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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #650 - 10/15/24 at 15:09:35
 
More Ancerl. One of my favorite recordings of one of my desert island pieces:



DSD rip from Tower Japan SACD.

Listening to this Mahler 9 is a staggering experience, both from the virtuosity of the playing and the emotional range of the interpretation.
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Reply #651 - 10/15/24 at 15:22:00
 
New page, next Beethoven Symphony, No. 2



On CD from the Ozawa/German Masters Box

I feel like the 2nd is greatly underappreciated, and I like it better than the much more famous symphony that follows. I can't say I have a single favorite performance, but Seiji Ozawa and the Saito Kinen Orchestra are certainly one of my favs. They do a great job balancing the dance and drama aspects of the piece, esp. in the quicksilver opening movement.
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Reply #652 - 10/16/24 at 20:28:02
 
I think today will be a 20th Century day. I started with one of Bartok's lesser known works, the ballet The Wooden Prince.



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This is a fairly early work by Bartok and is neither dissonant nor especially beautiful, in the conventional sense of memorable melodies. I would call it abstract, and, like a lot of Bartok, it requires active listening and rewards the active listener with some excellent and very interesting music.
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Reply #653 - 10/17/24 at 01:48:31
 
Stravinsky's Opera/Oratorio Oedipus Rex was one of the first pieces he wrote in his "neo-classical" phase. I feel like neo-classical was a return to the order and elegance of the 18th century after the somewhat unruly way music evolved at the beginning of the 20th. Of course Stravinsky himself was a big part of that unruliness.



On CD.

I feel like Karel Ancerl, along with Leonard Bernstein, were the greatest Stravinsky conductors who ever lived in spite (or perhaps because) of recording a limited repertoire. Certainly Ancerl's Oedipus runs up the score on Stravinsky's own recordings.
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Reply #654 - 10/17/24 at 19:34:12
 
TIL about Anne Queffelec. She is a French pianist with a fabulous technique and a very French sound: quick, transparent and light on the keys. I heard her Scarlatti then learned her complete recordings are available on Erato, so I bought them. She does a great job with a wide variety of music, from Scarlatti to Liszt to Erik Satie. Highly recommended.



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Reply #655 - 10/17/24 at 21:55:58
 
Listening to this one at work  from Arthur Rubenstein on my new iPhone 16 Pro Max that I picked up last night.  I forgot my camera adapter at home….so I couldn’t use my Dragonfly.  The speakers on the new phone are  definitely better than my old one from 7 years ago.  


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Reply #656 - 10/18/24 at 03:42:50
 
One more Stravinsky, Firebird with my hometown team the LA Philharmonic and Gustavo Dudamel (recently bailed for NY).



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Reply #657 - 10/18/24 at 21:46:59
 
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Posted by: Dominick      Posted on: Yesterday at 13:55:58

Listening to this one at work  from Arthur Rubenstein...


Interesting. I'm a big fan of Brahms but never really warmed up to his concertos. Of all of them (2 piano, violin and double) I like the violin concerto the best. Everyone has recorded them (like everyone records the piano concertos) and you can make the case you should choose your recording by the orchestra part, not so much the soloist.



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But I like Arthur Grumiaux and orchestra, lead by Sir Coloin Davis is perfectly fine.
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Reply #658 - 10/19/24 at 01:27:20
 
Agreed….I am a big fan of  Brahms as well.  I didn’t the love the piano concerto on this album as much as the violin by comparison.  I figured I would give it a try, but it was a bit underwhelming.  

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Reply #659 - 10/19/24 at 03:20:14
 
Brahms that I really like: Songs Without Words aka lieder arranged for cello and piano played by Mischa Maisky.



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How good is your midrange? Listen to this disc and if you aren't swept away by the abject beauty of the music you either A) don't like the cello B) need to take a hard look at your system or C) should consider consulting an endocrinologist. JMO/YMMV.
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Reply #660 - 10/19/24 at 19:12:51
 
After listening to the Reiner/Chicago Rossini disc a few days ago I decided to spin up a few more of my favs. Starting with Marche Slave and Ruslan and Ludmila from the Pictures at an Exhibition disc.



Marche Slave is a high school band staple, and a bit nostalgic for yours truly while Ruslan is one of the great virtuoso show pieces and you can almost smell the rosin burning on the bows as the strings dig into the demi-semiquavers.

And then there is the Polka and Fugue from Schwanda the Bigpiper.



This might be more of a guilty pleasure because many of my "serious musician" friends roll their eyes when I mention it, but I love it. Esp. the great fugal finale where the legendary Chicago brass blow the roof off the joint.

Both DSD rips from the Living Stereo SACDs

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Reply #661 - 10/20/24 at 16:41:36
 
Carlo Maria Giulini's La Mer from the Warner Complete Debussy.



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Reply #662 - 10/21/24 at 20:38:41
 
Après un rêve. An hour plus of, in a word, dreamy French songs arranged for cello and piano.



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Reply #663 - 10/23/24 at 19:50:49
 
Erik Satie's Gymnopedies have become famous as the soundtrack for ennui in movies and TV, even if the composer himself is not that well known. But he wrote a bunch of other piano music, some of it mellow or even melancholic, some more up tempo but all of it sounds like Satie.



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Reply #664 - 10/24/24 at 19:54:27
 
Before the Pathetique or the epic Op. 18 string quartets there was what I consider Beethoven's first unquestionable masterpiece: the Opus 10 Piano Sonatas. They have all the drama and energy you would expect from top shelf Beethoven and just enough classical elegance to make it interesting.



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Konstantin Lifschitz is relatively new to me. I first found him through his Bach, and his Beethoven is excellent, YMMV. Rhythmically and technically precise, as you might expect from a Bach specialist, but with the wide emotional pallet that Beethoven requires. On the very short list of my favorite contemporary pianists.
   
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Reply #665 - 10/26/24 at 01:14:21
 
Like pretty much everything in the Mehta/LA Phil box Dvorak's 8th sounds great.



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Reply #666 - 10/26/24 at 14:29:51
 
Decided to listen to some early morning music and landed on this one from Liszt


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Reply #667 - 10/26/24 at 18:45:30
 
Quote:
Posted by: Dominick      Posted on: Today at 06:29:51

...Liszt...


Liszt was huge: huge talent, huge personality and one of the true revolutionaries in the history of Western Art Music. But there were also a bunch of "lesser Liszts" who were also talented composers and performers, they just weren't Liszt. With that in mind, I give you Charles-Valentin Alkan.



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Reply #668 - 10/26/24 at 20:01:01
 
Classical SACD sale that may be of interest:

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Reply #669 - 10/26/24 at 20:43:38
 
Thanks Lon. I've basically stopped buying SACDs, but that looks interesting.
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Reply #670 - 10/28/24 at 17:12:35
 
One would think the slightly dark, mellow sound of the cello would be a perfect match to Sibelius' slightly dark and mellow style. And that is correct. Sibelius didn't write a lot of music for cello unfortunately but what he did write, a lot of it when he was a student, is very nice.



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Reply #671 - 10/29/24 at 22:18:52
 
Whenever I come back to Haydn's music after an absence I'm amazed how good it is. It is tuneful and elegant but also sophisticated and dramatic, although it wears the sophistication lightly.



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Reply #672 - 10/31/24 at 19:19:09
 
In honor of the Dodgers winning the World Series I give you Handel's Water Music in a scintillating performance by the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra.



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Originally written for King George I's procession on the Thames it would not be out of place in a 21st century civic victory parade. YMMV.
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Reply #673 - 10/31/24 at 22:53:01
 
It wouldn't be Halloween without Bach's Toccata and Fugue in d minor.



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This is an early digital recording that was a common demo disc back in the day. Interestingly I've heard the organ at the First Congregational Church in LA (just a block or so from the MacArthur Park, FWIW) and it is an overwhelming experience. And hearing the CD on high dollar, high wattage stereos was also an impressively tactile experience. But listening to it on my Decware system (5 watts, single 6 1/2" driver stand mounted monitors) is an impressive musical experience. Anything it lacks in hydrodynamic punch it more than makes up for by bringing gorgeous tonal and musical details to life.



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Reply #674 - 11/01/24 at 22:51:58
 
A lot of people consider the 50s and 60s the golden age of American Orchestras. How much of this is because the great orchestras of Europe were rebuilding (literally and figuratively) from the war is an interesting question, but that doesn't change the fact the the top US orchestras boasted many of the finest players in the world. And those players also played chamber music.



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This is a recent box of recordings from the 50s and 60s that I had no idea even existed. But the principle players from the Philadelphia Orchestra are all legends, and it is no surprise the music, from Mozart and Beethoven to Schonberg and Stravinsky is amazing.
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Reply #675 - 11/03/24 at 00:21:04
 
Mozart wrote some of the most beautiful music ever written. And nothing he wrote is more beautiful than his setting of the medieval hymn, Ave Verum Corpus, written shortly before his death.



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Reply #676 - 11/03/24 at 21:48:38
 
The last orchestral music Dvorak wrote was a series of four "symphonic poems" (I'd call them tone poems) and they are fantastic (almost literally). They are based on Czech fairy tales, but are a little less obviously "Czech" in character than much of his other work.



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Reply #677 - 11/04/24 at 03:48:45
 
Karl Bohm was both an enthusiastic supporter of National Socialism and one of the great Mozart Conductors of the 20th century. His (overly) complete Mozart Symphonies with the Berlin Philharmonic is one of the highlights of the  Deutsche Grammophon catalog.



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Reply #678 - 11/05/24 at 22:43:58
 
Angela Hewitt's Bach has been on my to-do list for while, but I didn't get around to it until today. I was missing out, it is really good.



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Reply #679 - 11/07/24 at 15:55:46
 
There are (at least) a couple of ways of looking at Bach's Well Tempered Clavier, and they are not mutually exclusive. One is that it is the ultimate in academic exercises: at set of preludes and fugues written in every major and minor key, twice, based almost as much on math as music. The other is that it is the ultimate interpretive tabula rasa and the performer is able to unleash her or his musical imagination almost unfettered. My desert island WTC (also the my first post in this thread) is Fredrich Gulda who goes all in on mathematical precision with results that I think are amazing, maybe because I'm a "math guy." But there are many other, very convincing, interpretations out there from Glen Gould to Andreas Schiff to Sviatoslav Richter just to name a few. And now I add Angela Hewitt to the short list of truly great Well Tempereds, YMMV.



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #680 - 11/16/24 at 22:11:17
 
Why is Leonard Bernstein such a great Mahler conductor? I think it is because he is as passionate about the quiet moments and tiny details as he is about the shattering climaxes. And when it is time for a shattering climax no one does it better.



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #681 - 11/18/24 at 00:41:07
 
Sadly it’s been a while since I’ve posted.  Just recently acquired a dozen free classical/opera vinyl albums and another chunk of classical CD’s while trick or treating with my daughter.  Several were from the Deutsche Grammaphon  label.  

So while I was at work, I decided to stream this favorite that’s took its album art cover from Van Gough’s Starry Night.  

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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #682 - 11/18/24 at 18:08:30
 
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...Just recently acquired a dozen free classical/opera vinyl albums and another chunk of classical CD’s while trick or treating with my daughter...


Very cool, looking forward to your impressions.

As for Liszt, is there anyone better for straightup piano pyrotechnics? How about Liszt riffing on Beethoven:



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #683 - 11/18/24 at 19:06:11
 
I've had this on cds for about twenty years, and my father even longer--spent many an hour listening to these together, fantastic material and performances.

It's still hard for me to listen to a lot of classical music that we listened to together. . .my father was the most amazing person I've ever known, and we had become so so close.  But I have been listening to some we didn't listen to a lot together, and isolating some box sets to sell off. . . so soon I'll tackle some Beethoven, our most favorite material to share, especially the solo, duo, trio, quartet and smaller ensemble pieces. (Neither of us were as into symphonies, though his favorite symphonies were Beethoven's and Mozart's).
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #684 - 11/18/24 at 20:51:38
 
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As for Liszt, is there anyone better for straightup piano pyrotechnics? How about Liszt riffing on Beethoven:


Cool….I’ll have to search that one up and give it a listen.  Tonight going to start with a Puccini box set from time life.  I’ll post my impressions a bit later on.
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #685 - 11/18/24 at 23:08:37
 
One more Liszt. I've posted this recording before, but if you care about Liszt, or piano playing you really should hear it.



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Listening to Georges Cziffra play Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies is like a day at the circus: you'll laugh, you'll cry and you're never entirely sure what just happened. He is both an authentic fire-breathing piano virtuoso, of a kind they don't make any more and an authentic Hungarian Romani, born to play Liszt's gypsy music. This isn't piano playing for every day, but once and a while nothing else will do.
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #686 - 11/18/24 at 23:19:12
 
A night at the opera.  Currently listening to the Time Life Collection “ The Metropolitan Centennial Collection “Great Opera Puccini”.  Attached is a letter from the music director James Levine.  

At first the album sounded a bit thin, but then as operas normally do….it opened up and sounded wonderful.  The vinyl itself is very quiet, almost no pops and clicks.  At times I felt the the dynamic range was a bit limited, but overall a thumbs up.



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #687 - 11/18/24 at 23:34:21
 
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...Tonight going to start with a Puccini box set from time life...


I'm not much of an opera guy, and what I am leans more to the Teutonic than the Italianate. But there are some bits of La Boheme that are too hauntingly, unforgettably beautiful to ignore. The scene where Mimi and Rodolfo meet is what love should always sound like. And then there is the final aria in Act I, O soave fanciulla used to devastating effect in my favorite episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.



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I don't know a lot of La Bohemes, but if there is one out there better than Beecham, Bjorling and de los Angeles it must be very good indeed.
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #688 - 11/20/24 at 02:00:47
 
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I'm not much of an opera guy, and what I am leans more to the Teutonic than the Italianate. But there are some bits of La Boheme that are too hauntingly, unforgettably beautiful to ignore. The scene where Mimi and Rodolfo meet is what love should always sound like. And then there is the final aria in Act I, O soave fanciulla used to devastating effect in my favorite episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.


The Time Life booklet inside gives you the full score with the translation…which was a nice touch.  

Tonight I’m listening to this LP on Deutsche Grammaphon.  A very clean album and way more dynamic than Time Life series I listened to last night. While I enjoyed it, I didn’t love it.  Just not as engaging for me….but that more of a personal preference, but YMMV,  etc etc.

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Reply #689 - 11/20/24 at 02:50:58
 
Another album from my trick or treating connection….this one I really enjoyed.  I am a big Rachmaninov fan, so this LP was no surprise that kept me engaged.  Very clean pressing and overall a great album….definitely a keeper!

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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #690 - 11/20/24 at 16:02:29
 
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Tonight I’m listening to this LP on Deutsche Grammaphon.  A very clean album and way more dynamic than Time Life series I listened to last night. While I enjoyed it, I didn’t love it.  Just not as engaging for me….


Interesting. So Karl Bohm worked very closely with Richard Strauss for many years. He conducted several first performances and had pieces dedicated to him by Strauss. But I'm not crazy about his Strauss conducting, at least of the orchestral music. To me he plays the music too "straight" and doesn't really play all the sweeping romantic gestures that make Strauss so much fun. So it is possible you're not liking the performance rather than the music. In fact I like almost anyone conducting Strauss better than Bohm, von Karajan and Rudolf Kempe are two standard recommendations as is this album with George Szell and the Cleveland Symphony.



On CD.

This has been a classic since it was first released in the early 70s and if you're not engaged then it is safe to say Strauss probably isn't for you. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #691 - 11/20/24 at 23:28:09
 
Rachmaninov's symphonies and concertos are great. But I actually prefer is smaller scale stuff, like the Preludes.



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Reply #692 - 11/21/24 at 22:36:12
 
Recent acquisition: the piano music of Hector Villa-Lobos. Generally not the same Villa-Lobos as the Bachianas Brasileiras or the Choros to my ears, but much more in the 20th century virtuoso piano tradition of Debussy and Ravel. YMMV.



Marc-André Hamelin has virtuosity to burn and seems to toss off the technical demands like child's play.
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Reply #693 - 11/21/24 at 23:05:56
 
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Interesting. So Karl Bohm worked very closely with Richard Strauss for many years. He conducted several first performances and had pieces dedicated to him by Strauss. But I'm not crazy about his Strauss conducting, at least of the orchestral music. To me he plays the music too "straight" and doesn't really play all the sweeping romantic gestures that make Strauss so much fun. So it is possible you're not liking the performance rather than the music. In fact I like almost anyone conducting Strauss better than Bohm, von Karajan and Rudolf Kempe are two standard recommendations as is this album with George Szell and the Cleveland Symphony.


I should have been more clear.  I do enjoy the work of Strauss….esp. Don Quixote, Metamorphosen, and the Violin Concerto in D Minor.  My opinion was definitely more of the performance as opposed to the music itself.  I just wasn’t moved by Bohm….it lacked passion.
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Reply #694 - 11/22/24 at 09:13:31
 
Looking out on the snow on the ground has made me nostalgic. I've been thinking of my Dad a lot lately (Thanksgiving approaching was always a signal to him of the busiest time of year for him on the horizon, and that triggers me) and James posting his listening to this set challenged me to dig it out and see if I am ready to listen to music we shared often again, at last.

I guess I am. I can picture him in robe and sippers with his eyes closed behind his photogray lenses and a cup of coffee in hand, listening deeply. I'm playing the fifth disc, the ninth Symphony, as it is one we least listened to (he missed the choral eleements dearly here, me not so much). The elegant and sensitive engineering here is as much a star to me as the pianism.

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Reply #695 - 11/22/24 at 16:29:14
 
I'm glad you can enjoy some of the music you shared with your dad, Lon. I haven't made it to the 9th yet, but have listened to the 2nd. And it is scintillating. Agree the piano sound is fantastic.



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Reply #696 - 11/22/24 at 19:55:49
 
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...I do enjoy the work of Strauss….esp. Don Quixote, Metamorphosen, and the Violin Concerto in D Minor...


The first two are some my favorites as well. But I did not know and was surprised to learn he wrote a violin concerto, I will put that on the list to check out.

What I do know is he wrote two horn concertos. I wouldn't call them great Strauss, one was written very early in his career and the other very late, but the world doesn't have nearly enough concertos for horn so they are certainly worth a listen. And Strauss' dad was one of the leading horn players in Germany so he knew a little something about the instrument.



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Rudolf Kempe's Dresden Strauss box is essential for anyone who is serious about classical music, and is typically available for a couple bucks a disc. YMMV.
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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #697 - 11/23/24 at 17:56:45
 
Hardcore classical: The Schoenberg Wind Quintet.



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This is one of Schoenberg's first true 12 tone works, as opposed to his earlier stuff that was atonal but not strictly serial. It is out there, sounding more random than unpleasant, and I'm not sure I'm going to put in the work necessary to come to grips with it. But I will give it (at least) one more listen.
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Reply #698 - 11/23/24 at 20:49:51
 
I needed a change from Schoenberg's 12 tone and went to the other end of musical history: The Renaissance Polyphony of Palestrina.



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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #699 - 11/24/24 at 19:54:51
 
Murray Perahia's Bach recordings never disappoint.



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