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Reply #150 - 01/18/26 at 19:08:47
 
Thanks for weighing in with initial thoughts.
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Reply #151 - 01/18/26 at 23:46:32
 



I feel I’ve finally had enough time with the Dynagrid Jr. to share some observations and listening notes.

First, I’ll admit I felt a little silly buying it. I’ve dealt with arcing rectifiers in the past, which helped me justify the purchase, but if I’m being honest, it was mostly FOMO and a moment of impulsiveness that pushed me over the line.

I told myself that I could try it out, and if I felt it wasn’t worth the price tag, I could turn around and sell it for what I paid for it. Part of me may have been hoping that would happen, with the pragmatic, frugal little accountant on my shoulder prevailing over the voices from the other side.

My first impressions of the Dynagrid, paired with my UFO25, were very positive. It sounded huge and room-filling. Did it always sound this good with my previous rectifier? I wasn’t sure, to be honest.

This morning, I decided to try some A/B testing, which I had been avoiding. I was worried I’d think I heard an improvement with the Dynagrid, but wouldn’t feel confident it was a true upgrade, and then I’d talk myself into believing it probably was, and keep the unit anyway, sheepishly. The gremlin on the other shoulder striking again.

I unplugged the Dynagrid and inserted my preferred Cyrotone 5AR4, and cued up a track I’m very familiar with. I listened to the first 90 seconds or so, powered everything off, then back to the Dynagrid for 90 seconds of the same track, and then repeated this a couple times, swapping out records to hear a variety of albums of various pressing quality.

The verdict? This thing is the real deal.

The Cryotone 5AR4 still sounded great, but it was noticeably a little looser in the bass, slightly less refined overall, and not quite as transparent. With the Dynagrid plugged in, the sound was somehow tighter, cleaner, and more effortlessly resolved.

While these characteristics were noticeable and important, they still felt secondary to the most obvious improvement: the expansion of the soundstage. Closing my eyes, it was as though someone had moved my speakers several feet farther apart, while maintaining the center image.

This initial “hugeness” was what I noticed about the Dynagrid when I first plugged it in. After A/B testing, I realized the Dynagrid was, in fact, providing a much larger and more immersive perceived field of sound than I was used to, as if the giant size of the 845 tube was somehow indicative of what I was hearing. I’m guessing that this effect alone would be enough for most users on this board to justify giving the Dynagrid a try. It would be for me.

But as I’ve been listening to the Dynagrid for several hours, I’m realizing that while the expanded soundstage is the most immediately obvious thing it brings to the table, the real star of the show is the jump in transparency and atmosphere. Images are more clearly defined and more stable in space, low-level detail comes through without being forced, and you hear more of the decay and air around notes, the little cues that make a system feel alive and “in the room.”

At the end of the day, the Dynagrid feels less like a subtle tweak and more like a meaningful upgrade, at least in my system. It doesn’t change the character of the UFO25 so much as it lets more of what the amp is already capable of come through, with better control, more clarity, and a more convincing sense of space. And yes, a bigger soundstage.

Needless to say, I will be keeping the DG Jr.

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  • Radiohead – In Rainbows (2x 45rpm box set)
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  • Willie Nelson – Stardust (AP 45rpm)
  • Bill Evans – Waltz with Debby (OJC, Craft)
  • Patsy Cline – Greatest Hits (AP 45rpm)
  • Bob Dylan – Blood on the Tracks (US first pressing)
  • Brian Eno – Another Green World (45rpm Half Speed Master)
  • The Beach Boys – Surfer Girl (AP 45rpm)
  • Yamamoto Tsuyoshi Trio – Midnight Sugar (45rpm)
  • Fleetwood Mac – Rumours (US first pressing)
  • Frank Sinatra – In the Wee Small Hours (Blue Note Tone Poet)
  • Miles Davis – In a Silent Way (Mofi)

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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #152 - 01/19/26 at 00:07:45
 
Bri, thanks for weighing in with this well-written statement of what you are hearing.

What you describe reminds me of what I heard when I first got an amp upgraded wtih the Anniversary mods, smilar sounstage and detail revealing improvements. Which in some ways makes sense. Looking forward to seeing if that mirrors my own future experience.
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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #153 - 01/19/26 at 03:44:42
 
HiFi Bri- Fantastic review and write up.  Glad to hear you are enjoying a worthwhile system improvement with the Dynagrid.   Darn you 🤣.  Now it’s getting even more tempting.  Ummm how do I carve out space for a Dynagrid.
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Reply #154 - 01/19/26 at 08:40:36
 
Great HiFi Bri, you are nibbling away at my patience! Another temptation to ignore constraints. But, you bring out another reason to hold off a bit longer. That is, the gremlins amounst us that are subdued with reality. I am in the process of a new SE84UFO25 break in. On the fence between either a Zrock3 and/or the DynaGrid. A new turntable that needs setup. IC wires to be braided. Etc, etc It never ends.

Nice review.

Bated breath Huh

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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #155 - 01/20/26 at 18:53:10
 
I got a message earlier today that my Dynagrid Jr. was on the bench. . . . Now it has been updated to "Testing."
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Reply #156 - 01/20/26 at 23:13:49
 
And now it has passed through "Quality Control" and into "Packing and Shipping." That is FAST.
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Reply #157 - 01/21/26 at 00:27:03
 
I'm very interested in your review Lon. I'm glad I/we won't have to wait much longer.
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Reply #158 - 01/21/26 at 00:31:51
 
Already 16 Dynagrid orders on the Accelerated list.  At least, I'm on top.
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Reply #159 - 01/21/26 at 00:34:25
 
Thanks for the kind words everyone!

I'm interested to see what other have to say.
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Reply #160 - 01/21/26 at 18:56:14
 
One thing I’ve certainly noticed in a week-and-a-half of the DGR in the chain is my UFO25 is definitely running much cooler.

On the other hand, that 845 puts out some heat!

What’s the consensus regarding “breathing” space above the tallest tube for those of you who have your tube components on a rack with shelves above?
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Reply #161 - 01/25/26 at 23:51:45
 
Blu, my rack has 2"maple shelves and my tallest tube is about 1.5 inches below the shelf above, and there is no problem in this situation in any way.
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Reply #162 - 01/26/26 at 00:05:23
 
Well, I've read through this thread three times as well as the manual three times. I've the pic of the Jr. as my laptop wallpaper. I've purchased a matching power cord, a fuse and found the second best isolation feet from swapping around and using my extra ones in another system. I've re-arranged the system to make the best spot for the Jr. and after a day of settling in man it all sounds so so good.

I'm getting excited! I hope it ships this week and am looking forward to that first listen. I think this is going to be a great addition, a finishing touch, icing on the cake.
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Reply #163 - 01/26/26 at 16:41:59
 
And I just received a message that the Jr. has shipped. Smiley
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Reply #164 - 01/27/26 at 02:08:18
 
Congrats, Lon. Now if the UPS guy can just get to you…

I’ll be interested in your impressions of the DGR. Unfortunately, the two amps that I’d consider using a DGR on both have dual rectifiers. Sigh.

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Reply #165 - 01/27/26 at 03:15:37
 
Congrats Lon – so excited for you!
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Reply #166 - 01/28/26 at 13:58:40
 
An add in US Audiomart for the DynaGrid Jr. No affiliation or comment. Just wanted to share.
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Reply #167 - 01/28/26 at 19:59:31
 
Wow they want a lot for that!
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Reply #168 - 01/28/26 at 20:22:18
 
Yeah, that "used" pricing is a little on the "Optimistic" side!

Probably a couple of boxes filled with bricks.
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Reply #169 - 01/28/26 at 23:32:41
 
Well, the Dynagrid Jr. was on the truck for delivery all day. . . and suddenly this hour it has been changed to a delay, "The delivery date will be provided as soon as possible."

Sigh. And so it goes.
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Reply #170 - 01/29/26 at 00:18:38
 

Oh Lord, I hate it when that happens! Seems like a glass of wine would help. Smiley
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Reply #171 - 01/29/26 at 02:20:23
 
Sorry, Lon. Didn’t mean to jinx you with the comment about the UPS guy not being able to get to you. Hopefully tomorrow.

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Reply #172 - 01/29/26 at 02:33:51
 
JB,

I saw the Dynagrid ad on USAM, and was taken aback by the price that he’s asking. Doesn’t quite seem to have caught the Decware spirit, does he?

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Reply #173 - 01/29/26 at 03:47:25
 
Lon, sending good vibes your way—hopefully it will arrive tomorrow!
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Reply #174 - 01/29/26 at 10:01:29
 
Tony, i'm not a drinker of "adult beveralges." But I took it in stride, and it's rescheduled for today, late though, 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.

I think that the drivers were overloaded yesterday with a backlog of packages from a few days when deliveries they made were limited.
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Reply #175 - 01/29/26 at 10:49:42
 
I have not received mail in 3 days. My neighbor has, but only personal mail. None of the usual junk mail like local add mailers, etc. I even cleaned a pull up area to the mail box in an effort to help the mailman. That snow is turning into ice! I'm sure there are many out there that are not being too considerate of the issues created with prolonged(weeks) below freezing temps and over a foot of snow on the ground. Good to hear it is on the way Lon.
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Reply #176 - 01/29/26 at 11:04:01
 
I've received mail every day. And amazon deliveries were not delayed. We approved a hefty bond a year ago for road maintenance, and it's paid off--even in our sparsely housed (mainly retired) neighborhood the county very speedily reacts with plowing and salting. That is a change from the last decade or so, a welcome one.
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Reply #177 - 01/29/26 at 15:27:28
 
I’ve enjoyed the reviews so far. I just want to mention that the experience of myself and others is 845 tubes took a hundred or more hours to break in when used in a STR. It will be interesting to see if people notice this with the DGR.
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Reply #178 - 01/29/26 at 15:44:05
 
I expect tube break-in these days, after decades of experience. The Linlai 300B tubes I had took about fifty hours to start to open up.

I'm hoping to keep the stock Linlai 845 in place though I confess I will be very curious to hear how another model of Linla might sound--one with the black carbon spray within. The current 300B tubes I use and the rectifier I am using have this coating inside the tubes and I hear a distinct family sound characteristic that I really love, a slightly dark warm texture . . . I know that when I recover financially a bit I'll try one. One stumbling block is that they seem to only be sold in pairs.
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Reply #179 - 01/29/26 at 16:38:06
 
Based on Steve’s recent post that the 845 isn’t responsible for rectification, but rather is a “pass-through regulator” and subsequently won’t necessarily affect the SQ, I’m thinking of putting my Mullard GZ34 that was previously in the UFO25 in my ZP3.  I’m thinking I would get more bang for the buck with that swap.
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Reply #180 - 01/29/26 at 16:49:15
 
Which GZ34 do you have? I really love the so called “fat base smooth plate”, but the notched versions didn’t do much for me. Of course the FBSP is considered more expensive.
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Reply #181 - 01/29/26 at 17:19:40
 
It’s the fat base smooth plates.  I really liked the richness and deeper bass it brought to the UFO25.  It’s in the box for now.  I want to live with the DGR for a while before rolling it into the ZP3.
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Reply #182 - 01/29/26 at 19:40:04
 
Not having to chase down a pricey 845 is a welcomed relief to me. For 3 seconds I peeked at a $2k RCA 845. LOL
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Reply #183 - 01/29/26 at 20:27:26
 
Yes, that's ridiculous in a way and a sign more likely of scarcity, not necessarily sonic quality. Those I'm eying are less than 300 a pair.
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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #184 - Yesterday at 19:49:31
 
UPDATE 4/09/26

Someone posted a picture of the inside of the DynaGrid JR. in the reviews section championing it's simplicity which is kind of great timing because I have recently been working on the original DynaGrid this month again with that same theme in mind.  

I have been using it since the beginning in all of its iterations, and sadly haven't found any pictures of the inside because I wanted to show the contrast between its complexity and the JR.  Unlike the JR, the original was very complex.  It had two independent power supplies, a variable regulator for adjusting the grid voltage relative to the plate and cathode, stiffening capacitors, a ground lift relay for safety, partial bypass circuit for eliminating the voltage drop altogether if you want, the bias supply is complex, additional switches and a pot.  Inside the unit are additional voltage displays that can not be seen from outside.

I has been changed so many times I've lost count, which is why there is yet to be any pictures.  

I am pleased to say that all of that gave me a unit that worked exactly as I wanted, being able to both raise and lower the voltage drop on the fly, and the sound was great.  I only had one glitch, and that was a noise issue with my vinyl rig.  The unit was broadcasting a weak 60 cycle signal through the air (from the tube) and being picked up by the phono cartridge when you get it less than a meter away.  

As for the JR, that was a Eureka moment when I thought of another way to do everything, sans the adjustability, with three wires instead of four.  Not to mention make a bomb proof design that can be used with my vinyl rig in total silence.  Once I had both designs, I did all testing on digital rigs so I could A/B repeatably and that's when I realized that the adjustability is probably over rated.  It would be easily heard and appreciated by some, but for most there would be no sonic difference between the two models, even when the voltage drop is adjusted.  This is because the voltage drop doesn't have much bearing on the sound of the amplifier at normal listening levels.  Voltage drop affects power, which affects distortion at higher volumes so unless you have things cranked loud, it's very difficult to hear what happens in casual setups.

This is why I released the JR, and kept the original on the back burner.  I wan't sure at the time why it was affecting my vinyl rig, I wasn't sure that Father Murphy wasn't jacking with me, so every few weeks I would try again.

Recently I figured out a way to eliminate half of the parts inside the original.  No more capacitors, no relay, and while it has less adjustability, it no longer broadcasts any noise or hum that my phono cartridge can pick up, and is definitely safer as the grid current has been reduced to well below safe levels ensuring a long life for the 854, just like in the JR.

I am still working on it, but as the unit keeps improving it gets more and more simple.  The less parts there are, the more difficult it is to design, so this one is taking some time.  And, again, once I have it completely perfect, I may well just say screw it and never sell one simply because so many people may not hear any change with the adjustable voltage drop.  Doubtful, but it's a possibility.  One thing I do enjoy about being able to increase the voltage drop is that it can compensate for high line voltage and keep your amp's output tubes biased well within the green zone.  Another thing I enjoy about it, is that at lower levels and evening listening sessions, I will increase the voltage drop which reduces the amplifiers power and gain while increasing harmonics so you get a richer sound.

The ideal would be that the original ends up looking like the JR inside, except for the bias supply, and extra pot, the extra transformer would be unseen inside the potted power transformer case.

The original is a low priority design that I'm leaving to spontaneity.  We'll just see what happens as I keep deleting parts and improving it's operation.

Steve
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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #185 - Yesterday at 20:15:46
 
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Posted by: Steve Deckert      Posted on: Today at 11:49:31

UPDATE 4/09/26...

...is is because the voltage drop doesn't have much bearing on the sound of the amplifier at normal listening levels.  Voltage drop affects power, which affects distortion at higher volumes so unless you have things cranked loud, it's very difficult to hear what happens in casual setups...


That is nice to hear that in such plain language. I'm sure you know there are different tribes out there with different ideas about rectifiers. One tribe says rectifiers can't matter because they never see the audio signal, which is ridiculous prima facie. Another says the only thing that matters is the voltage drop, and that sounds kinda sorta reasonable, except it is totally at odds with virtually everyone's actual listening experience. Rectifiers matter a lot, and external rectifiers are the next (final?) frontier. My (non-Decware) external rectifier has made a massive improvement to my listening experience, and plenty of other people have a similar experience with the DGR. Whether or not the full-up DGR becomes a thing I think it is great that you're making a product like this.


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Re: Decware's DynaGrid Rectifier design log
Reply #186 - Yesterday at 20:48:36
 
Thank you for that report Steve. It is interesting that the adjusted differences are likely to only be heard at high volumes. I rarely if ever really listen at high volumes so I would likely not be tempted by the "Original" and just bask in my satisfaction with the "Junior!"
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