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Skip Verified Member Posts: 34	My Mess :-) 10/24/22 at 21:54:08 Always working on things. The new SE84UFO25/CSP325 sound amazing. I need more room treatments. image upload image uploader
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Geno Seasoned Member Without music, life would be a mistake. Posts: 2155	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #1 - 10/26/22 at 01:53:07 And a very nice mess it is . A man after my own heart - Sansui and Decware! And I owned a pair of Klipsch Fortes for over 30 years. Best, Geno
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Skip Verified Member Posts: 34	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #2 - 10/26/22 at 05:08:50 I love the old Sansui gear. I see you have some as well, Geno . I've got a couple AU505's, 5000X, 2000, 350, and the AU7900/TU5900 in the photo. The AU505 is an amazing little amp, eh? Ah, but after hearing this Decware...I believe I could part with all the solid state stuff Cheers, Skip
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Geno

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Reply #3 - 10/26/22 at 20:20:35

Skip,

I can see that this is a work in progress, and you may have this planned already, but I think the single best thing you can do to improve your sound, is to put a few treatment panels on the ceiling about halfway between you and the speakers.

I recently moved into a home, that the ceiling in the listening room is 8'. Coming from a home where I was used to listening in a room with a vaulted ceiling, the echo in the new room was terrible! I have treated all walls and ceiling with panels, and a rug on the floor. I still may have to add a few more panels, but it sounds very good now.

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Geno

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Reply #4 - 10/27/22 at 01:10:48

Agreeing with Geno, here. Very nice mess.
Many would love to have your mess.

Skip, you already know some room treatments are in your future, but have you thought of just building a couple (or more) of absorbers and setting them around here and there to help find problem areas?

I don't think there's a right or wrong way to start, unless you delay your first step. Just get going.
Take it from one who has a hard time getting going sometimes from overthinking, overplanning, over-researching, etc ... too much.
You have so much to work with.
Take the first step! You won't regret it.

I've had decent luck. Wish the same for you.

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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1070	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #5 - 10/27/22 at 01:59:18 Geno, did you use the same (PI Audio, was it?) acoustic panels on your ceiling?
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Reply #6 - 10/27/22 at 04:15:50

Hi DD.

Yes. They are the only treatment panels I have. I have 12 in my listening room, including two on the ceiling. And I think I could use two more up there too.

All in all, the room sounds very good now. When I first moved in, with large rug down, thick curtains, couch and chair, I used the clap test walking around the room. The echo was as bad as I’ve heard in a room. Thank goodness it is so much better now!

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Geno

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Reply #7 - 10/27/22 at 18:11:34

Thanks, Geno. I'm still chewing on what to do next with my ceiling.

Ladderwork still scares the crap out of me. That is how I broke my arm in three places last February.
I want to go up once, apply something smart and then put the ladder away again!
I wanted to do a herring bone pattern using the mini Sonitus panels, but they are still on backorder until November. Delayed for the third time.
Undecided

Might go with another plan.

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Reply #8 - 10/27/22 at 19:09:53

After listening to a friend’s stereo in his room with a vaulted ceiling, I added four panels on my 8’ ceiling. I used Fire n Sound mineral wool from Home Depot. Lowe’s sells the same thing, but it was more expensive. I covered the batts with some clothe and thumb tacked them to the ceiling. Not the best looking solution, but it works. I’m 6’7” so no ladder involved.

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Skip

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Reply #9 - 10/27/22 at 23:41:34

My room dimentions are 15' X 30' w/ 7'6" ceiling. I built a loft in my barn. Had to go with this ceiling height in order to have enough room on the main floor for my tractor and pick up truck. Geno, it seems you're saying the lower the ceiling, the more the need for treatments. Is that correct?

DD,
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I am in the same club. I take way too long to get moving. Overthinking and overanalyzing. I like that idea of building a couple of absorption panels and moving them around the room.

I don't know if you can see them, but I have two absorption panels on each wall just in front of the speakers @ the first reflection points. Built them with 1 x 4's and insullation panels. I noticed a difference immediately.

Cheers,
Skip

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Reply #10 - 10/29/22 at 15:08:01

Skip,

Yes. Especially true, with your ceiling being lower than 8’. Treat the ceiling first reflection point just like you have done your side walls.

Next, place some diffusion, centered on the wall behind your speakers.

Lastly, how much distance from your listening position to the wall behind it? You prolly need to address that also.

Best,

Geno

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Skip Verified Member Posts: 34	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #11 - 11/27/22 at 00:24:16 Well, got some ceiling panels built and in place. Wow, what a difference it makes. Seems like soundstage (I think that's the right term) is a lot wider. Music is coming from way outside of where the speakers sit. I like it.
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Rivieraranch Seasoned Member Posts: 2132	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #12 - 11/27/22 at 12:58:17 I like that rug near the equipment; it ties the whole room together.
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Skip Verified Member Posts: 34	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #13 - 11/27/22 at 14:27:55 Thanks
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Geno Seasoned Member Without music, life would be a mistake. Posts: 2155	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #14 - 11/27/22 at 23:35:21 Nice, Skip. Very cool!
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MikeinMontana Seasoned Member Posts: 275	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #15 - 11/30/22 at 20:09:32 Nice Skip! I will be attaching our Klipsch Chorus II's when the amp shows up..maybe next summer? How do you like those what looks to be Fortes? I am really looking forward to hook-up day.
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1stwattlife Seasoned Member Posts: 133	Re: My Mess :-) Reply #16 - 04/23/24 at 01:46:03 Oh man! What an amazing space! I jealous of anyone who can treat their ceilings. I have checked, and my landlord is not super into the idea. Awesome setup!
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