Yes Geno, from the wall to Ecoflow. It instantly improves transient response. Right now I'm experiencing the largest, deepest, spatial stage ever here.

I'm with you!

Doug,

The EcoFlow Delta 3 Classic should be sufficient for your needs.

Just plug the power station into the wall outlet and then plug the 8 piece outlet into the EcoFlow. It should be that simple.

Very good to hear, Art!  I ordered one from Decware last week - supposed to be here tomorrow

Even though JBZen said he heard a difference when he put a quality power cord from the wall to the EcoFlow, I still couldn't quite wrap my head around why the cord from the wall to the power plant would make a difference. Once I had the power cords in, I wanted to try and yes it did. But I am conceptually a little at a loss that a small refinement could be so clearly audible. I still am a little cautious since I really don't know the full measure until the power cords break in.

I installed my other power cord to my DAC a little while ago and I can still detect a small difference in the sound, although presently less than the other 2 power cords. I still have break-in to do.

Lon,
It appears you may be right about power cords. This is the first time in a while that I have used regular power cords in my system and I can clearly hear the difference to and from the power plant.

Lon, I will have have to give that a listen,  I heard the Dead  “on their way” to Egypt.  The New Riders and Willie Nelson and Family opened for them.  It was at Giants' Stadium in NJ and I really enjoyed the show.  A different type of A/B test on the way!

My system is sounding great and my new Caintuck piano black baffles with Lii song F-15s sound great.  I was invited by Randy to stop in to his place and got to listen to his system which was magical.

He played “Big Bad John” by Geoff Castelucci.  Good for checking out the bass.

Randy is a great guy and I enjoyed the visit.

Lon has been one of my Decware “yodas”.

Steve is never in a hurry to answer my “how do I turn a screwdriver” questions.

Hats off to all three of them!

Sgt. Pepper

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There is no doubt with a 10 gauge shielded power cord. The difference is obvious. One don't need a blind test or gauges with our systems.
I've not spent much time listening lately. I can not really give any detailed opinion on the differences.

I found in my experience and system that directional power cords are best for cleaning up some noise and go a long way for eliminating hum(ground loop). Also, audio ICs benefit greatly being directional with shielding. The direction of both power and signal cables should always start from the left(source) and terminate unconnected at the right inside the shield of the following end. Most economical power cord ends are made of plastic which will lead to some acceptable leakage IMO. I also found it is a necessity to check Chinese work with their power cables and ICs. Had to make a few of those right. Ideally audio IC ends are made of brass/copper and/or alloy plated with various metals. Nude copper is my preference. Unshielded plastic ends with audio signal are unacceptable IMO.

As far as wire size in both ICs, it seems that the larger the better is true. But, size should be tuned with ears-not science. It might be more a matter of practical means. It would be very impractical to run four ought cable to a room as well as using 10 gauge wire for audio interconnects.

Shorter is better. The longer the IC of both power and audio will generally create a time lag of response to demands. Resistance, capacitance, magnetism, time and dimension is all in play here. It is not just one or the other. Again IMO.

The R2Max's fan seems to not run with my routine in place. It is plugged in 24/7. The small wattage drawn by the CXNV2 on standby does not show up on R2Max's display. Over a 96 hour period just the streamer was used for about 3 hours when spinning in a different room increasing the draw on the R2Max. The stereo was not used in that time period. With that said, the battery charge is at 50% in 96 hours which prompts it to charge back at 100%. The fan might run then. I have not been in the room yet when that charging cycle begins. At that point it requires my attention to set it back to 50% charge cycle with the app. If I don't set it back it would start charging at a few % points maintaining max charge in case of a power outage. There is an automation section in the app that has if/then statements. Going to see if I can make my scheme automated next.

I have not noticed the fan run while listening to tunes in the Chariot using the R2Max in this manner. The unit is in the back of the isolation stage setting on the floor.

MM,

I missed out on the Decware cable sale, got to it too late. I checked out a number of power cables online and was hesitant to commit to any one. I finally bought some $40 generic "Audiophile" power cords that looked pretty solid in build. Having them here, the quality looks impressive for a $40 cable. The only thing I am sure of is they sound better than the EcoFlow power cord prior to break-in. The second cord will be used to power my DynaGrid Jr. when I receive it. It could still be a few months until that happens. I was able to use my existing Piggy cord to attach to my DAC. I can give you a link if you are interested for the power cords.

Lon,

I also trust my ears over any understanding that I could create for how things work. And like you and others, most everything at this point appears to involve subtleties. It is a wonderful place to be.

JBZen,

I bought a quality power strip to link my power conditioner to my DAC, laptop and preamp. Adding these ended adding another 10-15 watts to my flow from my EcoFlow. I am now up to 125 watts. I think the only time I ever heard my EcoFlow fan running was when I was charging it up, not when actually running my system. I've set my max charging draw at 200 watts when plugged in. That may possibly help when charging.

Thanks Artman. I missed the DHC3 sale too- Decware emails always go straight to my junk mail for some reason.
No reason to be ashamed of Chinese budget power cords. I have seven or so different types around. Most big name cables are coming from China anyway so it’s hit and miss what quality you get with the lower cost ones.

I always check the noise floor in all my cables and between all my cables currently there is as much as 10db difference. One of my preferred cables right now is actually a $30 cable. In my experience the problem with the budget cables isn’t the wire but the connectors. They are generally a good source of wire and throw some Furutech ends on them and they’ll hold their own. Funny though, I don’t find that Furutech connections generally have a tight connection that I feel good about.

Unlike others I don’t believe in using the same cables throughout my system. I think the demands of your main amp are different than what makes a DAC shine. All our systems, rooms, and musical tastes are different though- so this is just what I believe is best in my music room. So, that was my main reason for asking what cord you were using; just trying to put into context in my head “what would be the characteristics of a great power cord for connecting an ecoflow to the wall?”  

I still haven’t done any serious A/B testing on power cords with mine. I used the stock cable initially and switched to an 8ga copper homemade cable shortly after and that’s been there ever since.

HK,

The Delta 3 Classic (shown below) is just a bit smaller than a typical PC, and stands vertically. John’s pic above of his, is positioned horizontally, so a lower profile where you said you wanted to place it.

Thanks John for your observations on the River2 Max . The River2 Pro has a larger 800 watt capacity and I prefer the smaller footprint of the River line up, so I think it should work well in my setup.

HK

I wanted to get some feedback from Decware Ecoflow users now that some time has elapsed. Have any issues cropped up? Is the battery charge holding up well? Any additional comments or thoughts?

I plan to get an Ecoflow River model shortly. Thanks but.

HK

Been meaning to circle back around to this thread…things have got busy and sucked out most of my free time.  Anyhow, loving the River 2 Pro. I’ve only have me small issue, if I plug the EcoFlow in or unplug it from wall while the system is playing I get a fuzzy slow fizzle with the sound but it ramps right back up. Easy fix, don’t do that.

One thing I have noticed, and this goes back to Steve’s saying if there’s a weak link in the chain when using Decware amps you’ll hear it. I made a double outlet box out of an isobar strip that went south. I left the original power cable connected. Took awhile to figure out that cable was not worthy. Opened it back up and replaced it. Immediately the mid range “glare” I was getting here and there was gone. The whole system is now very good without fatigue. I suppose the lesson here is if you’re going with an EcoFlow it will expose “weaknesses”.

I had planned to try the EcoFlow on my vinyl rig. That hasn’t happened yet. I need to try it soon and if it works out a second EcoFlow will be ordered to keep from moving things back n forth.