!  The system has to be of the type that is very revealing.  The Chord TT2/M Scaler and UFO25 are incredibly revealing, and as Lon points out' will reveal, positive or negative, the slightest change that is made.

What's next?  Usually I mix a CU plug with a gold plated IEC.  I just ordered another Furutech F1-11 G IEC, kicking and screaming all the way!  The DHC3 deserves better connectors.


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Reply #5 - 03/27/25 at 21:29:47
 
Update: The DHC3 running from the Puritan PSM 156 to the UFO25 now has a Furutech Gold F1 11 IEC and Gold F1 11 Plug instead of the F1 11 CU plug.  Immediate difference.  So much so that after the next hundred hours I'll order the Furutech F1 11R to see what difference it makes.  I have the Rhodium plug and IEC on the DHC3 running from the wall outlet (also Furutech Rhodium) to the Puritan PSM 156.

Something that I thought I would never do... roll connectors 😖.
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Reply #6 - 03/28/25 at 09:53:29
 
Interesting Joman. I was thinking of changing the ends on my DHC3s but stopped short because of the broad rectangle shape of the cord. How did it actually work out with Furutech ends for you?
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Reply #7 - 03/28/25 at 11:32:56
 
It worked well.  In fact the difference that each connector made was immediate so much so that I found it necessary to adjust the position of the speakers.  Based on previous experience I use connectors with different plating on the opposite ends, eg; CU plug with a Gold IEC.  Next I'm going to try a Gold IEC/Rhodium plug configuration.  

A little more detail...
1. If you're going to attempt changing the connectors study how the shield and conductors are configured and terminated in the stock connectors and then terminate accordingly.

2. Cut away the sections that separate the three conductors.  This is also done with the stock connector.  

3. The cable uses double jackets.  Be careful to remove only the top or outer jacket.  Do not cut into the inner jacket.  I scored the outer jacket on its circumference until it would separate by "bending" the conductor.  Then score the outer jacket along the length that needs to be removed and separate the outer jacket along the scored length and remove.  When scoring you will have to judge how deep to score, do not cut into the inner jacket just deep enough to be able to separate the outer section that needs to be removed.

4. Pull back the braided shield and repeat the process.  The shield and conductors are then combined/twisted

If you're using 15A connectors keep the original connector housing.  The housing has an integral spline which aligns perfectly with the locating groove on the Furutech 15A connectors.  

For the supply cable from the outlet to the Puritan 156 I had to use a 20A IEC, Furutech FI-31G or 32R.  I also had to use the Furutech housing, and this will require some patience (in my case, helps to acquire patience) especially with the 20A IEC, but it is doable.  On this cable I used a Furutech angled plug, FI-12-MR, the housing on this connector is very well made and easier to work with.  I used the angled plug so it was easier to work with the short length of cable but it's not absolutely necessary.  

Which connectors you end up using will be dependant on your cable management.  If all you need are the 15A connectors, reuse the original connector housing.

Personally, I found the results well worth the effort.
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Reply #8 - 03/28/25 at 13:29:06
 
Think I got it. The Decware restraint's fit on the Furutech 15 amp plugs?
There was a good sale last year on Furutech when I paused. In todays market it looks like is will be awhile before that will occur again.

Thanks.
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Reply #9 - 03/28/25 at 16:35:44
 
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Think I got it. The Decware restraint's fit on the Furutech 15 amp plugs?


Correct.
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Reply #10 - 05/25/25 at 00:46:47
 
I think that I now have close to 80 hours maybe on the DHC-3, maybe 100.  After going through my audio stash in an effort to organize all the tubes, cables etc, I came across a couple of DHC1 cables also with Furutech connectors.  HMMM... I wondered how much of a difference is there between the DHC1 and the  DHC3??????? (my DHC1 also have Furutech connectors)

As much as I didn't want to wrestle with the DHC3 I couldn't resist.  I pulled the DHC3 from the UFO25 and the Puritan PSM156 and inserted the DHC1.

That lasted a gruelling 2 songs and the DHC3 went back in.  The difference is not subtle and far greater than I expected.  I've lived with the DHC1 from my entry into Decware and yes I do feel that they are a good power cable.  Which puts the DHC3 in a completely different level perhaps in a different league.

The resolution, transparency, across the entire spectrum is altogether different.  This is detail not for the sake of detail, not so that you can say listen to that decay - WOW.  Instead the details communicate nuance, emotion the very "soul" of the music.  The musicians, instruments and vocalists are in the room playing for you.  This is not a "holographic" presence it's the way you would expect everything to sound if the entertainers were present, live.

Everything that is said about the DHC3 on the Decware site is correct.  Remember, I changed the connectors and that also made a difference.  Personally this cable deserves better connectors even if offered as an option, well worth it and it was well worth wrestling with this cable.
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Re: Fantastic power cable
Reply #11 - 05/25/25 at 14:52:29
 

JOMAN, thanks for your post comparing the DHC1 and DHC3. It motivated me to get my DHC3 fixed, as it has a loose ground plug that did not change after tightening a screw in its housing. As a result, I put it away. I bought it from another Decware owner, so it is not covered.

Question to whomever might know: Would it be best to send it back to Decware for a repair or have a local shop do the work?  Thanks.
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Reply #12 - 05/25/25 at 15:48:51
 
Hi Tony,
I had the same issue with DHC3 cables bought from a forum member. Those were loose in the recepticals on my Decware equipment. So loose that contact was lost and equipment would not light up. I think that the IEC plugs twisted causing the loss of connection.
Steve recommended placing some shrink tubing around the plastic plug. It worked like a charm. He wanted me to ship them in for inspection and repair. He stated that this problem arises from time to time. The shrink tubing worked well so I declined.
Joman's simple workaround seems to be good. Something that is on my upgrade list.
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Reply #13 - 05/25/25 at 21:48:37
 
In the process of changing the plugs I noticed that the conductors were inserted into the plugs in a manner that would allow them to come loose from the clamps if the cable was twisted or manipulated in a way that exerts pressure on the connection.  As noted these cables are not that pliable.  

But they are they ever worth the effort, much like the rest of this .... 🤔....obsession.
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Reply #14 - 05/25/25 at 22:05:49
 
OK, time for a confession... I bought two cables.  At first I was not overly impressed with the initial results.  But I took into account that the installed the cable was part of a totally new set up in a different space.  So I wasn't sure that it was the cable that was causing what I didn't like and then there's the unknown burn in period if there is one, some say yes there is others no there isn't??????

I was thinking about selling one.  But something told me that there was real potential, which lead to giving more time and the change in plugs.

I'm not using the second DHC3 yet, and I'm NOT selling it!  If you get one that the conductors have loosened from the plug clamps, fix it or send it in to be fixed.  It's well worth it especially if you got a deal on one.
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Reply #15 - 05/27/25 at 00:35:53
 
I've been very happy tube wise and haven't swapped a tube in months. This year I've been fiddling more with power more than any else. I was reading this thread last week and just yesterday I swapped the "Furutech" ends off my Piggy and put them on a DHC2. I found in my system that the DHC2 and/or DHC3 are much better sound wise than the Piggy. I've got three more DHC2's and one DHC3 to upgrade the connectors now. I really like the DHC3, but on my rack the wrestling/twisting/swearing with it just doesn't work well. It works great going from the wall outlet to SDFB, although the connection to the SDFB is a bit tricky and if it gets bumped the SDFB loses power. For now it's secure and working great.
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Reply #16 - 05/27/25 at 03:00:35
 
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but on my rack the wrestling/twisting/swearing with it just doesn't work well.


Indeed wrestling with this cable does seem to add to one's vocabulary.  What I did to make working with it a little easier is cut back the web that connects the conductors a little more than stock, maybe 2".  This gave more flexibility at the amp IEC.  I don't think that it affects its performance.  I may even cut out the web a little more, (3"?) to release more of the strain.

This is not a recomendation for you to do the same... just an FYI.  With a section of the web cut out at the plug I found that the cord takes on a memory of sorts and when unplugged it does seem to retain most of the new "twist".

Still sounds great.

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Reply #17 - 05/28/25 at 12:31:44
 
I have to make a correction to my previous post.  I decided to pull the DHC3 that goes from the Puritan156 to the UFO25 to confirm the amount of Jacket that I removed to enhance the flexibility of the cable.  Turns out it was less than I thought.  I'll try to post some photos...

The first is the IEC showing only a 1/4" of the outer jacket removed.  This helped
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Reply #18 - 05/28/25 at 12:34:15
 
Next, I decided to remove a total of 1" of the outer jacket.  I did this with the plug on.  This took a lot of care so as not to cut into the inner jacket...
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Reply #19 - 05/28/25 at 12:35:58
 
This picture shows the final outcome with the IEC rotated 180* to the body of the DHC3...
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Reply #20 - 05/28/25 at 12:43:22
 
This section of the cable is very short as it goes from the Puritan PSM156 to the UFO25.  This final photo shows the length and relationship of the plug to the IEC.  There is no appreciable sonic difference by removing the outer jacket an inch from the plugs.  This completely removed all strain on the connections and made it very easy to connect into the UFO25 and the PSM156.

Note: I did this of my own accord and took responsibility for the outcome.  If you do the same you will have do accept responsibility and make sure you only remove the outer jacket.  Take care not to cut into the inner jacket!
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