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Zkit 60
01/10/20 at 00:36:28
 
Allright, I've had my new Zkit 60 (Known from now on as Dan, The Amp, because Zkit 60 is too wordy) for a whole day now, so I've decided to pass judgment on it.
First of all, Dan is heavy, simple and shiny. The packaging was impressive, no damage was going to happen in shipment.
Oh, I guess I should say that I bought Dan as a fully finished kit, for me it was the smartest way to buy it.
I hooked it up to my Bigger Is Better horns and fed it from my computer and Grace Designs DAC.
Well, I didn't care how the BIB's sounded with it, Kinda shrill, not a lot of bass, damn.
Well I got the idea of hooking Dan up to my open baffles, the ones with 2 15" Eminence Alphas and a 8" Tang Band W8-1808 in each baffle. Guess what? Bass, I mean big BASS, house ratting BASS, Wife yelling at you to "Turn that music down!" Bass.
Hmmm, I guess this is what they mean about solid state being able to control woofers.
Now as far as everything else, I'm going to wait for a while to let everything break in before I pass any kind of judgment.
My plan right now is to run this combination for a couple of weeks, swap my Torii back in for a day or two to get my baseline back, then really listen to Dan and report back to you all.
Did I mention that it has bass out the wazoo?
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Reply #1 - 01/10/20 at 20:32:05
 
At least make it a fair fight and paint the damn thing red ; )
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Reply #2 - 01/10/20 at 23:11:30
 
The color red adds +6 db gain! Sort of like how a Hooker Header sticker adds 6 mph to your car.

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Reply #3 - 01/19/20 at 18:45:55
 
Dan the amp still amazes.
He drives my OB's effortlessly to way too loud levels. Ludicrous levels if I were one to judge.
I'm going to run it until maybe the middle of February before comparing it to my Torii. That way it hopefully will be fully seasoned before doing an apples to banana side by side.
This spring he will be stripped down to get a nice red paint job.
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Reply #4 - 01/20/20 at 20:01:11
 
Do you find one input limiting? Or do you have a ZSB to run with it?
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Reply #5 - 01/20/20 at 20:29:49
 
Do you find one input limiting? Or do you have a ZSB to run with it?

I don't have a problem with one input, but I only use one source.
Computer to DAC to amp, that's it.
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Reply #6 - 01/20/20 at 20:42:55
 
donovan wrote on 01/20/20 at 20:01:11:
Do you find one input limiting? Or do you have a ZSB to run with it?

Preamps come in very handy for more than one input. . . Smiley
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Reply #7 - 01/24/20 at 20:47:49
 
Donnie, would love to see some photos after you unbox it!
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Reply #8 - 01/24/20 at 22:09:32
 
Tommy,
Here is a early picture of it.
I'll take more this weekend. I need to clean up my listening room first, a project pair of speakers have taken the room hostage.

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Reply #9 - 01/25/20 at 15:18:44
 
Here are more photos.









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Reply #10 - 01/25/20 at 15:31:11
 
Nice Donnie! Are the prices for these kits listed somewhere on the website?
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Reply #11 - 01/25/20 at 15:58:07
 
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Reply #12 - 01/25/20 at 16:20:46
 
K. Thanks Lon.
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Reply #13 - 01/25/20 at 16:24:29
 
Geno,
$895 for a fully assembled unit like mine.
Truthfully it is a steal at that price.
I'm really impressed with mine, it really sounds damn good.
The bass really stands out.
Right now Stephen Stills is playing at a pretty good clip on mine into my Bigger is Better horns and the room is rocking.
I'm going to play it for a couple of more weeks and then stick my Torii back in and compare.
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Reply #14 - 01/25/20 at 16:58:23
 
That is, for sure, a steal! I know it sounds great. I may end up with one on down the road.
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Reply #15 - 02/09/20 at 15:27:52
 
Well this weekend I have been switching back and forth between Dan the Amp and my Torii while breaking in a pair of new speakers.
My first impression is that the ZKit 60 sure ain't no slouch!
Nice and punchy, the bass is still very powerful and the overall sound is excellent.
But I will say that the Torii is still the master of soundstaging and sounds more liquid.
That isn't to say that Dan the Amp fails at these things, it is just degrees of each, with the Torii getting the slight nod. Seeing that there is almost a $1500 difference in price Dan the Amp can stand up straight and proud.
The general impression of Dan is that it is a little more clinical in sound, not quite as forgiving on poor recordings and very precise sounding.
The ability to really "crank 'er up" is a big plus for me when I need to wipe the crap of my everyday work pressures out of my soul when I get home from a bad day. The extra gain adds a few decibels to the top for that extra "Turn it to 11" mood.
Overall I am very happy with Dan the Amp, he is going to stay in rotation as a centerpiece of my main system.
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Reply #16 - 02/11/20 at 00:33:49
 

Nice...  and 60 watts of tube power becomes impractically expensive, so you now have experienced the reason we offer it : )

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