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Re: Dynagrid Jr. Reviews and Impressions
Reply #100 - 03/06/26 at 12:14:48
 
I’m still really enjoying the new window into my system that replacing its only rectifier with the Decware Dynagrid Jr. has brought. Today I changed the 300B output tubes from the Shuguang Black Teasure 300B-Z to the Linlai Dream Series 7300B-D and they sound quite improved with this now fully seasoned outboard rectification, and with the new voltage regulation tube trio. Nice to have a different “feel” to the amp and the entire presentation as a change of pace, though I suspect I’ll put the 300B-Z back in within a few days.
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Reply #101 - 03/06/26 at 19:24:38
 
Hi Kahuna Jack
So I take it you have run the U52 in your UFO?
I have one but have been to nervous to try it as some say it may not be compatible with the UFO and it’s not a cheap tube, so I’ve been reluctant to try mine in case I fry it
Keen to hear your thoughts
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Reply #102 - 03/07/26 at 00:32:48
 
FWIW I am currently using U52s in my UFO25s. I have used them off and on for years both the in UFO25s and before that in my original UFOs. The U52 along with the "big bottle" 53KU are my two favorite rectifiers.  
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Re: Dynagrid Jr. Reviews and Impressions
Reply #103 - 03/07/26 at 01:16:54
 

I wanted to jump in and say I installed a Cossor 53KU rectifier in my UFO25 on Monday and couldn't be happier with its performance. This is the best Decware amp I have had to date, so I was understandably reluctant to gamble. My research, however, was positive, so I gave it a try. I'll jump back in after a while to let folks know how it's going, but so far, it's excellent.
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Re: Dynagrid Jr. Reviews and Impressions
Reply #104 - 03/07/26 at 01:51:41
 
I tried a new production Cossor 12AU7 and it was too bright for me. It might have mellowed some with more time, but I couldn't take it long enough. That rectifier may be different.

I must say though. . .I am very happy to be off the rectifier merry-go-round in my main system with the SEWE300B. It took a while for it to season in and be tuned in but now it's better than any rectifier I've tried, and that was literally more than a dozen, close to two.
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Reply #105 - 03/07/26 at 06:36:51
 
PointThatThing yes the U52 as James states is an awesome sounding rectifier in the Zen UFO . I had an eye out for arcing or bright sudden surges but so far it's behaved. I wont risk it in Torii Jr but that's what the DGJR is for.
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Reply #106 - 03/07/26 at 06:56:11
 
Thanks for the reply and James for input too. I’m definitely give it a go
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Reply #107 - 03/07/26 at 07:16:39
 
Hi James, just wanted to check 2 details,
I presume that the basic SE84 UFO is circuitry wise the same as the higher spec models and so will also be ok with the U52? And secondly is the GZ33 the same as the Cossar tube you mention?
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Reply #108 - 03/07/26 at 09:37:14
 
Yes, all current UFO versions are the same from the perspective of the rectifier. But one other thing, I see a lot of UK 5U4G rectifiers advertised as U52, but that isn’t really correct. The U52 to which I’m referring is the GEC U52 with the rounded base:

https://www.r-type.org/exhib/aad0149.htm

The GZ33 is different. I have them as well and they are very nice, but a step below the 53KU and U52. There is also the “skinny bottle” GZ37 that is a more modern version of the 53KU, but I like it less than the others. JMO/YMMV and all that.
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Re: Dynagrid Jr. Reviews and Impressions
Reply #109 - 03/07/26 at 12:26:49
 
Just want to add that the Black Treasure 300B-Z came back in pretty quickly. The 7300B-D are just a bit too lean sounding with the JR. That extra coloration that my favorite rectifier brought suits them better, while the JR. really makes the 300B-Z shine.

Also I did try three 0G3/85A2 voltage regulation tubes, and that sound is interesting, less channel separation in an LP like way, and then I tried two 0G3/85A2 tubes for the output tubes, and a 75C1 tube for the input tube ant that is very good, but my favorite seems to be two 75C1 for the output tubes and one 0G3/85A2 for the input tubes--I'm getting a deep, wide soundstage with dynamics and a nice frequency balance. Those will stay for a while.
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Reply #110 - 03/07/26 at 18:57:26
 
Hi James
Thanks for the confirmation. My U52 is a GEC, just need to find it, thought I knew where I had put it but it’s not there…treasure hunt coming up
Please confirm the GZ37 is also safe to use in the UFO?
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Reply #111 - 03/07/26 at 20:25:48
 
Yes, GZ37 is safe IMO.
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Reply #112 - Yesterday at 21:16:47
 
The DGJR has settled in to my Rachael for the last few days. Some power cable swaps in CSP3 Annv modded pre but thats about it. Even though I have a pile up nicer power cables the stock cable remains on DGJR and plugged in to a Panamax power strip. Nothing fancy there.

The only 2 solid conclusions I can offer at this point is that 'A' I need the DGJR for my Torii Jr v2 for as long as I own it. 'B' It would be a long drawn out extra innings game deciding between it and my GEC U52 which is a pretty expensive rectifier tube if one was to go shopping for it today. That U52 is a very happy place.

Herb Reichert once made a comment in writing that he can hear solid state rectification . I wonder if thats what I am hearing with the DGJR in place. Maybe a touch more detail,quickness and sharp edges?? you know all the common catch phrases used. But this could all be just tricks my mind is playing on me. I do know that when the U52 gets plugged in? magic stuff happens.

Keep in mind my evaluation is made from what some would consider budget or humble scources. Geshelli dac w/Sparkos, Ariston RD80 w/Goldring E3 cart into either SunValley phono stage or ZP3. Sometime even a FiiO portable player plugged straight in to amplifier . So no SDFB's , No high end power conditiong , no mystical grounding devices, no high end fuse options. So take that in to consideration.

I noticed a lot of heat reduction when used with Torii Jr but not quite as much w/ Rachael or 2.1 amps as both of their power transformers stay hot to the touch. Im sure its just noticed more due to the Torii Jr runs much hotter then the other 2 in the first place.

Still waiting for my Psvane Summit 845 to be delivered.
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Reply #113 - Yesterday at 22:53:35
 
I forgot to mention a few unfair challenges that I've thrown at the DGJR.
I really didnt think that these recordings would be turned in to ear candy but I gave it a shot anyway.

A 1977 double live Marshall Tucker cd that should have never been released as it sounds worse than a audience recorded bootleg. You know, Dead style with a mic duct taped to a broom stick 20 yards away from the stage. The companion DVD looks as bad as the cd sounds. This recording still sounded like garbage even with the DGJR in place. Junk in Junk out.

My go to ice pick challange cd , a Hank Ballard cd compilation that is so sharp and spikey on top end I can only listen to it on a receiver with tone controls and treble set at about 4 notches.

Final test before I retreated to my go to "audiophile" sounding recordings was a Kathleen Battle sings Mozart on a digital Angel release vinyl lp .... so thin and britlle/harsh on top I gave up before I finished entire lp.

Not blaming DGJR for failure as Im not sure anything besides heavy eq, volume and maybe 5 drinks in would make these recordings fun to listen to. I had to try though.  I no longer own my Blackmore Rainbow double live lp or that would have been next. That use to be my "see if I can make my stereo suck" recording.
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Reply #114 - Yesterday at 23:57:10
 
Wow. I don't listen to anything like that, or that type of music actually, so have no reference to compare and contrast. I do have some pretty crappy sounding airchecks of jazz rrom the thirties and forties and I wouldn't expect the JR. to save them. I think they might sound a bit better with the JR. but still sound like crap!

What saves a lot of recordings for me is the ZROCK2 and now the ZROCK3. And in general what I can say in the JR.'s defense is that now no matter what I throw at it the sound is improved from what any of my most used rectifiers would deliver. And this second 845 really is a little step up from the stock. I'm happy!
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Reply #115 - Today at 00:00:12
 
I've kept tube-rolling because the clarity the JR. delivers makes me hear tube changes a bit more prominently. I have the French E188CC back in and their leanness has been ameliorated by a duo of 0G3/95A2 from Holland regulation tubes for the output tubes and one of the unique tall unlined 0B2 from Holland for the input tube. This combo lets me hear things as deeper in the sound stage, some instruments hanging outside the window behind the rack, and there's a great dynamic yet smooth bass response.
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Reply #116 - Today at 01:54:44
 
I guess my testing would be considered incomplete really. Take the Angel Digital vinyl pressing of Kathleen Battle. Is all that aggressive top end of her voice just the mic distorting? My stylus/cart not set up well enough to track properly ?? The Goldring is on the bright side to begin with.
My next step would have been to try a conical stylus or to try and dial in my stylus angle a bit better idk. I have boxes full of Angel digital cd recordings I could dig through them and find another soprano based performance to see how it compares. My signal tubes are already on the warm side so......

Regarding the DGJR's performance on crappy recordings?? Maybe digital Telarc / Angel classical recordings are not something you want to hear into with any more detail . Even though I have enough in my collection I'm far from an expert on their merits other than I read people disliking them.

Maybe I'll test with something just climbing out of crappy status.... like a heavily compressed rock recording. Bob Seger or Springsteen etc
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Reply #117 - Today at 02:39:49
 
I mean is the goal of your testing to see if the JR. makes crappy recordings sound better? I haven't really set that as a goal in my auditioning of it. After I got the tuning and tailoring an initial seasoning settled my goal has just been to evaluate whether there is a significant upside to the JR. compared to the rectifiers that I have learned to love, and there is in the sense of transparency and dynamics and even soundstage and image vividness. If anything. . .it's revealing nature might make crappy recordings in some ways crappier. . . luckily with the ZBIT and ZROCK3 I've learned to make them tolerable for the most part, some I just won't listen to. Unavoidably I realize that I had been working with and working around colorations that my rectifiers had presented, that the JR. does not.

With the new 845 seasoned in now I've pretty much stopped "wondering" about the JR. and just exploring the many variations of total system presentation I can stumble on to, a process I have been pursuing for a long time with my system. The Decware components all allow so much to come through--the JR. is a new step up on that ladder.
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