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Barnharty

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Phono Stage Recommendations
01/09/17 at 06:37:35

Hello, I primarily listen to vinyl and right now I'm using a Little Bear T10 Phono preamp but for some reason it has become noisier and noisier, and I've looked up every recommendation on how to fix it, to no avail.

So, I need to get something else. I would really like to get a ZP3 but it's out of my price range right now, and it'll probably be another year before I can save up enough for it. The amplifier I'm using is a Zen Super Select.

I've heard good things about the Lounge Audio LCR and it is at a pretty decent price. Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions about the Lounge? Or any other phono recommendations Less than $600?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Ron

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Re: Phono Stage Recommendations
Reply #1 - 01/09/17 at 10:47:00

Brandon,

We would need to know more about your setup. MM? MC? Cart?

At the end of the day, personally, I wouldn't spend $500 on a phono pre, if you're doing to be spending $1300 in 1 year on the ZP3. The ZP3 is supposed to be the holy grail of transparent phono stages (mine is on the bench right now) -- I sold my Audio Research PH-3 to upgrade.

My brother has a Music Fidelity VLPS (his version is no longer made), it is not bad.

Something like the Emotiva XPS-1 which is $130 right now.
Stepping up a bit would be the Vincent Audio PHO-8 Phono Preamp which is $300.

Have you looked at the classifieds here for a ZP3?

These are simple suggestions, I don't have personal experience with either of the two options I posted. If you provide more information on your setup we might be able to provide a little more direction.

-R

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Barnharty Ex Member	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #2 - 01/09/17 at 13:57:00 Hey Ron, the rest of my setup is a Rega RP3 with an Ortofon 2m Blue and Klipsch Cornwall speakers.
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Ron Seasoned Member Posts: 229	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #3 - 01/09/17 at 15:07:39 Those two that I suggested might be a good option. Pro-Ject has a nice Tube Phono Pre as well. I recommend that you find a local audio shop that has one you can try @ home.
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Re: Phono Stage Recommendations
Reply #4 - 01/09/17 at 17:11:09

If you are going to get the zp3 I would recommend you do what i did.
Get the Emotiva XPS-1 it is on sale right now and it is a very good sounding phono stage way above it's price point and would not hurt your bank account very much.
I was happy with this unit and used it for a couple years until I saved up and finally purchased my ZP3.

https://emotiva.com/products/pres-and-pros/xps-1

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Barnharty Ex Member	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #5 - 01/09/17 at 19:33:41 That's 2 for the Emotiva. What cart were you using with yours? I've read good things about running a Denon 103 with it.
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Ron Seasoned Member Posts: 229	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #6 - 01/09/17 at 20:05:14 I would keep your cart, and see if that fixes your hum issues. I have run a Denon DL-110 HOMC and a Ortofon 2M Bronze. The 2M Bronze is incredible!
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pursuitofnow Seasoned Member Posts: 450	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #7 - 01/09/17 at 21:43:17 I used a cambridge audio azur 640p-s before getting my zp-3 and highly recommend it. I'm using a 2m bronze and it sounded great. Real sleeper of a phono stage.
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SonicSeeker Seasoned Member Listening to the music not the equipment Posts: 433	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #8 - 01/09/17 at 22:43:50 Ortofon 2m black
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Ron Seasoned Member Posts: 229	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #9 - 01/09/17 at 22:46:46 Wow that Ortofon 2M Black is nice! I thought the 2M Bronze was expensive
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Tripwr1964 Seasoned Member Posts: 435	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #10 - 01/10/17 at 01:16:16 With the zp3 i found the 2m blue to be very good match. I got a black after, and couldnt justify the price delta. So id keep that 2m blue and save $$$ for a zp3. Ive had a bunch phono stages (ear, ar, rogue, etc...) and the zp3 is in a league of its own. And dead quite.
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Ron Seasoned Member Posts: 229	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #11 - 01/10/17 at 01:17:19 As with everything in this hobby. There is a point of diminishing returns. :-D
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mark58

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Re: Phono Stage Recommendations
Reply #12 - 01/10/17 at 02:56:49

OK Brandon, this is not an audiophile product but it's what I used when i waited for the ZP3 to be built and as a back up should I need to send the ZP3 back to the mother ship. For $50 there is almost no risk. It did the job and performed way above it's price. Read some reviews on Amazon and here at Sweet Water. I think I bought it at Sweetwater....free S&H and great customer service. Mark.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DeeJayPre?adpos=1t1&creative=169712212488...

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Barnharty Ex Member	Re: Phono Stage Recommendations Reply #13 - 01/10/17 at 06:00:36 You can find the 2m black pretty cheap on eBay. From what I've heard, the seller is completely legit. http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ortofon-2M-Black-MM-Moving-Magnet-Cartridge-incl-Stylus-/3...
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