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ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
08/24/20 at 08:49:37
 
When the 25th Anniversary Modifications were done to so many of the Decware amplifiers, did the ZBOX get anniversary mods?

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Re: ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
Reply #1 - 08/24/20 at 08:55:14
 
Yes, if you add the ZBOX to the cart you see these options you can add:

Mods:      
Poly bypass cap mod - adds $140
Beeswax bypass cap mod - adds $260
Mods:      
Tube regulation mod - adds $75
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Reply #2 - 08/25/20 at 06:48:29
 
I did not think of adding it to the cart to look for the options.
Thanks Lon.

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Reply #3 - 08/25/20 at 06:52:38
 
Has someone here heard the before and after? Either the VR tube or one of the bypass caps?

Has Steve commented on the altered sound somewhere on the web site or here in the forum?

I have read most of the threads in this ZBOX forum, but have not seen comment on the mods.

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Reply #4 - 04/20/21 at 18:30:30
 
Doesn't seem anyone has . . . I might send mine in later this year.
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Re: ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
Reply #5 - 04/21/21 at 19:37:11
 
The VR tube mod brings better liquidity, less grain because it cleans the power.

The Bypass cap mods don't change the sound either, they just add resolution.

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Reply #6 - 04/22/21 at 07:06:19
 
Thank you, Steve.
It is always welcome to get sonic assessment from you on the gear.

Happy spring!
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Re: ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
Reply #7 - 10/24/22 at 14:50:53
 
Dear manufacturer,

Can you please comment on the difference between the "Poly bypass mod" and the "Copper bypass mod" - in sound quality terms. Is the Copper (or was it Beeswax?) just "better overall" or is it a different flavor of sound altogether, where one might prefer one over the other?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
Reply #8 - 10/24/22 at 16:06:03
 
There is a lot of info on the bypass mods in the forum, I found this from Steve Deckert on the Decware Home Page:

These mods are technologies used our Zen Triode Anniversary Amplifier, model SE84UFO25.  They are designed to narrow the sonic gap between the SE84UFO25 and our other models by employing as much of the technology as possible in each.  The most common of these mods (found in the shopping cart for each amp) are called the poly bypass mod, or the copper foil bypass mod.  The later is used in our SE84UFO25 to speed up the power supply for more resolution.  The poly bypass mod is a budget version of the same thing with 80% of the same results.

To really understand why after 25 years of having many of the best sounding amplifiers in the industry we would offer these mods, you first have to understand what happened during the listening evaluations of the SE84UFO25.

You can find that design log here.

https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1510887200/57#57


I have components with the copper foil bypass mods and have never had the poly mods. BUT I have had a component with the poly caps and then had them upgraded to the copper foil caps (before the UFO25 and the bypass mods were introduced). The poly caps have a very good sound, the copper sound is a bit more revealing and detailed. The poly can be a bit warmer and more forgiving of less than perfect recordings in my experience. I believe these characteristics would cary over in the bypass mods.
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Re: ZBOX Anniversary Mods?
Reply #9 - 10/24/22 at 22:14:35
 
Thank you for your reply, it is appreciated.
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