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Moving up from 2 watts
06/11/12 at 18:43:39

I have been thinking for a long time about moving up to a Torii MKIII, the CS84SE has proven the Zen concept and I need more juice. Thinking about selling my ARC SP-11 and using another pre-amp I have for the phono section and then running the Oppo straight into the Torrii. We actully only use two sources now days and as long as I have a phono stage this seems like it would work out. Question for all the Torii MKIII owners, do most of you run straight into the amp or use a pre-amp? I am looking to get back into having the system breath music like it does when I use the little Zen. The amp I am using most of the time now is a NYAL Moscode 300 that George Kaye did a full upgrade on last year. I sounds really good in the system but the overall system doesn't breathe music like a SET based amp system does. Thoughts? Input? This forum has been a wealth of guideance and knowledge and look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Chris

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Re: Moving up from 2 watts
Reply #1 - 06/11/12 at 19:04:11

Well, I think you would be very happy with a Torii. I oscillate between using a preamp and not; now that I have vinyl spinning, I'm using a preamp. Great sound is possible with a preamp, and without.

gopher started a thread asking just this question that Torii owners have contributed to. I'm sure you'll learn a lot:

https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1309964134

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sberger Seasoned Member Offline Posts: 179 oakland	Re: Moving up from 2 watts Reply #2 - 06/12/12 at 00:54:24 Pre amp here. More control in general, particularly at lower volumes. Have no problems whatsoever using the Torii without one but things just sound better with the pre in the chain. By the way it's an Artemis LA-1 for anybody keeping score. In any event you will love the Torii.
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alper_yilmaz Seasoned Member Offline Posts: 349 Istanbul, Turkey	Re: Moving up from 2 watts Reply #3 - 06/12/12 at 14:41:18 I use a CSP in front of my TORII mkII. I used it without a pre for quite a long time and I was very happy. Yet, I recently wanted to see how the 6N2P's would sound on the CSP and when I added it into the signal chain, it was amazing to hear the difference. So, these days, I go with the pre!
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will Seasoned Member Online Posts: 3160	Re: Moving up from 2 watts Reply #4 - 06/12/12 at 23:14:24 I use the MKIII with no pre these days. I used it with a Zstage (which I guess you could call a Pre) a long time, but with Tranquility DAC have not been since it is a little hot voltage-wise with the Zstage. For me, it is only a matter of tastes. No need for the pre stage.
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