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Cryotone vs WE 300B
05/17/24 at 14:29:09
I'm wondering if, among people have tried both, there is a strong consensus among owners about whether they prefer the (new production) WE 300B or the Cryotone 300B? In the reviews I've seen, it seems like the edge always goes to the cryotones, which I found surprising given that the amp was designed for the WE.

Would love to hear whether people have any strong or nuanced opinions about this if they've tried both? I have the 300B and they're nice, but at these prices tube rolling and having both sets on hand for comparison gets pretty pricey.

Also, for those that prefer the Cryotones -- did you find the rest of the cryotone tube complement for the SEWE300B essential, or is it really just the cryotone 300B tubes that matter?
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Re: Cryotone vs WE 300B
Reply #1 - 05/20/24 at 20:15:09
Hey mk60,

Since no one else has replied.....might as well throw in my two cents.  

Several weeks ago Steve Deckert said "I am pleased to announce that we have our own 300B tube now. It comes as a result of over a year of testing. It is my pick/favorite sound of my collection. All of the tubes I've been testing are great with the WE300B leading the way followed by the Cryotone, but the WE300B is super transparent and neutral, and the Cyrotone is bold and dynamic. Both are also pricey. I wanted something a bit more laid back with a more addictive midrange and  less expensive. These are my ear candy 300B tubes. They make you want to listen because they have just the right color."  

Steve favors the Western Electric due to its transparency and neutrality.  Interestingly, that's pretty much the way I described the difference between Western Electric 300Bs and Sophia Electric Classic 300Bs a year or so ago.  Both are fantastic tubes, but the WE's transparency very well may place it as the tube to beat among the high dollar 300B contenders.  That's the way I hear it, for what it's worth.  
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Re: Cryotone vs WE 300B
Reply #2 - Today at 09:47:04
Doug, if you want to try something different and like the Classic 300B from Sophia Electric somewhat, I just did a shoot out between well seasoned pairs of the Classic 300B and the Shuguang Black Treasure 300B-Z and the 300B-Z were easily far better though a bit similar: the 300B were more relaxed and yet vivid in detail, make the Classic 300B sound edgy. I have fallen in love with the Black Treasures and have two back up pairs now, and the Classic 300B will be back ups to those. I sold my Cryotone 300B-WC as I preferred the Black Treasures, and I have not heard the Western Electric. . . probably won't.
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Re: Cryotone vs WE 300B
Reply #3 - Today at 16:08:25
Hi Lon. What version of the Black Treasure tubes do you have? I believe that the current version has what looks like a grouping of three upside down As without overt Chinese lettering and the prior version had no upside down As but had Chinese lettering. I would love to see a picture of your tube. Thanks for all of your impressions!
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