So I broke out my Pioneer SA-9800 integrated and since I have no other phono stage other than the ones in my 70's japanese TOTL amps I decided to throw in a PioneerDD TT that a buddy gave to me. Low and behold after fiddling with the controls and putting my CSP2 in between the SA-9800 front side and the amp stage inputs (you can do that on the better integrated since they have pre out and amp in) It sound stupidly good for what might amount to junk in most peoples analog world. Hey right now it is all I have to spin vinyl. Broke out my dads jazz records and my rock and roll along with stacks of abandoned LP I've confiscated over the years from friends I had way back. You really appreciate the tone stage on the old Pioneer amp to bring out the bass and treble because without it everything is thin. Don't know what the cart is but I do know the phono stage was well thought of in the SA-9800 but the CSP2 helped the weight and warmth. Looks like I'm finally going to pursue a "real" setup for LP's.

Thanks Lon. I believe a ZP3 is in my near future.