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Lon

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #50 - 09/04/25 at 00:47:03

Well my replacement Mainstream arrived and I had it plugged into the ZLC for a few hours and sat down to listen.

Wow. It really does make an improvement, even with the LNBHs and Zero in place. It makes me realize that the ZLC is a great centerpiece for all this to be plugged into, and although I will try doing without it I think it is probably going to be kept in place to power the LNBHs and the Zeros and the Snubway and the Mainstream. I am getting amazing sound right now in this congiguration before the second Zero arrives.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #51 - 09/05/25 at 21:32:57

My Snub Station Zero was to be delivered today (originally Saturday). But. . . I got a notice from UPS that it was delivered, "At Garage." I don't have a garage though, and it's not here. I trekked around to neighbors and snooped and asked and they don't have it. I've started a claim with UPS, and I now have to be patient and sit back.

Sigh. Frustrating.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #52 - 09/05/25 at 22:45:58

Lon, I just read your message regarding UPS missed delivery, and I know how you feel. This has happened to me about four times in the past 18 months. I have gotten to the point where I build this into my expectations. The good news was in each case (except for my Hv1 speaker) the item was delivered in the next day or two. More likely than not, it will arrive shortly, but what a drag.

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Lon

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #53 - 09/05/25 at 22:53:50

Tony, sorry that the speaker still has not arrived!

The one neighbor I was not able to check with just stopped by with my package(s). Whew! This has happened before with our two houses, for some reason we can't figure out they see the address on my mailbox and think it refers to their house across the street, but they have to drive past their own mailbox to make the misdelivery. They are nice people, they had brought the boxes into their house as they were expecting packages, drove off to do errands, and then looked at the packages and saw they were for me when they returned. I checked out their place while they were gone and the packages not being in front of their garage I figured they hadn't been there.

As many packages as travel around the country day after day it's amazing there aren't more losses. I'm glad this didn't end up having to be a claim.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #54 - 09/06/25 at 02:15:33

Glad you were able to recover the package, Lon. I experience frequent delivery frustrations too, and view every received package as a blessing. When my SEWE300b was delivered it was left on the side of the road next to my mailbox, 1/2 mile and two streets away from my house. Worry aside, I received it without issue. Still no word on my LNBH shipping though…

Dang, Tony. Seems like that speaker is gone. Just don’t understand how they could lose it. I’m bummed for you. I think some lower efficiency speakers will make you fall in love with that amp.

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 26784	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #55 - 09/06/25 at 03:27:59 Wow. . . I would have had less hair if my SEWE300B were AWOL for any length of time on delivery day!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #56 - 09/06/25 at 18:39:07

Well, about 18 hours of use and this second Snub Station Zero is really helping the system out.

I tried a different configuration--removing the Zen Line Conditioner, and running two different lines from the wall outlet: a LNBH to a Zero to my three digital componentes, and a LNBH to a Zero to my three analog componentes. Sounded really good. . . but I missed a richness that having the Zen Line Conditioner with its isolation feet and with the Snubway and Mainstream also plugged into it gave, so guess the Zen Line Conditioner is staying and giving me good sound.

Really. . . the noise floor has never been lower and there is detail and dynamics that are really pleasing. I'm probably done. . . but knowing me I'll be thinking of another LNBH to put before the Zen Line Conditioner in the future to see if that helps any.

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Ghostship Seasoned Member Posts: 167	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #57 - 09/07/25 at 00:20:27 Lon, I read "I'm probably done. . ." and spit coffee all over my keyboard! ;D
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 26784	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #58 - 09/07/25 at 00:32:14 As seems fitting. I should be done, especially financially and wife-acceptance wise. But it never ends. But when I step up the ladder sonicwise as I did this week it's hard to believe that it will ever end, as the future beckons with promise.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #59 - 09/07/25 at 22:53:13

Okay, I was going to hold off commenting for a spell as things season in. . . .

But there HAS been a seasoning as I am approaching 48 hours of use on the new Snub Station Zero and have heard changes and a stabilization.

And the short impression is: this was a great move. It has been more than a month now that my P15 has been out of the system and I am getting really good, different, sound with these two Line Noise Black Holes and two Snub Station Zeros and the Zen Line Conditioner.

I think if I were still running the SE84UFO3 Monoblocks with the mods I would still be missing the P15. There are modes and functions of that regenerator that really helped the power output (perceived) and dynamics of those amps. But now after a second year of the SEWE300B it is all that it can be and I have tailored it to my taste and room and it has fewer needs for a regenerator to fill, and the power treatment from Vera-Fi Audio and the Zen Line Conditioner has really suited it.

I'm getting a deeper and occasionally wider soundstage, and a great tonal balance with judicious use of the ZROCK3. The addition of this second Zero, and separating the analog and digital components so each is fed by a Line Noise Black Hole tied to a Zero has unlocked a tiny bit more micro dynamics and an endearing smoothness (as opposed to edginess).

And . . . I have discovered that the Vera-Fi components and the Zen Line Conditioner are quite "sensitive" or responsive to isolation treatment. I brought out all available component footers etc. really have found a good combo stacking one of each with some separation (both from the component above or below and from the other "duo") that really lets them "be all that they can be."

Wow. I still haven't heard back from PS Audio about my P15's repair. When I receive it back I am either going to replace the P10 in my audio visual system with that and sell the P10 or sell the P15 (if I decided to do that I'll try do so without unpacking it as the packing is really something, and I'd hate to cut the plastic strapping as I can't replace it).

An adventure. . . that has been a great period of experimentation and immersive listening. And the best has just begun.

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Ghostship Seasoned Member Posts: 167	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #60 - 09/08/25 at 23:34:34 Thanks Lon. I truly appreciate yours and others on this forum search for the ultimate refinement of these amazing amps, and honestly reporting back what you've discovered.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #61 - 09/09/25 at 00:16:55

Glad you found this interesting. I did hear back from PS Audio today that my P15 was repaired, the "oscillator board" had failed and was replaced. They are going to invoice me next, not yet sure how much it cost but it may be a bit cheaper than I had anticipated as I thought more may have gone awry.

Got about four hours of listening to the system in today, and really enjoyed them!

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JHC Senior Member Posts: 62	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #62 - Yesterday at 23:26:51 Has anyone who ordered Verafi products (particularly the LNBH) during the labor day sale received them yet?
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Alan Arkin Verified Member Posts: 44	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #63 - Today at 00:05:25 I ordered both a snub station and LNBH a couple weeks back. My snub station is arriving on Wednesday and I think the LNBH is supposed to be getting to Vera-Fi this week.
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Tony Seasoned Member "Life without...music is inconceivable" A.Einsteln Posts: 813	Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero Reply #64 - Today at 00:23:21 In response to my email, I heard back from Marc this AM, and he said they had received a bug shipment of products, and they would have them out this week.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #66 - Today at 02:45:26

I called Mark at the beginning of August and inquired if he had any LNBH in stock because they showed out on the website. He confirmed he had “one” left in stock and he would ship it out the next day. I’ve yet to receive it.

For a while I was inquiring weekly and was always told a shipment just arrived, they had some in the warehouse, they were shipping by the end of the week, blah, blah, blah. I’ve written it off.

Mark’s always been solid and given me some great deals over the years, but I dont believe much of his explanations at this point. But I don’t think he’ll bail on you either. I loosely trust him but don’t appreciate the runaround. I get that there are tariffs and supply chain issues, but just be honest with people.

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