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What’s the deal with isolation feet?
Today at 16:00:31
 
I’ve fallen prey to FOMO a couple times over the years and purchased isolation feet without really knowing what I was doing. First was a set of Stack feet. I mounted them to a 2” slab of walnut and rotated it through my simple system. I didn’t really perceive any difference on my tube amps. I’ll pretend I noticed an improvement on my DAC/Streamer, modest at best, but possibly there.

I watched a Jays Iyagi video explaining the science of testing some different feet, ultimately deliberating Tough Nuts to be most effective. I reluctantly bought a set and rotated another slab through my system with the same results. Possibly slightly improved on my streamer, yet modest at best.

I was recently organizing my audio parts boxes and found a set of cheap spring damper feet that came with a garage sale turntable that has long since come and gone. What the heck, I put them under my amp. I immediately noticed a huge improvement in low-mid articulation. Almost unbelievably, I tried this back and forth, in and out, as well as swapping back for the Tough Nuts and Stack platforms. Same results, the cheap springs made a noticeable difference, only with the tube amp.

I went to AI to discuss this, and AI described exactly what i experienced. Damping feet like the expensive ones I purchased may have very minor improvements on electronics and sources, no real effect on a class D like my sub amp, and my tube amps are far too heavy for the Tough Nut or Stack feet to effectively moderate vibrations back into the amp and tubes where it matters most. But the cheap spring feet are right in that sweet spot for weight and damping where the springs depress just enough to “float” the vibrations, like the suspension in your car, I guess.

Anyway, that’s my experience. Anyone else have a similar experience?
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Re: What’s the deal with isolation feet?
Reply #1 - Today at 16:05:04
 
I used three feet, two in the front and one directly under the transformer in the back. For reference, here’s an example of the spring feet I’m talking about: https://www.ebay.com/itm/277873514322?_skw=spring+audio+feet&itmmeta=01KP128AA1B...
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Re: What’s the deal with isolation feet?
Reply #2 - Today at 17:05:43
 
I've used all kinds of isolation feet over the years, I hear improvement, and differences. I really dislike the "spring" feet--resulting sound is smeary and artificial sounding for me in my system. My favorites have been StackAudio AUVA EQ feet, not coupled to a granite or any other type of platform, but directly under the chassis of the component itself. If you have the right "weight" Stack feet things really come together for my tastes. Next favorites are VooDoo Cable Iso-Pods, which are more than 90 percent "there" for me and almost neck to neck with Stack, just a bit brighter, which for me is not a good thing. My other favorites are no longer made, they are Herbie's Audio Lab Iso-Cups with the moss green "balls."

I use isolation feet under all components and the speakers in my main system--makes a cumulative and very positive difference for me. I also use PS Audio PowerBase platforms, and all components are off the floor on a Mapleshade Audio Version 3 audio rack, my digital components are also on maple platforms.
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Re: What’s the deal with isolation feet?
Reply #3 - Today at 17:11:49
 
When you say Stack feet, do you mean the Stack Audio footers, the AUVA EQs? Stack Audio also has the AUVA Platform.

I've found footers do make a significant difference. I recently received the new Stack Audio AUVA Platform. I removed the Stack Audio AUVA EQs from under the Innuos ZENith MK3 and then placed the platform under the ZENith. It was an immediate difference. I preferred the EQs over the Platform.

I then swapped out the Wave Kinetics A10 U8 footers for the AUVA Platform under the Lampizator TRP, and it was different, and I enjoyed both. This allowed me to put the Wave Kinetic footers under the ZENith, which gave me an overall improvement. If I could I would have more Wave Kinetics footers.

The Wave Kinetic footers I've found offer across the board improvement everywhere I've tried them. The Stack Audio AUVA EQs and AUVA Platform seem to be more component specific. I'm going to try the AUVA Platform under my amp next.

Unfortunately, Wave Kinetics no longer makes their footers.

Some footers, like the IsoAcoustics GAIA, I'm not much of a fan of.

What is the floor your system is on? My system is on slab so not bouncy. Suspended floors have issues that spring based systems can resolve that are not much, if any issue for a slab floor.

One thing I've found to be overall true is that to fully optimize your system lots of trial and error is involved. Also, be willing to revisit things that didn't give good results in the past.
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Re: What’s the deal with isolation feet?
Reply #4 - Today at 17:14:06
 
Another observation on the Stack AUVA footers. They come with a thin circle of material that can be placed on top of the footer between the component. Try with and without the thin circle. Some components I didn't notice a difference, others I did.
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