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Re: Classical Music Thread
Reply #1000 - 07/21/25 at 22:00:42
 
Wow. 1000 posts in 22 months. This has been a lot of fun. And (queue "Ode to Joy") I guess it is serendipity (or the law of large numbers, if you prefer) that for the 1000th post we have Beethoven's Ninth.



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There was a film, The Dead Poet's Society, in the late 80s that was a medium big deal. What I mostly recall was the gorgeous, beautifully burnished performance of The Ninth that was used in the sound track. I was not surprised to learn it was Fritz Reiner's Chicago Symphony performance on RCA Living Stereo. One of the very last recordings he made.
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Reply #1001 - 07/23/25 at 15:13:53
 
Beautiful piano music beautifully played.



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Reply #1002 - 07/24/25 at 20:39:06
 
A blast from the past: Carol Rosenberger on Delos. She made a series of early digital audiophile recordings featuring a Bosendorfer Imperial Concert Grand piano. And 40+ years later they sound really good.



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Reply #1003 - 07/25/25 at 18:35:08
 
Mozart's c minor Wind Serenade is both one of his greatest masterpieces and biggest enigmas. Unlike virtually everything else he wrote he didn't discuss the piece in either letters or his catalog of works. In general a wind serenade would be a light, upbeat piece for background music at court. But this one is intensely dark and brooding.



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Reply #1004 - 07/26/25 at 04:05:06
 
For my money Igor Stravinsky's masterpiece is the Symphony of Psalms. And for that money there are two recordings equal to the glory of the symphony: Leonard Bernstein's in New York and the 60s, and Karel Ancerl's contemporaneous recording in Prague. Both are magnificent, but the Czech Philharmonic Chorus tips the scales in Ancerl's favor.



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Reply #1005 - 07/26/25 at 16:43:36
 
One of my desert island recordings, von Karajan's Mahler 9. Staggering music and performance. And your system needs to be able to play very loud and very soft.



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Reply #1006 - 07/27/25 at 15:37:24
 
Andras Schiff blew up in 80s thanks to his Bach recordings on London. Which were an engaging mix of serious and lyrical, I'd call them lyrically serious. Twentyish years later he rerecorded Bach and it was perhaps even more lyrically serious. His playing and the resonant recordings by ECM invokes a harpsichord, but with all the dynamics and dexterity available on a modern concert grand.



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Reply #1007 - 07/28/25 at 20:43:00
 
It seems like pretty much everyone likes the cello. So a bunch of them playing a mashup up of Villa-Lobos and Bach is going to be good. And when you add Arleen Augér singing the Bachianas Brasileiras No. 5 and Delos' spectacular sound you have an album that is very good indeed.



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Reply #1008 - 07/30/25 at 21:57:08
 
Palestrina may have been born in 1525, although no one really knows. So this may or may not be his 500th birthday, but any day is a good to enjoy his magnificent music.



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Reply #1009 - 07/31/25 at 15:27:48
 
Glenn Gould was both a unique musician and a bit of an eccentric, or as George Szell said after playing a concert with him "that nut is a genius." He didn't like performing live and stopped doing it as soon as he became successful enough to stop it. But he loved the studio where he could control every aspect from the sound to the ambiance, and that makes his recordings, like the English Suites, worth careful listening (on a high resolution system).



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My system is sounding better than ever, and even though I know these performances well I'm still hearing new details of Gould's fabulous technique and subtle intrepretation.
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Reply #1010 - 08/01/25 at 15:45:05
 
J.S. Bach was one of the first great keyboard virtuoso/composers and Sergei Prokofiev one of that last. Prokofiev's 7th Piano Sonata, written at the height of WWII, is both intensely emotional and dazzlingly virtuosic.



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Reply #1011 - 08/02/25 at 17:40:36
 
Brahms' late works are infused with what they call "autumnal melancholy." Whatever it is is on full display in the 2nd String Quintet and the (meltingly lovely) Clarinet Quintet.



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Reply #1012 - 08/03/25 at 01:36:21
 
One of the great keyboard albums of the 21st century. YMMV.



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Reply #1013 - 08/04/25 at 01:06:31
 
And now for something completely different. The Trio Sonatas of Jan Dismas Zelenka, for two oboes, bassoon and continuo. Zelenka is hardly a household name, but he should be much better known and is a bit of a cross between Bach and Handel. So Bandel, or Hach. However you want to label it the music, and the playing of the Ensemble Berlin Prag are scintillating.



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Reply #1014 - 08/04/25 at 05:11:40
 
I’ve been a big fan of Zelenka for a long time.  I have the two multi-CD sets by Trevor Pinnock from many years ago.  I went through a phase of vintage instruments recordings from Hogwood, Gardiner, Pinnock and a few others.  I have a listening session or two or three planned for these sets.

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Reply #1015 - 08/04/25 at 23:18:53
 
That is awesome! I hadn't heard of him until a few years ago when an oboe playing buddy turned me on him. Like most baroque composers he wrote a lot of church music, that I need to dig into. His Mass in D is excellent, with plenty of descant trumpet which is all to the good.



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He is more popular in and around Bohemia, so not surprising the Czech Philharmonic and Chorus have recorded a lot of his stuff. This recording isn't great, but the music is.
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Reply #1016 - 08/05/25 at 15:31:46
 
It isn't a big jump from Zelenka to Bach organ music.



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Reply #1017 - 08/05/25 at 17:58:00
 
Johann Nepomuk Hummel was best known during his lifetime as a keyboard virtuoso, but I think today he is known better for writing the "other" great trumpet concerto, besides Haydn's.



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Reply #1018 - 08/06/25 at 15:00:47
 
Janos Starker recorded the Bach Cello Suites 5 times: in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 80s and 90s. The early digital recording from 1984, on the tiny Sefel label, is pretty rare and my CDs may actually be worth more than I paid for them.



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The recording is more laid back than his famous Mercury recording from the 60s, but the musicianship is equally remarkable.
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Reply #1019 - 08/07/25 at 15:24:13
 
Leonard Bernstein's Mozart with the Vienna Phil is considered "old fashioned" but to me it is "just right."



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Reply #1020 - 08/08/25 at 03:34:21
 
The post-romantic French composers objected to calling their music "impressionistic," I guess because music is better than art or literature (just kidding). But it is hard to deny the similarities between the somewhat dreamy, slightly soft-focus music of e.g. Ravel, Satie and Faure with the paintings of Monet or the poetry of Baudelaire.



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Reply #1021 - 08/09/25 at 20:00:43
 
I often talk about my favorite conductors for various pieces, but the old snark among orchestra musicians is "the conductor's baton is the cheapest instrument in the orchestra." And the (conductorless) Orpheus Chamber Orchestra proves that over and over, for example in this pair of Haydn Symphonies.



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Reply #1022 - 08/10/25 at 04:01:53
 
Long before Beethoven wrote the funeral march for his Eroica Symphony, he wrote one for his 12th Piano Sonata aka Marcia Funebre. To say it is not one of my favorites of his sonatas misses the point, because every Beethoven Piano Sonata is worth knowing well and listening to frequently.



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Reply #1023 - 08/10/25 at 20:46:26
 
Franz Liszt's son in law, Richard Wagner, famously called Beethoven's 7th the "apotheosis of the dance." I've heard a lot of 7ths in my life, and none is more danceable than Leslie Howard's performance of Liszt's own piano arrangement.



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Reply #1024 - 08/11/25 at 00:37:57
 
And then there is the thing-in-itself.

At least up until WWII the Leipzig Gewandhausorchester was Germany's second orchestra, after the Berlin Philharmonic. And based on Franz Konwitschny's Beethoven Seven they may very well have been that into at least the 1960s.



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Reply #1025 - 08/11/25 at 18:54:58
 
It looks like I haven't posted any Bruckner in a while, so give you his epic (even by Bruckner standards) 5th Symphony.



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Reply #1026 - 08/12/25 at 14:56:07
 
Eugene Ormandy has recorded Tchiakovsky's 5th almost as many times as I've listened to it. That is a joke, I believe he has recorded it 6 times, it is one of my favorite pieces and I've listened to it 10x or more times that all the way through, and many many more times if you count just bits and pieces. His final recording was made after he retired as the long time music director of the Philadelphia Orchestra was one of the first CDs I bought in the early 80s, but it wasn't a keeper. I've since re-acquired it and on my current system it sounds way more engaging than it did back in the day. The key to Tchiak 5 is to balance the massive brass parts with the dance music played by the strings and the woodwinds, and this performance does that masterfully.



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Reply #1027 - 08/13/25 at 15:03:05
 
George Szell was Hungarian, but considered as specialist in Czech music. I think that is half right, lose the "Czech" and it is closer to the truth, but whatever. The point is his Dvorak recordings with the Cleveland Orchestra have been references for well over half a century. I find his interpretation of the 8th a little darker and more dramatic than the norm, which is not a criticism in any way.



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Reply #1028 - 08/14/25 at 16:50:55
 
Using Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra to demo your system certainly  a cliché, and for good reason. It is gorgeous music that is loud, soft, low and high all within the first 5 minutes.



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I have a bunch of different recordings that are great in their own ways, but Herbert von Karajan's analog Berlin Philharmonic recording from the early 70s has a special glow about it.

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Reply #1029 - 08/16/25 at 20:05:31
 
Rene Leibowitz recorded a bunch of the standard repertoire for Readers Digest. Recordings that were often available in e.g. the supermarket and not typically taken seriously by the cognoscenti. But the thing is, they are great recordings usually made by the RCA Living Stereo crew, and the Schubert Great C Major with the Royal Philharmonic is no exception.



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Reply #1030 - 08/17/25 at 21:55:20
 
On the cusp of the transition from late romantic to early modern:  Schönberg's Transfigured Night and Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy.  The LA Phil sounds glorious in classic late 60s Decca analog sound.



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Reply #1031 - 08/17/25 at 22:01:48
 
Ein Heldenleben is one of Richard Strauss' most popular works, but in the opinion of myself, and many others it is about twice as long as it needs to be. It is in 6 parts, the first, second and forth of which are great. The third would be better if it were cut in half and the last two are completely superfluous. YMMV



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Reply #1032 - 08/19/25 at 20:47:02
 
I've know by "best musical friend" for over 50 years, and we've been going back and forth about Stravinsky's Rite of Spring for almost that long. It is his favorite piece of music, and I just don't like it, while fully acknowledging its rightful place in musical history. But, to keep myself honest I listen to it occasionally, just to see if I'm warming up to it at all. And the answer is, maybe. I still can't say I like it, but I find it less annoying than I have in the past.



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If you're going to listen to Rite of Spring, you might as well listen to the best. Which is Leonard Bernstein's New York recording from the late 50s. YMMV.
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Reply #1033 - 08/21/25 at 00:50:39
 
Serious music lends itself to what I'll call "intellectual analysis." With harmony and counterpoint and voicing and variations and transfigurations of themes there is a lot to dissect and so called serious music criticism is not hurting for projects. But there is also just a catchy tune or a beautiful melody that doesn't need any deeper analysis than a sunset.

Mahler's 3rd Symphony has both: serious musical carpentry and flat out gorgeous music. Which makes sense because it is both very long and written by one of the great musical geniuses of all time.



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Nothing in Seiji Ozawa's Boston Symphony Mahler box is my favorite interpretation or the best recorded. But the Boston Symphony really puts on a show and the interpretations and recordings are good enough.

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Reply #1034 - 08/21/25 at 21:05:11
 
There are different ways to play Mozart's last two symphonies: the "old fashioned" way that tends be lush and emphasize the beautiful, almost vocal, melodies. Or the "modern" way that is fast and transparent and emphasizes the harmonic complexity of the works. Or, there is the "just right" way that Gerard Schwarz and the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra pull off on their Delos recording from the early 80s. It is quick, but never rushed, and the playing is so perfectly in sync that physical sound comes off as both lush and transparent. Which is a good trick.



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Reply #1035 - 08/22/25 at 18:05:21
 
Carl Maria von Weber was about 15 years younger than Beethoven and 10 years older than Schubert. But they all died within a few years of each other. And Beethoven to Weber to Schubert is more or less the progression of classical music from the Classical era into the Romantic, at least in the German speaking lands.

I know Weber because I'm a recovering clarinetist and he was the "other" great composer for the instrument, beside Mozart and Brahms. But most of the world knows him as the inventor of Romantic Opera and the composer of Der Freischütz.



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Reply #1036 - 08/23/25 at 15:21:19
 
Carlos Kleiber was an "interesting" case. His dad was Erich Kleiber who was an important conductor in the the first half of the 20th century. But a lot of people think his biological father was Alban Berg. He was a fantastically gifted conductor but "personal issues" kept him from making many recordings, or holding a steady job. He is one of those musicians about whom it is said "he canceled more concerts than he played."  

When he did make recordings they were a pretty big deal, and he burst on the scene in the mid-70s with what was at the time a fairly revolutionary performance of the warhorse of all warhorses: Beethoven's Fifth.



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The performance is fast, like breakneck period instrument fast before that was a thing, in places. In others it is luxuriously slow. But always superbly detailed, fabulously played, even by Vienna Philharmonic standards and exciting as heck. It is on a lot of people's short list for the preferred performance of a piece that has been performed probably more than any other, although for me it is a little further down the list. YMMV.
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Reply #1037 - 08/25/25 at 22:52:06
 
A long time favorite, Rachmaninov's All Night Vigil, aka Vespers.



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Reply #1038 - 08/26/25 at 11:08:21
 
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Reply #1039 - 08/28/25 at 01:40:47
 
One of my favorite discs. Ferenc Fricsay is one of my all time favorite conductors, and his performance of The Moldau and Háry János suite are just amazing. Dvorak's New World symphony is also justifiably famous, but the piece has never done much for me.



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Reply #1040 - 08/28/25 at 15:19:59
 
I've been listening to some opera lately, which isn't my usual. Starting with Wilhelm Furtwanger's Bayreuth Festival recording of Wagner's Die Meistersinger, from the summer of 1943. Meistersinger is Wagner's longest opera but it sure doesn't feel that way, esp. in Furtwangler's lively conception. The recorded sound is pretty remarkable considering the the source although there are plenty of places where the singers overload the early magnetic tape on which it was recorded.



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Reply #1041 - Today at 03:55:14
 
I posted a little while ago that Gerard Schwartz and the Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra is my favorite recording of Mozart's last two symphonies. They are also my favorite recording of Bach's remarkable Brandenburg Concertos, and for mostly the same reasons. The ensemble sounds, in a word, opulent and the musicianship is just sparkling, esp. the winds. But it is the overall performance that strikes me as exactly what the Brandenburgs should: lively, swinging and danceable in the fast movements, but with plenty of time to luxuriate in Bach's masterful harmony in the slow movements.



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Reply #1042 - Today at 21:44:29
 
Another take on Die Meistersinger. This is overall my first choice: excellent mono sound, beautifully sung and played and Fritz Reiner leads it with his signature blend of passion and precision. It doesn't have the magic of Furtwangler's performance, where the music just floats like a halo around the singers, but it is pretty close and much better sounding.



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