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Karl
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Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Today at 01:43:42
 
Hi all,

I’m keen to try a single or dual W15s.  I use an active crossover were I can control levels to main and subwoofer amps as well as the crossover frequency and slope (12 or 24 Hz/octave). Two questions.

1. What sub amps drive the W15 well?
2. Given my external crossover, would a simple monoblock class d amp work?

Curious to hear what fans f the W15 are doing.
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Digital: Bel Canto E1X Analog: Rega P10/Lyra Etna SL/Sutherland Mini Loco Mk II Pre: Aric Unlimited II, Active crossover: Sublime K235 Amp: Torii Mk IV Speakers: Zu Union 6 Supreme and pair of Vandersteen V2W subs.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #1 - Today at 02:04:39
 
I should add my main speakers are 99 db efficient Zu Union 6 supremes…
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Digital: Bel Canto E1X Analog: Rega P10/Lyra Etna SL/Sutherland Mini Loco Mk II Pre: Aric Unlimited II, Active crossover: Sublime K235 Amp: Torii Mk IV Speakers: Zu Union 6 Supreme and pair of Vandersteen V2W subs.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #2 - Today at 03:10:01
 
The Crown XLS 1000 and XLS1002 both synergize with the w15 very well. Don’t let the fact that they aren’t class A deter you. They also have built in crossovers, so you wouldn’t need that extra piece of equipment in your chain affecting your mains. I prefer the crossover slope of the XLS1000 but YMMV.

The only other amp I have tried was a Bryston 4B and used a capacitor/inductor crossover on the W15’s.  The Bryston was sluggish compared to the Crowns.

If you did want to use your crossover you could easily pick up an older Carver Class A. I have heard simple plate amps work.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #3 - Today at 05:06:32
 
I'm running a Crown XLS1002 with my W15 in a Caintuck baffle. I'm running it in bridged mode and it sounds wonderful with my Caintuck F-15 Magnum speakers. It's not the deepest bass, but it fast and textured and fill in where the F-15s drop out in my room.

I have an SE34I.6 with the pre-outs which I use to send a signal to the XLS1002.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #4 - Today at 13:12:56
 
Two votes for Crown amps. I will definitely check them out.
Anyone using Hypex or Purifi? I will call Zu and see what they suggest as well.  Looking at their subwoofers, they seem to use the fill in the lower octave where the mains naturally roll off approach. That would mean no more external crossover and probably high level (speaker cable) connections to a sub.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #5 - Today at 13:34:27
 
Karl, I submitted my previous post hastily and after thinking about it arrived at the same place as you. The positives for W-15’s are they are very fast and natural, and synergize well with the Lii full range drivers.  The negative is that they only go down to the mid-thirties.

I’ve never heard Zu speakers, so I can’t speak to their paring with the W-15, but if you are already using a box speaker you might have a better experience using a sealed box sub that truly hits those sub frequencies.
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Re: Lii W15 in Caintuck OB
Reply #6 - Today at 21:27:09
 
And I have never heard a W15.  But I did have the F-15 as mains for awhile before I sent them back to a buddy who bought them originally. So I am familiar with the Lii house sound.

Adding things up, a W15 in a Caintuck baffle with a reasonable class D amp (like a Crown XLS1002) is probably around $1500.  The traditional sealed 12" to 15" sub from Zu or Rel would be double that amount new.  So I have some $ motivation here as this is my frequently changing, experimental, fun, awesome, second system. Also, in my room, 2 Subs are definitely easier to integrate than one.
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