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slappomatt Ex Member	274B? 03/14/06 at 19:04:32 does anyone know if a valve art 274b will work in a zen "C" ??? also will a 5y3 based rectifier work in a "CS" ? thanks!
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mullman Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #1 - 03/14/06 at 20:42:34 Someone had one of those, or maybe a Sophia? Randy?
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rayd

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Re: 274B?
Reply #2 - 03/14/06 at 21:51:27

I believe this is what you can use in a CS:
274B
5U4
5R4
5AR4
5U4G
5U4GB
GZ32
GZ34
GZ37
CV593?
5V4?

... and possibly the 5Y3 - but I never tried it. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Courtesy of Boead from a past forum:
Rectifier tubes for Zen Select: (Low voltage = mellower, less aggressive) -25v 5Y3 -15v 5R4, 5R4-G 0 Stock - 5U4-G 0 5U4-G, -GA, -GB [G=800ma-max, GA=900ma-max, GB=1000ma-max] +5v GZ32 (Mullards own, 5V4 substitute) +10v 5V4 +10v 5V4-G +10v 5V4-GA +30v 5AR4 / (GZ34) (Higher voltage = Dynamic, more aggressive)

I think Randy still has a Sophia 274B mesh-plate but I think the thread that discussed it is gone :(

How'bouta' a WE 274B? I wann'a try one :D

- Ray

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slappomatt

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Reply #3 - 03/14/06 at 22:12:37

yes i was just looking at that thread awhile back. it looks like the 274b wont work in a "c" or so someone stated. i still dont know about the 5y3 in a "CS" but either way its not that big a deal. I dont have a "c" anymore so thats of little matter to me. just wondering as i didnt remember those combinations being mentioned before.

I just ordered a pair of the valve art 274b tubes for my new Select-EX, I deffinaltly prefer the nos rca tubes that grant gave me along with the ruby. I wanted to try one of the jan centron tubes as well but tubeman is out of stock. ill have to wait on those. does anyone know a decent place to get a mullard GZ32 without selling a car or house?

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rayd Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #4 - 03/14/06 at 22:28:57 [quote author=slappomatt link=1142366672/0#3 date=1142374357]does anyone know a decent place to get a mullard GZ32 without selling a car or house? [/quote] This is the one I have... Lovely tube... http://www.upscaleaudio.com/product.asp?itemid=255&catid=48
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crazy bill the eel killer Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #5 - 03/15/06 at 00:43:30 Hello Slappomat, I'm going by memory as I haven't looked at the scematic in a while, but I believe if you go to the 5y3 you need to change the cathode bias resistor on the SV83 from 100 ohms to 150 ohms. https://www.decware.com/Select/select_ownersmanual.pdf I just remembered. Go to page 11. Bill
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MAC -SteveH Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #6 - 03/16/06 at 00:02:46 I have a pair of NEW Full Music 274b's I'm willing to sell reasonably.
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slappomatt Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #7 - 03/16/06 at 19:26:05 how reasonable? what is the reason you are selling them? i am not familiar with that tube. ???
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Caintuck Randy

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Re: 274B?
Reply #8 - 03/16/06 at 19:49:23

[quote author=mullman link=1142366672/0#1 date=1142368954]Someone had one of those, or maybe a Sophia?

Randy? [/quote]

Yep ..... I have both, actually 3 ..... an early production Valve Art, a Sophia solid plate and a Sophia mesh plate.

According to the spec sheet for a 274B, a Zen Select has too much capacitance to make this rectifier happy. It likes to see a lot less than the 40uf in the Select. Even so, there are quite a few Select owners that have used a 274B with absolutely no problems ..... myself included. It has been stated that the tube life might be shortened in a Select.

As to a Zen C, I don't remember reading anything about how well (or not) this would work ..... ???

The thread that originally discussed this was Rectifier tube insanity .....

Randy

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slappomatt Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #9 - 03/16/06 at 21:55:42 I read a review of the full music 274b and the designer said that the tube likes to see a first cap value of 10uf or less. the reviewer said his amp ( a handmade 2a3 amp) said he changed this 20uf cap for a 6.8uf cap. would that be ok to change in the select? and has anyone tried changing it?
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MAC -SteveH Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #10 - 03/17/06 at 00:03:33 My 274b's are sold.
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slappomatt Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #11 - 03/17/06 at 05:15:16 lol, THAT didnt take long. oh well. y did you sell them if you dont mind me asking?
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MAC -SteveH Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #12 - 03/17/06 at 10:23:34 I don't have a Select anymore. TORII MkII.
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slappomatt Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #13 - 03/17/06 at 13:32:35 AHHHHHHH.... lucky guy, but then maybe luck didnt have anything to do with it well i got the Valve Art 274B last night. and it was late so i only got to listen to it for a little bit. didnt sound bad by any means. but it was just radio on the Dynaco. so ill do some more critical listening hopefully tonight.
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Hotsauce Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #14 - 03/23/06 at 22:53:59 Thanks SteveH. John C.
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MAC -SteveH Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #15 - 03/23/06 at 22:56:29 How do you like them? They are amazing looking, no? ahhhhh - and in mono's too!!!
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Hotsauce Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #16 - 03/24/06 at 21:56:46 Its taken me a day to figure out what exactly I'm hearing different. They give a more pronounced leading edge to sounds, and so they make the amp time much better. It also sounds slightly more agressive. Its fast without sounding dry. John C.
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serenechaos Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #17 - 04/11/06 at 16:15:28 [quote author=rayd link=1142366672/0#2 date=1142373087] How'bouta' a WE 274B? I wann'a try one :D - Ray [/quote] I have one of these I need to put on eBay pretty soon; as soon as I can come up with a digital camera. I'ts an early one, with engraved lettering. Robert
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D in MA Ex Member	Re: 274B? Reply #18 - 04/11/06 at 23:24:53 I have seen true engraved base WE 274B's go for $600!!!!! WoWzers! D
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