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04/04/26 at 01:42:13
 
Has anyone ever owned or at least heard some DeVore speakers?
Most specifically O/96, the O/Bronze or even the O/Reference?

They seem to have all of the right stuff, 96 db sensitivity, nice looks, great reviews.
Yeah they are expensive, but there is no reason of dying with a bunch of money in the bank?
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Reply #1 - 04/04/26 at 05:50:24
 
These (O/96) have been on my radar for a long time and I’ve been thinking about finally auditioning them at some point this year.
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Reply #2 - 04/04/26 at 14:30:22
 
I've been looking at those for a couple of years now, was hoping to hear some next time I'm visiting my brother in Brooklyn. They get great write ups especially with tube amps.
I'm just not sure they would fit in my living/listening room. The owner says they can work in small rooms, but others have said they sound better pulled out into the room.

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Reply #3 - 04/05/26 at 00:01:43
 
I met John Devore at T.H.E. show last year and he had the O/96 there. I didn’t care for them there, but I’m sure it was the room. I don’t recall what he used to power them. A family member has a pair of O/96’s, powered by Audio Note Ankoru 845 monoblocks and they sound absolutely amazing. It’s been a while since I was over there, but I recall the times I listened to them I always said if they were in my budget, they’d be the speakers of choice for me. Beautiful craftsmanship and sound fantastic. AXPONA is around the corner. Perhaps you can audition them there?
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Reply #4 - 04/05/26 at 16:11:14
 
Nice to see some interest in Devore speakers. I have been following John's work for a very long time, but have never heard them. I do enjoy his youtube posts, don't always agree with everything or like some of the music but have watched every one of his posts and learned alot. His speakers are too far out of my budget (actually could have the 0/96 References but decided to replace a large section of our driveway...) so there's that. Please, if any Decware member has some Devore's please chime in with thoughts and pics. Have a great day and happy listening.
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Reply #5 - 05/08/26 at 16:32:51
 
It looks like I will be going to a dealer next week to audition several pairs of DeVore speakers. Just what I need, yet another pair of speakers!
I may have a speaker addiction.
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Reply #6 - 05/08/26 at 17:13:39
 
Donnie - Speaking for myself, I am really looking forward to reading your comments after auditioning some Devore speakers.
As to the addiction that you mention...you are in a safe space here to openly discuss the addiction and lay it all out. That said, this may be the wrong bunch to expect support financially for you to indulge in your addiction.
I personally enjoy John's youtube videos, some of the music he plays and the order all posts. Looking forward to your impressions. Happy listening, Chris.
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Reply #7 - 05/09/26 at 21:36:26
 
I have the Devore O/96 and I absolutely love them. I took delivery of them in January, and I’m still waiting on the 300B amp I ordered back in 2023, which they were originally purchased to pair with. Right now I’m running them with a Sugden IA4 in the meantime.

I genuinely love what these speakers do with vocals. Human voice reproduction is outstanding, and female vocals in particular are just heavenly through them.

That said, I’m starting to second-guess my original amp plan. I’ve become a little concerned about potential hum issues, and I’m now debating whether I should switch my order to the Anniversary amp instead.

Even though the buying guide suggests the amp can be used with speakers rated 92dB and higher, I’m still unsure if it will be enough headroom or the right match in practice with the O/96.
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Reply #8 - 05/09/26 at 21:46:13
 
T, I understand the concern. I will say this though: I have Decware HR-1 which are about 92 db and I get enough volume and I haven't "run out of steam"--enough power to have headroom. And as far as hum I can play with gain structure and have very little hum close up and none at listening seat, and hum is about the same level as I had with SE84UFO3 Monoblocks with all the Anniversary mods.
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Reply #9 - 05/10/26 at 00:30:24
 
T said:

That said, I’m starting to second-guess my original amp plan. I’ve become a little concerned about potential hum issues, and I’m now debating whether I should switch my order to the Anniversary amp instead.

T, I understand your concern. I spent 12 months trying to resolve the Decware 300B hum issue without success. I purchased every tube, device, and accessory anyone suggested to address hum, but none worked. Ultimately, I sold the amp and returned to my Decware UFO25, which delivers excellent sound quality and no hum beyond 3 feet. With the 300B, hum was clearly audible at 8 feet and even at 16 feet. Music masked it, but between tracks and during very quiet passages, the hum was prominent and unacceptable.

I now realize that some individuals are particularly sensitive to hum, as I am. In my situation, there was no solution. In 2025, twice as many Decware 300B amps were listed for sale on US Audio Mart compared to UFO25 amps. This year, the ratio is even higher. Some sellers, very honestly, mention in their ads that they could not accept the hum.

I rarely mention this, but whenever someone on the forum raises the Decware 300B hum issue as you did, I feel compelled to give a strong warning.

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Reply #10 - 05/10/26 at 01:05:36
 
T, I would say that you are right on the line with the Devores. If you have a concern or sensitivity to hum you may consider going with the UFO 25, the balanced input option of the UFO2.1, or the UFO3 mono’s.

I fully respect Lon’s impressions and hold his input with high regard, but I have experimented with different efficiencies paired with my SEWE300b, and indeed the difference between a 92db speaker and a 97db speaker is within the range of acceptable to unacceptable to me, personally. The Devore’s at 96db efficiency are pretty close to my Lii F15’s at 97db efficiency and it’s a challenging pill to swallow when I hear the hum after waiting three years for an amp, though otherwise the 300b is an outstanding sounding amp.

There is also something to be said for the wattage. My UFO’s at 2 watts can’t drive a large full range driver the way the 300b does, so if you’re not using a sub - there’s that.

Your mileage may vary. It may be worth auditioning the 300b at Decware with a few different speaker pairs to get a sense of your personal tastes.
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Reply #11 - 05/10/26 at 02:13:50
 
I don't know that I would be afraid of of hum from the Sarah in the DeVores.

While they are rated at 96db, DeVore rates their sensitivity different than what is the industry standard. They actually measure around 91db at 2.83 volts.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/devore-fidelity-orangutan-o96-loudspeaker-me...

I've seen the videos where John DeVore pleads his case about using higher impedances (10 ohms) to rate his speakers. His method may be actually right for his speakers, I'm not a EE so I'm probably just barking at the moon.

Anyway I'm going to Stereo Haven outside of Edwardsville Il. to give both the O/93's and O/96's a listen this upcoming Tuesday. My wife kinda choked when I told her how much they cost! I told her to cry while she is on her two week tour of Europe!
I'm cruel!
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Reply #12 - 05/10/26 at 03:07:08
 
MM I mentioned my experience because he had mentioned 92 db speakers, and I too read that the DeVore's measured much lower, near 92 db. And I don't "perceive" hum differently, I just don't have it to an appreciable degree anywhere near listening seat with those 92 db speakers. In my system the big "hum" offender is the ZROCK3 with the gain dialed up.

Both are good amps. My journey was over 20 years in the making and across different amps and I was sure when I reached the SEWE300B that it was the best choice for me. Going in without any Decware experience must be hard.
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Reply #13 - 05/10/26 at 03:11:13
 
Thanks everyone for the responses. You’ve all been extremely helpful. I know myself, and it honestly doesn’t take much for little things to get on my nerves, so it’s probably wise for me to change my order to the UFO25.

If for some reason it doesn’t drive my O/96 the way I’d like, I can always keep it for a second system. I’m perfectly happy with the Sugden IA4 - O/96 pairing as it is. I just don’t want to walk away from my 10% deposit, and after waiting three years, I’m definitely going to get my taste of Decware.

This Stereophile review gives me hope though.....


https://www.stereophile.com/content/gramophone-dreams-46-decware-zen-triode-ampl...
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Reply #14 - 05/10/26 at 03:42:52
 
Lon, Donnie, I didn’t know Devore has a different way of measuring their speakers.

T, maybe they would be a good fit for the 300b. Still might be a good idea to go have a listen first. I don’t think there’s a bad choice either way when it comes to Decware.
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Reply #15 - 05/10/26 at 16:58:16
 
T,

Curious how easy/difficult is room and placement for the 0/96? I've heard they need space around them, and others have said they are fine close to walls? What is your experience?
Donnie,

Looking forward to your opinion after hearing them.
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Reply #16 - 05/10/26 at 21:36:20
 
I don't find them difficult to place at all. I do have mine a little wider apart than what is typically suggested, but at the end of the day they’re in a shared living space and some things just aren’t going to change, like furniture placement to accommodate speakers. Even with those compromises, they still sound fantastic in my room.
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Reply #17 - 05/11/26 at 21:24:31
 
I'm currently running O/96 with a few amps including a ToriiV and have really enjoyed the combination. I don't have any single ended amps so I can't comment on how low you can go into the flea watt territory but I have never felt them compress with my ToriiV or similarly powered First Watt J2. Devore markets a 300B amp as well (Komoro amp company) and I believe he thinks this is a good combo, and he has said in interviews that the speakers were partially voiced using an Air Tight 300B amp.

The O/96s are a very relaxed presentation and therefore tend to be forgiving with respect to placement and matching etc. I find I can get the deep soundstage if I sit further back and a wider soundstage (at the expense of depth) if I sit closer. Soundstage height is decent/ok either way - definitely not a very high soundstage either way.

I have mine pulled out a couple of feet from the wall (they are rear ported) and have experimented in bringing them out farther, but haven't noticed are large difference in bass response (only the soundstage presentation I discussed above).

And on the topic of the Build List... I bought the ToriiV used about 6 months ago, but  I am on the LIST also with my number likely to come up sometime middle of next year. I'm not sure what to do with that option now. Maybe trying out a single ended amp would be fun, but at this point I'm not sure I need another amplifier since i already run the Torii, the first watt and a McIntosh solid state monster... suggestions appriciated.

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Reply #18 - 05/11/26 at 21:45:03
 
Thanks guys. I have Torii III, LTA Ultralinear and a SE341.6 on order (a few months away). I was going to go with the 300b but didn't want to deal with any hum. I did have a SE84ufo but sent it back. Loved the sound but just didn't think 2 watts was enough. I believe that is only because I was listening to my Torii III for a few years before that. If I started with the SE84ufo I think I would have kept it.
I have some great nos kt66, kt88 and el34 tubes that I wanted to use so therefore the SE341.6 was ordered.
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Reply #19 - 05/13/26 at 02:16:08
 
Ok folks, I drove a couple hours today to listen to several DeVore speakers, the O/93 and the O/96.
We started with the O/93's powered by a Riviera or Fezz tube amp, I didn't pay that close of attention to the amp for whatever reason.
To tell the truth I've built speakers that sounded better. Not bad, but kinda flat and unassuming, no sparkle at all. I don't see where they are worth $10K.

We then set in the O/96's powered by a Sugden IA4 integrated, Wow is all I can say, very impressive, so smooth, so detailed, soundstage out the ying yang. $5k more than the O/93's and well worth it. My check writing hand started to trimble, but I kept my pin in my pocket, at least for now.

We now placed a pair of JM Reynaud Orfeo Jubile transmission line speakers into the mix, still with the Sugden powering it, big time bass, a little less sparkly on top than I prefer. A $14,500 speaker, fairly impressive.

And for dessert a pair of Graham LS3/5a's were brought out. This $3500 shoebox sized speaker almost swept the O/93's under the rug. They had enough bass and just great articulation. I see why people love these speakers.

So after all of that I didn't buy anything, well yet. I'm wanting to listen to the O/96 Bronze's that Stereo Haven won't have in for a few months. And yes they are $30K speakers, but I'm thinking that the regular O/96's will be more than close enough to the Bronze's that I will be able to talk myself into thinking that they are a bargain. Sometimes you need to use sideways logic on yourself.
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Reply #20 - 05/13/26 at 13:39:24
 
Interesting Donnie,

I have also been researching Graham speakers, glad to hear that pair sounded good. I've heard the LS5/5F are fantastic sounding as well, although I struggle with the look of them. I guess they say it helps with sound dispersion and alleviates the head in a vice listening position scenario but have never heard any to judge.
Interested to see where you end up.

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Reply #21 - 05/13/26 at 18:15:11
 
JD,

I was truly impressed by the Graham LS3/5a speakers.
When they were putting them out I was thinking that the sound would be small after playing such bigger speakers just beforehand.
Well I was completely wrong, big sound emanated out of them. They filled the room with highly articulate sound, way more bass than I was expecting and imaging that was out of this world.

Several years back I built a pair of Jeff Bagby designed Continuum II speakers that were a modern take on the LS3/5a speakers and was really impressed by them. I gave them to a friend and have regretted that move ever since.

If someone has enough amplifier power to push them, I can't see where you could go wrong with the Graham's.
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Reply #22 - 05/13/26 at 18:27:32
 
Yeah from what I've seen they suggest 50 watts or so at the least. I've also looked into Joseph Audio and although the specs suggest a lot of watts the owner Jeff told me my LTA (25 watts)could drive them fine unless at very high volume but wasn't so sure about my lower wattage amps.
Trying to find that sweet spot that will shine with all my amps...
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Reply #23 - Yesterday at 02:26:27
 
So I've been watching German YouTube videos showing the insides of the DeVore O/96's and then found a Italian website with complete plans and build lists of them.

I think that I can build a pair of O/96 clones for under $2K. The only hold up right now is the drivers are on backorder at Madisound.

The thing that prompted this research is that I had asked what a Koa wood veneer instead of the standard finish on the $30K O/96 Bronzes would cost?
Well I was quoted $3800 for 2 pieces of 18"X36" of veneer. That is nuts! I can buy a 4'X8' sheet of Koa veneer for $800.

I have tools and skills.

We will see if the drivers come back into availability soon.
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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 18:21:26
 
So I took a trip to Resolution Audio in their temporary Brooklyn Navy Yards location and had a chance to listen to the O/96 for approx 45 min.  I love the design and finish. Ran through some tracks that are well known to me.  Overall, it sounded really good and engaging but not good enough to have me consider changing my speakers anytime soon.

Here’s a picture.  If you zoom in to see outside their window, you will see the brown building where the Devore speakers are manufactured.  I thought that was cool.
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I changed the max image width from 750px to 725px when the forum resizes the images so in the future we will no longer see a horizontal scroll bar.
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Reply #26 - Yesterday at 19:13:04
 
Kamran….nice picture… and I gave you a 👍.  Such a great feature.  Question…what was the speaker lacking in comparison to your PaP’s….depth, imaging, resolution?  The speakers look like a very nice build.
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Reply #27 - Yesterday at 21:15:13
 
No complaints on depth and imaging, but it didn't appear to have the soundstage scale nor the resolution that I’m accustomed to with the PAPs. Also on certain tracks, I thought the bass was not as tight as it could be. Take that observation as a grain of salt, as it could be the room or the electronics they were using, so hard to be certain.  The speaker by no means sounded bad. In fact, I’d go as far as to say that out of the box speakers I’ve heard, this one easily rises to the top.  I wonder how different it would have sounded if I had it in my room, with my cables and electronics for an Apples to Apples comparison.
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Reply #28 - Today at 04:29:01
 
Thank you, Steve.  That will make picture viewing nicer!

Best wishes for you listening summer.  

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