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A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
01/25/12 at 12:43:57
 
All the other amps have names. Why not suggest a name for this one? The alpha numeric designation is too cryptic. There is no magic in it.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #1 - 01/26/12 at 00:05:01
 
The SE34 ZENTIGRATED
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #2 - 01/26/12 at 00:18:55
 


The weird thing to me is that Steve made that comment to FireBlade about the amp needing power treatment, and Steve NOT therefore adding that OC2 stage of tube regulation.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #3 - 01/26/12 at 01:39:02
 
I think it is curious, indeed.  I guess he wants to have the product range balanced.  Having sonically updated the Integrated through Lucid Mode and some tweaks, the pricier Mini justifies the extra investment by including tube voltage regulation and rectification.

This means the tube rectification definitely won't be part of the .3 either.  In fact, I think a new product line will be developed soon, with tube regulation and rectification as well as Lucid Mode, and probably some more power through selected output tubes (not EL34).

Further, I bet the reason why Steve is not including regulation this time around means the damage created on the SE34i.2+ by dirty mains may have been compensated somehow through Lucid Mode.  Although unrelated concepts, the end sound may have improved that much. Two birds with one stone (keeping the product line balanced and bringing the integrated up to par on sonic levels)  ...  Brilliant!
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #4 - 01/26/12 at 01:51:14
 
Oh, regarding a name for the Integrated, I thought it had a name: Zen Triode Integrated.

We should suggest a name for the upcoming, next logical step (as described earlier) ...  Zen Super Triode!
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #5 - 01/26/12 at 01:58:35
 
Wait a minute ..  that's an oxymoron: Zen is tops, can't be also super,  so what about: Zen Bi Triode!  ;D
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #6 - 01/26/12 at 03:07:58
 
I actually am not a big fan of the names on these amps, always seems a bit weird and "hypey" to me, so I'll just continue to call it the Integrated.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #7 - 01/26/12 at 03:10:31
 
Fireblade, it's still just speculation. All that we know so far is that there's the Lucid mode in the upcoming Integrated. There still could be tube regulation or tube rectification, I admit without a price increase it seems unlikely, but I'm not comfortable making these sort of assumptions on a few posts from Steve.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #8 - 01/26/12 at 04:01:46
 
I don't know why it wouldn't have tube rectification like the current version does.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #9 - 01/26/12 at 11:02:01
 
I did not know that the SE34i.2+ had tube rectification already (I thought it had SS rectification), my mistake.  

I still think the Lucid Mode plus tweaking (fine-tunning) is about what you can offer at that price.  Otherwise, you would be displacing the Mini Torii (which BTW, is a 2.5 years old design, who nows?).

Lon, of course this is all speculation. Part of the strategy on Steve's part is to promote interest in the new product by building up expectations.  Incomplete information on such a high-tone announcement naturally induces anticipation and speculation.

My 2 cents worth ...



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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #10 - 01/26/12 at 11:59:34
 
Jim, duh, I was confused, having dealt with my SE34 Monoblocks for a fw days I guess, of course it ships with those goshawful Rubys. Smiley I'm still hoping that the new machine will have a voltage regulation stage, that would really be a plus, especially since the person dissing it's "graininess" is Steve himself.

FB, I really hate speculation, having been forced in my work to communicate as exactly as possible, and having been married to a wonderful wife whose mind would never shut off, spinning possibility after possibility etc. into a mosaic of confusion. It really bugs me a bit to speculate about specifications. I'll get over it.

Here's hoping we have some more news soon!
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #11 - 01/26/12 at 13:20:15
 
Maybe Steve will harvest the grain(iness) from the new version.
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Re: A New Name for the Upcoming SE34I.3
Reply #12 - 01/26/12 at 14:15:18
 
I'm sure he'll address it. (Laughed hard at the good pun).

Enough speculation from me!

I'm glad the machine is coming back, it's a great one.
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