I am in the process of researching a new pair of high efficiency speakers for now.  After I read the product description, I still have some questions.

On the HR-1 :
1.  Does the vertical (ear level) listening position matter ?  I read the long paper on the website but not quite get it....the horizontal gap opening on the top of speaker, is that the optimum height for the ear ?

2. The front speakers....it kind of imply a traditional listening window in space, does it affect the radial pattern in a negative way ?

3. What is the -3db response on the low frequency in a typical room ?  I think the speaker bottom radiator is ideal for bass.

IF the speaker is more efficient......but there are a lot of air to move inside the speakers !

and last, a stupid question.  for orchestra symphonic recording, is the HR-1 better or the ZOB ?  just when I thought the ZOB is ideal, now here is the new HR-1.


 

Thanks for the quick reply.

I read the posted paper about the radial speakers idea.  The most interesting thing is that, you are solving the problem of sound reflection of the room that distorts the music.  It is a system approach in engineering sense, not just a better cabinet, or a fancy driver.

One frustrating thing in orchestral music listening is to differentiate the different instruments.

Room reflection is physical, a real thing.  Spending $ on room treatment, it will be never ending.  Just like you said, there is NO typical room.

Thanks again.  I hope someone will post a review soon.

Buy these speakers you will not regret it.

FWIW my intuitive opinion is that these speakers initiate a wave front not unlike that of the human head.

Donnie have you only heard them at Decware?
If so, when you finally get your pair in your home there will be differences. They will not be subtle and they will be all plus. Or should be. Steve's studio space is quite large when you include the boundaries into the bench area and the walkway to the door and high vaulted ceiling being open most notably to bass. The acoustic space that the low bass sees is much larger than the floorplan where the couch sits. The bass response in my living space is "subterranean" compared to Decware's room with just the two HR1s. No sub woofer needed in house for pipe organ notes soundtrack "bombstics" and the like. ROCKS the room but not boomy.

Forgot to ask Zygi : Which of the Decware's amp drive HR-1 best (except the Torii mono) ?  

The mini Torii has 4w per channel,  and the Zen Triode has 6w.   Or Zen Torii for more power reserve ?   I know quality does not necessarily equal to quantity.  Any subjective opinion ?

Lets not forget all the other fabulous qualities that make HR1 a pleasure to listen to. Soundstage/imaging champs! Mid-range tone and timbre so smooth. Wide envelope of sweet spot to listen in. Top end sparkle that don't bite you in the ears. Work well with lots of electronics. Stunning looks. Guys behind it LOVE their work and care about customer!

I listened to both the HR-1s and the ZOB's behind a Mini Torii. For the volume levels I like, the Torii MKIII is the only way to go.
Man, I wish the economy would level out for a few months, I will drop the hammer on a pair of Koa wood HR-1's so fast it will make Zygi's head spin.

After emailing back and forth with Bob about his "baby," I pulled the trigger last night. It came down to a pair of the Teresonic Ingenium, for which I had all but written the check, or the HR-1. I doubt I would be unhappy either way, but I also believe I chose wisely. Lord knows my wallet thinks so.

beowulf poked:

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Exactly what my girlfriend said: "I think you need more speakers Sweetheart." NOT!

Anyway, my plan is to put one ERR set in the master bedroom, and depending on how good the HR-1s are with phantom center channel [trying it with the ERRs left me a little flat, so I am not super optimistic], I would give a second set to my eldest daughter who just bought her first house.

The HR-1 does do a locked in center image even when sitting way off axis. I am in the process of trying to get together a surround set up consisting of only 4 HR-1's using phantom center and if the processor will do it distributing the subwoofer over the 4 speakers "phantom sub?". The deep bass impact the HR-1 has (2 of them) at least in my rooms is so good that four of them should be explosive. I'm not a big "blowem up" type movie viewer but I do appreciate the big impact sounds from effects in various movie genre when needed to convey realism and an immersive experience.

Greg, I look forward to your impressions of HR-1. Let us know when they are on the way. I'll gladly walk you through breakin period. This will be fun.

Okay, I'm going to necro this thread.

The ERRx for an untreated 12x12 room or the HR-1 for the same room?

I'm talking Metallica to Mozart, Don Williams to Prince. Something that can do it all, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

If I dug tubes I would go for an Dec amp, but as is, I have a Benchmark AHB2 amp, and I'm between DACs at the moment, having sold my Chord DAVE, and looking into either a Linn Klimax DS or a Metrum Adagio.

So, now you know where I'm coming from. Oh, and I have a spare JL F110 sub that I never use if that might be a part of the mix.

Thanks for your help.

Nick

I agree - HR-1 are speakers you keep and use for everything.

I actually spoke to Steve today and he said to go for the ERRX. I think mainly because my room is a little smaller than posted, at a realistic 12X10X8. Also, I have nothing in this room. What's equally interesting, and I would like to see what the reaction of the speaker in my room are, but if my listening position is south, and the speakers are set up north, both the left and right corners of my south listening position form alcoves. On the right side is an open area that leads to a hallways, and on the left it is open, which leads to the kitchen.

In other words there are portals to my right and left. So, I would be very surprised if I got any standing bass because of the open corners.

The floors, however, are not carpeted, so I might do well to get a nice thick rug, which I was planning on doing anyway for aesthetic reasons, along with drapes behind the windows, which will be at the speaker's backs.

What's interesting, and I wouldn't go hog wild with it, but I pulled the trigger on the Linn Klimax DS, which has "space optimization." It's far less intrusive than microphone-based room EQ stuff. It might be able to fine tune things, or I might not even need it.

Anyway, I have a buyer for my monster speakers, now that I'm moving into a smaller room. Up close and personal, according to Steve, he thinks it will handle that metal, funk, R&B, as well as some good ol' Neil Young and chamber music.

*shrug*

Evolvist, you did see this ad...right?  https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1494076573/0#0

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Thank you, Mark. I think maybe he/she has sold them by now, though.

(and I'm not sure if I quoted you the right way on the forum. heh.)

Thank you, Dave.  Yeah, I'm thinking of taking Steve's advise. We spoke about my room, and he could have sold me on the HR-1, which is what I called about.

Now, the heavy metal, I just mentioned that as an extreme, but I rarely listen to metal. I just want to make sure that if I'm feeling nostalgic and want to hear a little old Maiden or Master of Puppets that I won't be limited.

Actually, I probably listen to more classic rock, R&B, funk, small ensamble classical, jazz and blues more than anything. Heh. Give me some old skool Beastie Boys, when we're talking what I grew up on.

So, it sounds like I'm covered for my small room. If I'm really feeling froggy I might just pick up the Tori Jr amp.  :)