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Yes, for blissful daylight hours. That sun really plays havoc on the power grid.

I chose a passive scheme for power conditioning. It finally fell in place after many years.

Enjoy your journey

Go over to Flick's Charoit in the Members System Picture Gallery Forum. I spell it out there over my audio journey.

By passive power conditioning I mean no regeneration or box that does it all. I do not think that those boxes is a complete solution to taming fluctuating AC power and I'm not just talking 60 cycles.

Synopsis:

Balanced transformer

Capacitor banks

9 gauge romex home run feed for an isolated outlet(6 gauge would be ideal with an appropriate connection)

Another home run feed for system dirty power connections

Grounding boxes

Swiss Digital Fuse Boxes

All Directional 10 gauge shielded power cords for components

VR tubes

Fascinating. I love that one can hear the effects of the sun in the ear.

Would anyone have a way to quell the noise at daytime? Something relatively easy to deploy, and within a few hundred or so few thousand $$$???

Looking into a balanced isolation transformer…

Interesting. Would I need it for my amp only? Or all of my components (dac, streamer, phone preamp, and soon a zrock)

Is there one in particular that is often recommended by you or others in the decware community?

Was also considering a battery, ideally one between my box and dedicated outlets… is that possible ?
Thanks,
Richard.

I see. The decware zen line conditioner is yet another captivating product.

Is the wait yet another 6 months…? Looking for one used but so far nothing I can find….

Ry,

My SS amp came with an outboard power supply and is utterly silent.

The company that I bought it from has AC filters, that while I haven't heard one personally, is really highly touted.  The Audiophile Junkie on YouTube even sells a version of the Angela-Gilbert Yeung filter.

Watch some of Angela-Gilbert Yeung's YouTube videos talking about noise and such.
I will pre warn you about AGY, "They" are different but a genus.

Here is what they have in the line of power filtering
https://www.angela-gilbert.com/ac-power-line-filters

Yes I read your thread on this before and was interested in the ecoflow.

Is it possible to install it between the box to the house and the outlet near my system?

Would the battery achieve the same thing as the conditioner, just through different means? What are their pros and cons?

Specifically, would it filter out the noise and solar interference which makes daytime listening a bit hazy?

Thank you all. This is brilliant stuff.

R

I too have noticed this as well (better sound at night, single malt Scotch in hand (if you like the Islay Scotches you might want to try the five year old Ardbeg, but fair warning, it’s very smoky and peaty, my buddy says it’s like drinking a forest fire!) and have scoured the forum for same insight.

I have a zen Line Conditioner on order and am looking forward to hearing what it might bring to my listening sessions.  Everything I’ve added to the rig (Decware ICs, Swiss Digital Fuse Boxes, Decware PCs and ZSTYX speaker cables, and now the Dynagrid) has provided positive results, some more than others.

I’m out in the boondocks and on rural power which has its moments.  So I’m hoping I too can find that “late night sound” in the middle of the day.

Between the Chinese eBay toroidal filter, the Angela, and the decware zen conditioner…. Would the sound and ability to filter out ac noise be essentially comparable?

Or should I just bite the bullet and be patient and get the decware?

I love the scotch discussion… I can never really rule out the late night tumblers polishing from coloring my ears and audio appetites…

Thanks all.
Richard.

Richard, I have been reading the suggestions and responses, and my question concerns your objective. I take it you have moved on from amp hum management and focused on optimal SQ. Is that correct? Not that they are unrelated, but some strategies may address one objective more than the other. For example, when I talked with Steve, he told me that the Decware power conditioner would not affect hum. Even so, other gains could be realized by adding it to your system.

I’m sure the Decware transformer is nicer, and if you don’t mind waiting it would be my choice. But I didn’t want to wait so I went eBay. Never hearing the Zen I can’t quantify the difference, but eBay definitely is an improvement over nothing.

Talisker 15 is another bottle of peaty delight I highly recommend.

In comparing the decware zlc and the Angela xf, I Asked them what they thought and they responded very thoughtfully.

What do you think of how the Angela and the zlc compare in my system to combat grid noise?

Their response: (I think it’s okay to post it here…) is interesting and curious what your thoughts were.


It is hard to compare the Decware and Angela-Gilbert unit because they are completely different designs. The Decware is transfomer-based, and filters by isolating input voltage from output voltage. It is an effective solution for industrial scenarios because it eliminates grounding and noise issues and does not negatively affect mechanical devices. As an audio solution we don't prefer it because transformers slightly alter the phase angle of the power provided to audio components, they tend to slightly roll off high frequency in you system, and they limit the amount of power available to run your gear. Transformers also tend to waste a percent of output power because they generate heat.

We like capacitance-based power line filtering because it allows the XF filters to aggressively target problem areas in the electrical (not audio) frequency spectrum to get rid of noise generated by Wifi, switching power supplies, mechanical gear, and all of the other common power contaminators. Capacitors do not waste energy generating heat, and do not limit output power to your components.

+3 on some Caol Isla.

RV, keep us posted on your progress. And in the meantime enjoy the music.