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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #950 - 05/29/25 at 22:57:58
 
I make no secret of my preference for Leonard Bernstein as a Haydn conductor, but that doesn't mean there aren't other worthwhile performances. At or near the top of that list is Colin Davis.



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He leans more to the lush and lovely rather than the dramatic and is ably abetted by the Concertgebouw Orchestra and fine analog sound from the Philips engineers.
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Reply #951 - 05/30/25 at 21:37:05
 
Schoenberg's opera (technically a monodrama because there is only a single actress onstage) is pretty much the outer edge of my comfort zone with atonal/expressionistic music. It is a weird story (it would have to be) about a woman looking for her lover (spoiler alert) and then finding she killed him. For me, the music requires not just active listening but concentration for about half an hour because it is very atmospheric but really only makes sense on a moment by moment basis.



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The Sinopoli/Staatskapelle box of Second Viennese School "classics" is pretty excellent, for what it is.
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Reply #952 - 05/31/25 at 15:02:59
 
Next page, next Beethoven symphony, No. 8.



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I don't know why the Dohnányi/Cleveland/Telarc Beethoven symphonies aren't considered a classic. They are a great combination of old school profundity and new school danceability in demonstration quality sound. And the 8th is one of the best.
 
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Reply #953 - 06/01/25 at 02:52:53
 
My other favorite expressionistic opera: Bartok's Bluebeard's Castle. This is a little less weird, and more tonal than Schoenberg, but it is still out there.



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I'm surprised by how many recordings there are of this piece, but two of the first are still the best. YMMV. This one by Kertez on London and Dorati on Mercury. Both have great playing, great singing and great sound.

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Reply #954 - 06/02/25 at 17:31:06
 
Schubert's early symphonies, like Mozart's, are not great music. But since Schubert, also like Mozart, could not write anything that isn't beautiful, they are certainly good music.



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Reply #955 - 06/03/25 at 02:59:47
 
I was always told a piano is a percussion instrument because a hammer hits the strings but a harpsichord is a string instrument because the strings are plucked. Certainly the categorization of these instruments is both arbitrary and academic, but it does explain a lot about how they sound. Esp. the lautenwerck or lute-harpsichord which uses gut strings and sure sounds like some kind of guitar or lute to me.



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Reply #956 - 06/06/25 at 15:06:33
 
Bach's Brandenburg Concertos are some of the most popular and recognizable tunes ever written. But beneath the catchy tunes there is a whole world of musical complexity that rewards careful listening.



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Reply #957 - 06/08/25 at 17:51:38
 
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Reply #958 - 06/09/25 at 18:06:06
 
That's a great album Geno. Casadesus and Szell were very much the odd couple (Szell the (in)famous perfectionist is Felix in this analogy) but they sure made it work. And those two concertos are some of the very best of anything Mozart wrote.



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Only possible downside is the recording isn't great, like a lot of Columbia/CBS/Sony recordings of that vintage.
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Reply #959 - 06/10/25 at 01:14:06
 
Mo Mozart. On the short list of his greatest accomplishments are the serenades for winds. They are almost unique in the repertoire, as well as a unique canvas for Mozart's genius.



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Reply #960 - 06/10/25 at 21:58:09
 
Sorry I haven't responded, CA.  I have no computer at home these days, and still cannot respond on my iphone - I can on certain threads, but the music threads are too bogged down.

I watched Amadeus a few days ago, and have been on a Mozart spree...
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Reply #961 - 06/11/25 at 14:52:32
 
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...I watched Amadeus a few days ago, and have been on a Mozart spree...


Nothing wrong with that. I've been on a bit of a Mozart bender myself. The slow movement from the K.467 piano concerto is one of the most recognizable, to say nothing of the most beautiful, tunes ever written. It became famous from its appearance in the Swedish film Elvira Madigan, about which I know nothing except that Geza Anda's recording on DG was used for the sound track.



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Anda and the Camerata Academica Des Salzburger Mozarteum don't get a lot of critical respect, but I think they are excellent. More concerned with musical expression than technical perfection.
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Reply #962 - 06/12/25 at 18:43:26
 
Ronald Brautigam's recording of Schubert's last two piano sonatas is not great because he plays a fortepiano similar to the one Schubert himself owned. It is great because he exploits the differences between a fortepiano and a modern pianoforte to give us an entirely different view into these masterpieces. The action on the fortepiano (literally translated: loud-soft) is faster and the sound more transparent than a modern concert grand. So the chords are more transparent and the passage work quicker and more delicate. The lyricism and pathos are both there, but perhaps in different proportions than in a more "modern" performance.



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Reply #963 - 06/13/25 at 18:59:57
 
Mahler was both a musical genius and a bit of a manic-depressive emotional wreck. And all that through in the music that is by turns heroic, beautiful, spooky or sad. But always technically innovative and sophisticated. So there are generally two ways to approach the symphonies: to wallow in the emotional excess or to emphasize the orchestration and technique. Giuseppe Sinopoli leans into the latter for his Mahler cycle with the Philharmonia Orchestra.



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A lot of critics are cool to Sinopoli's cool, intellectual approach to the 6th symphony, and I admit that it isn't my favorite. But it is beautifully played and recorded and an interesting contrast to the more emotional versions by e.g. Leonard Bernstein.
 
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Reply #964 - 06/15/25 at 18:54:54
 
Mikhail Pletnev's Scarlatti Sonatas on modern piano seem to me an almost perfect combination of Italianate charm and romantic indulgence. Probably not at all what Scarlatti himself had in mind, but that's not the point.



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Reply #965 - 06/16/25 at 23:21:39
 
So for Father’s Day I treated myself to 2 vinyl albums from John Williams. Like I have mentioned in the past…I was so overwhelmed by his Netflix documentary, that I have been listening to more of his work.  This album was amazing to listen to on vinyl.  You can also watch and listen to this score on Netflix.  

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Reply #966 - 06/17/25 at 14:52:43
 
I've been digging the Dvorak Violin Concerto lately. The finale is so good and so catchy I don't understand why it isn't famous.



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Reply #967 - 06/18/25 at 15:28:27
 
Okko Kamu's Sibelius Symphonies with the Lahti Symphony Orchestra have quickly become a favorite of mine. Impressive, individual wind playing and a rhythmic "swing" really make these pieces come alive in a way that moves beyond the usual brooding and atmospheric mood typical for Sibelius.



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Reply #968 - 06/18/25 at 16:04:34
 
Listening to Alfred Brendel today in honor of his life and his wonderful playing of Haydn, Schubert, Mozart, Beethoven.....and a few others as well.  Being a mostly self taught pianist, Brendel is easily admired for that fact alone, but I also very much enjoy his, as fans and critics say, thoughtful playing.  Haydn sonatas are currently spinning and sounding excellent as they always do.
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Reply #969 - 06/18/25 at 18:42:52
 
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Listening to Alfred Brendel today in honor of his life and his wonderful playing of Haydn, Schubert, Mozart, Beethoven.....and a few others as well.


I had not heard he passed. RIP.

My relationship with Brendel has "evolved" over the years. In the early 80s when I first started hording collecting classical recordings he was one of the biggest names in piano playing, and I got to hear him live a few times: in Symphony Hall in Boston and at the Hollywood Bowl. I acquired many of his recordings and thoroughly enjoyed his "intellectual" approach to music. But over the years as I've become familiar with a lot more pianists my taste has moved on a bit. I don't enjoy Brendel any less, there are just many others I enjoy more. Perhaps ironically it is his Liszt that still speaks to me most directly and I was listening to his recording of some of the Hungarian Rhapsodies from the 1960s.



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Reply #970 - 06/20/25 at 04:16:17
 
Jean-Efflam Bavouze's Debussy Complete Works for Piano is 358 minutes of magic. That is all.



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Reply #971 - 06/21/25 at 04:17:18
 
The fates were not kind to America's greatest mid-century pianists. Probably the most talented, William Kapell, died in plane crash just as his career was getting started. The best known, and for decades the best selling classical artist of all time, Van Cliburn, was bludgeoned into early retirement by critics. And my two favorites, Byron Janis and Leon Fleisher, were both hit with neurological issues in their hands. But at least they made recordings.



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Reply #972 - 06/21/25 at 22:01:24
 
A "Lon's Pick" that I hadn't played in a while.



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Playing Bach's Cello Suites on the double bass is fascinating riff on these classics. I only wish Edgar Meyer would record the other 3.
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Reply #973 - 06/23/25 at 03:42:15
 
The Bach Cello Suites were lost to time when a young Pablo Casals found a copy of them in a used bookstore and started to perform them. And the rest is history, for both Casals and the Cello Suites. His interpretation is very different from my favorite, Janos Starker, but it is certainly worth hearing. As Stravinsky said "Casals is of course a great man. He is in favor of peace and plays Bach in the manner of Brahms." But these days I don't think you can get away with playing Brahms with the romantic abandon Casals brings to his Bach.



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Reply #974 - 06/24/25 at 02:29:09
 
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Reply #975 - 06/24/25 at 02:58:53
 
Fredrich Gulda's Beethoven Piano Concertos.



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Reply #976 - 06/25/25 at 15:15:56
 
After a recent Mozart bender I've been binging Schubert's remarkable late piano sonatas.



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Leif Ove Andsnes' (relatively) recent collection of the late Schubert sonatas has catapulted up my favorites list. He has a special way of balancing both the lyricism and heartbreak of Schubert's music that is just spellbinding.

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Reply #977 - 06/26/25 at 00:51:47
 
And back to Mozart. The 6 string quartets dedicated to Haydn are perhaps the pinnacle of classical elegance. And the Suske Quartet plays them with all the elegance one might desire.



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Reply #978 - 06/26/25 at 13:25:57
 
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Reply #979 - 06/26/25 at 18:13:03
 
In my over educated and completely objective opinion Dvorak's Cello Concerto is one of the greatest pieces of music ever written. And if you want a performance of it there is Janos Starker's on Mercury, and all the rest. YMMV. But among the best of the rest is  Pierre Fournier and George Szell with the Berlin Philharmonic. Fournier was a great musician who happened to play the cello, and George Szell (who also conducted the famous recording with Pablo Casals) was a great conductor who was at his greatest conducting Dvorak. So no surprise this recording is a winner.



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Reply #980 - 06/27/25 at 03:07:26
 
Back to the Schubert piano binge. The slow movement of the D. 959 sonata approaches the heartbreak of Winterreise. And Maurizio Pollini plumbs the depths.



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #981 - 06/27/25 at 17:40:55
 
Wagner's Ring is a gigantic accomplishment, almost equal to the ego of the man who composed it. But it is a lot. The last two installments of the cycle, Siegfried and Götterdämmerung are about 3 times longer then they need to be. But the first two, Rheingold and Walkure, are both pretty tight packages, and full of (relatively) interesting action and tunes. So if anyone were to ask me how to get started on the Ring, or Wagner in general, I'd say start at the beginning. Or, if you really want to fast track your Wagner start with this recording:  



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Walkure is both great music and user friendly (for a Wagner opera). And Nilsson, Vickers and London are a dream team of singers. Leinsdorf and the London symphony are also very good. So, I think it is fair to say if you don't like this, Wagner probably isn't for you.

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Reply #982 - Yesterday at 02:02:25
 
I guess Janacek and Scriabin are considered "modern" music even though it is like a hundred years old. Some of this is adventurous but none of it is unpleasant.



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As expected both Stephen Hough's playing and Hyperion's recording are outstanding.
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Reply #983 - Today at 23:12:15
 
Beethoven's transcendental late period started pretty close to when he composition of his last two cello sonatas. Pablo Casals' performance is more romantic than is usual today, but still has plenty of transcendence.



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The sound on these 1930s recordings is pretty good.
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