i'm gonna put a WO12 in my friends Caprice (copcar). he listens to rap and wants loud low bass. what subs should i get and with what amp for not an outrageous price. thnks for any input u might have.

the wo is designd for 10s, if your friend doesnt have the subs already use 10s because many people have had problems scaleing it to suit 12s. there are many, many, many 10s out there that will play loud and low bass in rap and hip hop all day long.

build it for 10s. 36 x 36,

http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=9100c




please do it.  ;)

these look good too.  and yes, some whoop @ss 10's would be fine.
http://www.tcsounds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1013

thanks for the info guys. havent' there been a lot of successful WO12? r u sure a WO10 will play low enough? i have a WO 10 with the Dec subs and it doesn't go all that low. have u tried the DDs on a WO before? i heard that u don't want subs with a lot of xmax in a WO cause it will cause port noise at the throat. is that true cause these subs have serious xmax #s? and how do ur order the DD subs. what are the prices? what if i built a DB12 instead of the WO 10? would that be better? i've never heard one before. and are there any amp suggestions? and does THD% matter when it comes to sub amps? i heard it doesn't.i found this amp.

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6523_Hifonics+BXi+2006D.html

and the tc sub site says "Small Sealed: 0.3 cubic feet
Large Sealed 0.6 cubic feet

Ported:
0.5-0.6 cubic feet with a single 10" or 12" PR

(don't try and port this any other way, it just wont work right unless you want peaky SPL bass.)"
does that mean it won't work in a WO?
and it's SPL is 83! isn't that really low?

speakerfreak7 wrote on 04/27/07 at 00:51:53:


there's a guy on ca.com(caraudio.com) selling his IncriminatorAudio 20.1's for $325 each.  I'd rather have that than the hifonics ANY DAY.
the TC's would work once you factor in driver displacment, you may drop in some 2x4 to fill in any extra airspace though.  The  DD would work, there's even lower series that can take the abuse.  I run DD in my SPL setups, just in regular ported boxes.
post a worklog, this ought to be good.

go to ddaudio.com and look under dealer locator.  if there's not a dealer near you, you can order them online.

just lookn around. what about this infinity sub.

http://www.lightav.com/car/infinity/subs/subs2005.html

it says it plays down to 25hz and has a 91dB spl. for only $110.

or should i go with the tc sounds tc-1000? ot spend the extra $25 and get the 10 OEM?

http://www.tcsounds.com/tc1000.htm

http://www.tcsounds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1013

and has anyone used subs with 20mm xmax in a WO b4? how did it sound? thanks for the info guys.

speakerfreak7 wrote on 05/01/07 at 01:35:53:


i would open the compression chamber port area a little with very high excursion high power applications, just a little tho maybe 1 inch, to avoid any possibility of noise/issues?

Build a WO 10 and put these in it:  Decware MODEL DHMPRO

Go here: https://www.decware.com/newsite/mainmenu.htm, click Speakers, and scroll down.

Your friend knows not of what he speaks. The WO will blow him away. If he likes it, build him two.

Read the details on SPL with that driver. I've been looking for years for better drivers than Steve's to put in a WO. Now Steve offers that "better" driver. I'd say buy it.

why now TWO WO's stacked on top of each other.

That should be fairly loud...Thats what' I'm thinking of doing once I build a couple WO's

yea i'm thinkin either two WO's or a couple of 15's. any suggestion on 15s?

speakerfreak7 wrote on 05/02/07 at 05:45:31:


I hope Steve D. will chime in here and let us know how well these drivers perform in a Wicked One. How low will they go? I know they'll be loud, and with a reasonable size amp.

Has anybody reading here heard these drivers up close and personal?

Do they have substantial output below Fs in a Wicked One? (I bet they do.)

Braggi,

Im with you on this one...Steve has yet to designate an appropriate application for these hot PROS, the only thing remotely Ive seen is the warning that these PROs are not designed for the death box.  ALSO, is it just me or does Steve's DHM108 look EXTREMELY similar to the Dayton ST255-8 10" Series II Woofer sold on the parts express website? the specs are surprising very similar...hmmm but $35 cheaper on parts express.  should I just buy the Daytons for my Wicked One?

backfixer did u put them in a wo yet? how much did u pay for them?

speakerfreak7 wrote on 07/09/07 at 18:32:09:


I am almost done with the WO, prolly next week we're in biz.  I got the Infinitys off of ebay brand new for about $240 total to the door.  I am using oak cuz I want to stain it a nice dark walnut so it matches the rest of the wood in the house...that might actually add some time to the completion date.  I will definitely post pics later though.

Hey guys, I noticed you talkin bout the infinity 10.1's. I was deciding between these and Steves DHM108's. I did a bit of research cause the infinities didnt give all info on their sensitivity ratings, which i later found to be misleading. Infinity have rated the 10.1's with 2.83 volts @ 1 meter, this is equivilant to 1 watt @ 1 meter but only if the driver is wired at 8 ohms. When the driver is wired at 4 ohms, 2.83 volts becomes equivilant to 2 watts @ one meter which equals 3dB increase. The same thing happens when wired at 2 ohms, which now makes a 6dB increase. So from memory i think they tested at 4 ohms, meaning the 10.1's true sensitiy of 1 watt @ 1 meter is only 91dB. This is only half a dB higher than Steves drivers, if of course you trust Infinities specs ratings. I then decided to go with Steves drivers cause i believe they will prove better for sq, they are cheaper and come with a lifetime warranty, which is always good. Oh and BTW these things really do hit hard.
Sorry about the novel, hope i didnt offend anyone owning Infinities because I own some of their vintage stuff which is brillaint all the same.
Regards
David