does a hwk with 2 subs fireing up have equal less or more output than a typical ported design?

yep i do, in fact 2, but i seem to be makeing a strange journey, from sq....to sql to.... spl?
just lovin my bass loud at the moment and wodering if a regular design portedbox would have more output than a hwk? because with the hwk the drivers are not fireing straight into the vehicle, wheras in a typical ported box they are? and i dlike someopinions from you smart guys before i build another box

Well, for pure SPL, a 6th order bandpass box or a simple ported enclosure is king.

The HWK is kind of a special 6th order bandpass with its isobaric air coupling chamber.  It seems to increase the bandwidth of the HWK for a more broad bass reproduction.

For high output and decent (read bearable) SQ, a well designed ported box is the only option.  There are trade offs for SQ vs SPL.  The WO is the only design that has minimum tradeoffs that I have used.

I can not offer my opinions as to what you should do, since the HWK was horrible when I threw it into the boot of my buddies Pontiac 6000.  So much so that I am confused it could sound well anywhere except in large rooms for DJs.

I am also a believer that SQL is not real.  There are SQ systems that play loud, but they are not SPL competitors.  It is just another hype made up by brands to help sell loud pieces of shit.

SO, ask yourself what you really want.  Then come back here.  It sounds to me that you just want to build boxes and try things.  If that is so, throw up your specs for the subs, we will see if we can't design you a loud ported box for you to build.