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New PS Audio Super DAC
04/14/19 at 10:36:39
 
Thought this preview might be of interest to some PS Audio fans here on the Decware forum. There is a good YouTube video explaining the two-box build design as well. Sounds like the DAC will be released some time in 2020.

https://audiobacon.net/2019/04/12/axpona-2019-ps-audio-obsidian-tss-dac/amp/

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Re: New PS Audio Super DAC
Reply #1 - 04/14/19 at 12:25:59
 
Some really interesting features to this DAC. . . . I saw these videos on the PS Audio forum. Going to be priced way out of my league, but should be amazing sounding.
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Reply #2 - 04/23/19 at 16:17:43
 

Yeah, I think Darko said the Obsidian was going to be $25k or something thereabouts.

Bummer - puts it well out of my league. I had to do 3 years Same as Cash financing to get the DS, even with the "friend discount" I got from Paul. LOL

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Reply #3 - 04/23/19 at 16:46:33
 

I wonder if the output voltage is better on this version? LOL
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Reply #4 - 11/06/19 at 20:19:06
 
PS Audio must be getting close to releasing the new super DAC because I just received an email with a link to a sale price on the current Direct Stream Dac. It's a significant savings! I have to say that I BIT on it and ordered one. I really wasn't ready to purchase something like that but the price blew me away. I ordered it with the Bridge II. Think it will be a little  better than the Sonos/Marantz streamer and dac? Ha Ha.
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Reply #5 - 11/06/19 at 21:30:36
 
Great news BH1! I have had the DSD for some time now. Some won't believe this, but it slowly comes into its own over weeks of use. . . . It took about 800 hours to truly bloom, though it would sound good long before--so keep using it and using it and one day your jaw will drop.

I can only imagine how the Onyx DAC will be when it's released. I won't be able to afford it, and I'll be afraid to read about it!
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Reply #6 - 11/07/19 at 03:29:22
 
Thanks Lon! I didnít think Iíd ever be able to afford PS audio dacs but it was on sale for 2900 bucks off! That puts it at the same price as a lot of other dac/streamers that probably arenít as good. My Marantz CD player has a digital out so I can run it through the PSA. No need for a switch box yet.
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Reply #7 - 11/08/19 at 00:05:16
 
Super happy with my DirectStream. And as long as Ted keeps tweaking the code that runs it, it seriously just keeps getting better and better. 5 years now it's been like I got handed a new DAC at least once a year!

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Reply #8 - 11/08/19 at 02:18:39
 
Great to hear. It seems like many people on the Decware forums have PSA stuff. Iíll probably set up a streaming/bridge network eventually. It would be great if PSA just included a streamer in it rather than a bridge.
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Reply #9 - 11/08/19 at 03:12:57
 
PS Audio is working on their separate streamer.

https://forum.psaudio.com/t/ps-audio-music-server-in-the-pipeline/3521/2
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Reply #10 - 11/09/19 at 21:47:12
 
Wow, what is the retail on that bad boy if you already got $2900 off?
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Reply #11 - 11/09/19 at 21:53:45
 
That's about half off.
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Reply #12 - 11/10/19 at 06:06:50
 
Wow expensive, but not insane expensive such as Total DAC's TOTL stuff and many others.  So BH1 got a great deal no doubt!
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Reply #13 - 11/10/19 at 12:54:43
 
I also received the offer via email, but I already have a DSD!
It is a good deal, maybe they are trying to reduce inventory on hand.
I recall when they ran a P10 special at around 45% off.
I bought a PW DACII from them for $1200 just before the DSD release.
Then bought the upgrade kit from Walter for $2,300, I thought it was a good deal.
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Reply #14 - 11/10/19 at 20:57:28
 
Yeah, they run some really good discounts and sales if you happen to catch them.  I remember I went to a preview of the DSD before it came out and Paul offered everyone in attendance 30% off. I couldn't swing it at the time,  but it made the price really hard to turn down.
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Reply #15 - 11/13/19 at 19:38:13
 
My PSA DSD arrived yesterday. I spent the evening listening to it. It took a while to warm up but sounded great. It has more punch and a stronger tonal sound so far. I accidentally turned it all the way off last night so I'll have to boot it up again tonight. It definitely set me back some cash but it's probably my only chance to justify spending that kind of cash on a dac. Now I'll have to start figuring out a network to hook it up to. I'll probably end up downloading my cd collection and set up a better streaming system than Sonos.
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Reply #16 - 11/13/19 at 19:42:16
 
Glad it arrived! Like you I took advantage of the only opportunity I had to spend that kind of money on the DSD and three some years later I'm still overjoyed with the device and it has been getting progressively better. I use it spinning all my discs and I have also used it to decode the digital out from my DVR and Blu-ray player and I LOVE the sound!

Keep listening and it will get better and better. And congrats.
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Reply #17 - 11/14/19 at 04:31:21
 
Hey Lon. Its sounding really good tonight! Iíve been streaming but Iím going to put on a Charlie Mouse cd and see how the PSA DSD handles it. No regrets so far. A really nice piece of Audio machinery. I would never have thought about it except for the forum at Decware.
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Reply #18 - 11/14/19 at 12:13:14
 
So glad you are enjoying it. It will keep getting better for a while. Keep playing it and swimming in the sound.
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Reply #19 - 11/15/19 at 01:51:53
 
Sorry to take over this thread but my DSD wonít talk to my Marantz SA8005 SACD player. The DSD window doesnít show any bit rates. Iíve swapped optical and coaxial but that didnít work. I can call PSA but when Iím home, theyíre closed.
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Reply #20 - 11/15/19 at 02:07:09
 
I don't have any personal experience with that Marantz player but I notice it has both coaxial inputs and optical inputs as well as coaxial outputs and optical outputs. I've made the mistake in the past of thinking I was connecting to the OUTPUT of my OPPO when I was connecting to the INPUT.

Is the little light in the coaxial or optical connection window on the DSD red (no connection) or green?

I find that emailing PS Audio gets results. Try kevin@psaudio.com -- Kevin Jackson is sales but he's been very responsive for me and will forward your concerns to tech staff.
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Reply #21 - 11/15/19 at 03:06:22
 
The light was red on the DSD.
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Reply #22 - 11/15/19 at 03:12:29
 
That means a connection is not being made. Be certain that you are connected to the output, not the input, of the Marantz. There should be no real reason why it wouldn't connect if the output of the Marantz is connected to the input of the DSD. . . . If that is the case and you have selected the right input on the DSD and there is no connection I think you should consult with PS Audio.

Also in some cases that light will remain red until a signal is sent so be sure to play the disc and see if the connection is made, or not.
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Reply #23 - 11/15/19 at 22:30:02
 
What about the price of the Super DAC have they thrown out any numbers on that?
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Reply #24 - 11/16/19 at 13:49:15
 
bike happy, I hope you got it to work! Update?

Hans,
So far as I know there's not been a price given on the upcoming "Onyx" DAC. Speculation is around 20,000 among some posters.
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Reply #25 - 11/16/19 at 21:02:29
 
I hooked up my old jvc CD player via coaxial and it works just fine. I switched my Sonos to optical and it works just fine. Itís definitely something weird with the Marantz/PSA connection. I might have to take a long lunch at home and call PSA to try and fix it. Either that or the two arenít compatible.
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Reply #26 - 11/16/19 at 21:26:31
 
Seems possible there may be something amiss with the Marantz digital output.  Glad the other sources are working!
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Reply #27 - 11/16/19 at 22:20:56
 
Hey Bike,

I had an issue several years ago with a Marantz CD player. Check your owners manual closely. There was a setting somewhere that had the player muted. Look at the EX functions first. Seems like that had something to do with it.
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Reply #28 - 11/17/19 at 16:09:23
 
Thanks for the tip Geno. I went into setup mode and turned ďdigital outĒ on. Viola! Apparently having digital out turned off keeps the glitter noise down. Iíd still rather run it through the PSA.
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Reply #29 - 11/17/19 at 17:07:50
 
Good news!
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Reply #30 - 11/19/19 at 02:25:41
 
This dac is pretty cool! My system sounded great with the Marantz dac and it sounds even better with the PSA. Itís hard to characterize though. Iíve read reviews and it can influence sometimes. Also the preamp part of the PSA could be contributing to more punch. Although I have considerably less in my bank account, Iím still a happy camper. Looks like a ZRock2 is being shipped as I type. Sure is a fun hobby.
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Reply #31 - 11/19/19 at 03:31:54
 
Hi BH1,
Just catching up on this thread.  How did you get notified of the sale on Directstream?  I checked their website and the Dac is full price. Is the sale still valid?
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Reply #32 - 11/19/19 at 05:35:11
 
Iím on their email list. I got an email with a link to a sale page with the offer and a password.
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Reply #33 - 11/19/19 at 10:42:38
 
Give the DAC more time, it will sound even better in a month! Congrats on the ZROCK2 shipping. . . that too will really benefit your system.
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Reply #34 - 11/21/19 at 03:07:10
 
Does anyone have experience with how Steve's ZDSD compares to PSAudio's Direct Stream DAC?  I have the ZDSD today and I am building a second system.  I have been thinking of the Direct Stream although wondering what sonically is gained from Decware's DAC.
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Reply #35 - 11/21/19 at 03:30:34
 
chumily wrote on 11/21/19 at 03:07:10:
Does anyone have experience with how Steve's ZDSD compares to PSAudio's Direct Stream DAC? †I have the ZDSD today and I am building a second system. †I have been thinking of the Direct Stream although wondering what sonically is gained from Decware's DAC.


If believe there actually is a comparison on these two somewhere in the either in the Digital or General Forums. I think it was Busterfree (but can't be for sure) that made the comparisons between the two.
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Reply #36 - 11/21/19 at 15:51:16
 
Check "Stone of Tone" postings.  He was quite vocal in preferring the ZDSD over The PSAudio.
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Reply #37 - 11/21/19 at 20:07:32
 
Right. He listened to the PS Audio DAC about 80 hours. Most seem to think it takes 800 hours to sound its best. He scoffed at that. . . but many users experience indicate that many hundreds of hours make a difference. I butted heads over him about this, because I know how both the PerfectWave DAC that preceded it and the DirectStream DAC changed for the better with weeks, really months of use.
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Reply #38 - 11/22/19 at 12:53:02
 
Thanks Beowulf and Archie, I have found some interesting threads in the forums. which have given me some additional perspective.  I am not sure I've stumbled across the ones you mention yet, but I will keep looking!
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Reply #39 - 11/23/19 at 17:42:42
 
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... †I butted heads over him about this, ...


Yeah, Stone could stir things up! † Grin

We haven't heard from him in a long time. †I hope he's doing well.
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Reply #40 - 11/23/19 at 17:52:31
 
Me too.
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Reply #41 - 11/28/19 at 14:50:10
 
Iím loosing confidence in my new PSA DSD. It wonít turn off to standby. I looked in the PSA forum and they said to turn off the back switch and then turn it on while pressing the front switch. I did that and it came on upside down. Third time turned it back to right side up. The touch screen does not work well either. Iím really close to sending it back. This is BS!
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Reply #42 - 11/28/19 at 15:01:29
 
I leave mine on all the time, display off. I rarely use the touch screen but I've never had issues like that! The sound would make me put up with it though. I have the DMP in front of it for years now and I've never heard better sound.
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Reply #43 - 11/29/19 at 19:11:26
 
After a couple re-boots, everything seems to be working fine!!
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Reply #44 - 11/29/19 at 19:33:17
 
Good news! Has the sound been "evolving"? I've been tweaking and tuning around the Windom OS and getting sound that just amazes me.
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Reply #45 - 12/02/19 at 02:34:04
 
Itís hard for me to tell. It sounds so damn fine that itís hard to hear the differences. Now that I have the ZRock2 hooked up with the dac, I havenít been listening to vinyl as much. It sounds awesome though. Sometimes it sounds like the guitar is in the room with me. Tonight however is vinyl night.
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Reply #46 - 12/02/19 at 02:41:08
 
Well, that's great. I love the ZROCK2 with mine as well. I could hardly believe the sound I was getting tonight listening to a piano trio. Clean and holographic.Starting off with Windom is q great thing, I think I have been through about 7 software changes, all improvements. PS Audio and Decware are a great combination.
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Reply #47 - 12/03/19 at 02:19:23
 
I spoke with PSA today about the dac problems. They want it back. As soon as they see a tracking number, they are going to send me a new one. Iím ok with that. They also said that it takes 100 hours to burn in. Anyway, Iím listening to vinyl tonight!
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Reply #48 - 12/10/19 at 02:31:34
 
Today I received a new DSD from PSA. Everything worked perfectly right out of the box!!! The unit was set on low output rather than high, which I use because Iím running non-balance inputs from my streamer but the touch screen worked perfectly to change it to high output. It already sounds great and will only get better with more burn in. Bikehappy1 is a happy customer! PSAís customer service was fabulous.
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Reply #49 - 12/10/19 at 11:21:26
 
That's great news. Now you can just settle in and enjoy the great sound.
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