Hello, this is my first post, but I've had a Torii MK IV for almost four years, paired with DNA2 speakers, and I love the system. Everyone raves about the SE84UFO25, but I've had trouble wrapping my mind around topping out at 2 watts per channel. I have another set of speakers; Klipsch Forte IIIs, which are rated at 99dB sensitivity. Is the SE84UFO25 that much better than the Torii MK IV, but just different? I've been thinking about finishing off a room in my basement for a listening room, so one amp would be in that system, and the other would be in my living room, which is where the Torii is now. Until the listening room is finished (yet to be started), I would be switching between the two amps on the DNA2s. Will I want to go back to the Torii after hearing the SE84UFO25?

Thanks, Lon. I don't think I mentioned, I also have a ZRock2 on order, with all the fixin's. I ordered that on Black Friday, so that should be here a few months before the SE84UFO25.  I've read through most of the posts on the "thoughts and impressions" thread about the SE84UFO25. A lot talked about how they heard "presences" in the room, and audio halograms, and I fear that I will never hear that, nor have I ever heard it. I don't think there is a room in my house where I can pull the speakers out four to six feet from any wall, per Steve's suggestion, and keep it as a living space. Even in the prospective listening room, I won't have enough room to do that. I tried keeping the DNA2s a couple of feet out from the wall in my living room, and the wife complained. Now, they're only about a foot out. That kind of setup just isn't possible in my living room. After all the raves about the SE84UFO25, I'm definitely keeping the order. My curiosity has definitely been piqued. The Torii really wows me, so I'm sure the SE84UFO25 will be more of an experience. I listen to a lot of classic jazz on the Torii, and some of those recordings from the late '50s and early '60s sound so organic, and beautiful.

My other concern is that, can my ears hear a difference? I have been playing drums for nearly 40 years, in bands, on stage, and in the studio. My hearing isn't what it used to be, lol. I can remember when I was a kid, being able to hear my parents' Zenith TV console's flyback transformer that was downstairs, when walking upstairs by the stairway. I remember trying to describe this to them, but they had no idea of what I was talking about. I wish I had discovered hi fidelity tube amps when I was much younger, and could probably appreciate them even more.