~185 watts

Interesting point about the backflow, JB. The Ecoflow wouldn’t have its IEC plugged in, it would just be using the existing home wiring as an extension cord, theoretically. I can’t say that I’ve tried it before and hopefully will never have to. I don’t see how it would be different than a generator subpanel, but maybe I will explore installing a subpanel. How were your inverters wired?

I changed things up last night and started listening to my analog sources with the Eco. When I do this, I have to use my SS Sansui amp instead of the Zen twins (because of their fully balanced setup). However, this is still using the ZLC.

Last night I played records for several hours, and this morning, changed over to the R2R.

Even more evident than digital sources, analog, with the Eco, is very unforgiving of the quality of individual recordings. A good recording is transformative, but a few I listened to last night, on the turntable, were not that great. Hearing deeper into the recording, is not always a good thing.

This morning, I started listening to the R2R, playing a mix tape, recorded from both digital and vinyl sources. That was a very enjoyable session - a few songs were almost unbelievable.

I guess we Eco users are experiencing what folks like Lon and Will have been, for quite some time, with their use of PS Audio regenerator power stations. It would be interesting to do a comparison between an EcoFlow and a PS audio model, to see how they differ in sound - one being designed specifically for audio, and the other for more general purposes.

The price difference is pretty nice though - Average of $500 for Eco, and the cheapest PS Audio model at $3000.  Still, I can't help but wonder if the audio specific ones, might be better - or is a pure sine wave-a pure sine wave-a pure sine wave...

probably the only way to know for sure is to get one of each  .

You say that as a joke, but now that I’ve heard the results of the Eco, I’ve already started checking used prices for PS Audio units. When will the upgradeitis bug stop biting???

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That just forces my hand of SHORT power runs. Is PS Audio hyping up a natural occurrence of shortened power delivery?

I have used PS Audio power regenerators for over 20 years, nearly thirty--P300, PPP, P5, P10 and I have still a P15 (which I use in my audio/visual system). I like them. They do clean power and improve sound playback, and give you all kinds of mode options that influence the sound.

My P15 developed an issue, I sent it back for a repair that took a long time, in the meantime I installed Verafi Audio LNBH and Snub Station Zero (times two, one pair for my analog components, another for my digital) and when my P15 returned. . .I didn't feel like returning it to the system, I really like the Verafi components and their influence on the system, and I didn't miss always futzing with the modes and settings on the P15 which were giving me a weird version of FOMO. I put the P15 in my other system, where it works wonderfully, and sold the P10 that I had there.

I really really have NOWHERE to put an Ecoflow device. Physically nowhere it would work, not an option to have it in another room etc. either. And I'm very happy with the sound I have and probably won't go the battery route.

I've used PS audio products for 15 years. Currently using the P3, and I bought Lon's P10 that I haven't used yet but will once I configure current and future components.  The results are tremendous (imo) and clean. Living in the city the grid is not clean.  I am very curious about the Ecoflow especially for off grid listening with the solar panel or configured with another solar energy system
If the the public system is that sketchy/unreliable/dirty why not just bypass it?

You must mean a bag of popcorn

My point is the longer the run the more resistance therefore increase of transient response. I really don’t think it is as relevant in our use. I’m thinking our amps are mixing the input voltage and audio output and dumping the sum back on the power creating a mask of lower frequencies. Long runs of power wire will see the whole waves of low bass. Like adding color dye to a circulating fountain pool at the speed of light.

I like mine cooked in butter and lightly salted

I get that sense of microdynamic detail being more discernible with the PS regenerators I have had, and with the Verafi Audio SDFB, LNBH and Snub Station Zeros. This happens when the power is cleaner.

Well, that's very good, I'm happy for you.

I honestly could not incorporate an Ecoflow into my system so I might take your word for it, but also know that each room, listener's ears and perceptions and what they want to hear in a system is different, and in this case of importance is the quality of power going into the outlets (and even the characteristics of the outlets!) and what is the ultimate and a great improvement for one is not necessarily for another. And I've also found that detail can be my own personal enemy and lead to bright or brilliant textures that are not ultimately the most satisfying for me. So unless I can somehow have a "Eureka!" moment and see a way to change my physical layout issue I will not know for sure and won't be able to compare. And I also without comparison of my own won't completely trust that an improvement could or would be had. That's just how it is with me, I've seen so many differing paths and not found every journey to be a satisfying one.

So I'll repeat I'm happy for you and also am finding as far as I can tell the same benefits from the route I've taken (did you have three SDFBs and two LNBHs and two Snub Station Zeros and the same components in the same room as I? No, so. . . see how my mind works? (Not to mention cabling, which I find is very important in regards to noise). I can't help it in my this is my stance in my third decade on this obsession. I'm happy at the moment and glad you are too!

By the way I was repeating what you were describing, but yours was somehow "more"? See what I mean, how can I know that and ultimately how can you know that without our both hearing the two "things" at once?

It is a very cool coincidence that those of us that have given the go of late, to use the EcoFlow, are all users of Lii drivers. And three of the four of us, use them in open baffles. Is this a coincidence, or have Steve’s, ‘audio gods’ had a hand in it???

Speaking of Steve and the audio gods, after his newly released, battery powered phono cartridge amplifier, his next major project should be the development of a Decware battery power station, that takes this type of device to the next level, as only Steve can.

Steve???

Geno, I’m waiting for the ultimate holy grail - UFO25 with built in Dynagrid, Swiss digital fuse box, and battery power source. Just connect a cord from your source and a cord from your battery charger +/-. Hey a guy can dream, can’t he?