I have 3 systems in my house using the zen triode and use them with cd inputs to great advantage but having problems finding a good match with vinyl.  The cd playback has more punch and gain/level and more detail because I can't get enough volume/ gain with two of my turntables that have Denon mc carts (dl 110)high-output MC's.  My rega P3 has a rega elys cart which has more gain, hence more punch but I would like to use my tts with the denon carts.  I don't want to go back to mm carts because I like the sound of the denon and they sound fine with different amps with more power.  I know the solution must be a good match with my phono pre but I don't want to invest in two new & pricey preamps that may be better.  I have tried my Van Alstine super pas 4i, Music hall phono box, Pro-ject phono se, and they don't have enough gain in MM setting and I get humm when I change setting to MC (if they have it)  I have a tubed AES phono that sounds great but only does MM, I have 3 other low-fi solid state preamps that have MC settings but they generally sound like crap and I would rather not haul them out and use them with my zens.  My question is what phono settings or preamps work well with the zen triodes and turntables??  What is the magic bullet for great vinyl sound using the  zen triode???  My speakers are 4 ohm Mission Argonauts, Klipsch KG4's, and Triangle Titus 202, with Omega TS 2 as backups and my other tts are a Systemdek IIX and a linear-tracking mitsubishi.  Any suggestions would be helpful..what are good analogue vinyl set-ups with the zen????  where do I start?? Is there anything I can do without buying pricey new preamps?? thanks

I am using a VPI Scout (upgraded to Scout 2 level) with a Grado Sonata (mm) cartridge and a Magi Phenomena phono preamp and it works fantastic in my system.

The ZP3 is amazing! I love mine.