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LNBH and Snub Station Zero
08/01/25 at 14:26:17
 
Anyone using the new products from Verfafi Audio, the Line Noise Black Hole and the Snub Station Zero? If so how are you using them?

A rectifier failed in my amp, and though the SEWE300B was totally unphased, for some reason my PS Audio P15 began to be faltering and then ultimately failed. It will be an expensive repair, and my wife threw out the original packaging, so I'm holding of on that. In the meantime I brought the Zen Line Conditioner into the system, and I think these new components from Verafi Audio will be a nice addition.

I ordered two Line Noise Black Holes, and one Snub Station Zero, they haven't shipped yet, will probably have them near the end of next week or the week after that. I am hoping to use one Line Noise Black Hole in front of the ZLC, and one of those and a Snub Station Zero powered by one of the outlets of my ZLC. . . for my amp, ZROCK2 and perhaps DAC. Excited to hear the results!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #1 - 08/01/25 at 22:28:55
 
Hi Lon, I picked up a pair when they had the additional 25% off their current ongoing sale prices.  Below is a previous thread post of mine

“I picked up a Line Noise Blackhole paired with a Snub Station Zero. I was skeptical I would hear much, if any, improvement with all the power conditioning I am using (2-Purons, Snubway, Mainstream, High Fidelity Cables MC-1Pro, Furman/Panamax conditioner). After just 2 days I have to say adding this component pair provides a very nice improvement.  Tad more gain, better clarity, larger 3D soundstage, cleaner instrument separation and detail.  Very surprising result to say again.  

The set up = Line Noise Blackhole plugged in to its own duplex socket- Snub station zero plugged into Blackhole-power amp (into snub station soft start socket), preamp and DAC into Snub Station.  All other components plugged into power conditioner using a separate duplex socket.  All other conditioner device plugs on tri-outlet splitters on same duplex or electrical line.  Best my system has sounded and maybe better with some break in hours.”

With this line conditioning pair added into my main system I no longer needed my Stack SmoothLan, my EtherRegan, and Clock.  They no longer added any improvement.  I still use optical isolation.  It was nice to simplify, clean things up a bit and sell them for $.
Vera-fi recommends duplex/LNBH /SSZ/Amp(soft start outlet), Pre and Dac.  No Power strips, splitters or power conditioners into either of these.  Just one device in each socket only. Hope tis is of some help.  Enjoy them!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #2 - 08/01/25 at 22:43:24
 
Thank you!  I missed that post somehow.

Glad they worked out so well. I plan on using a Line Noise Black Hole into the power cable(s) feeding my Zen Line Conditioner, and then trying a Line Noise Black Hole plugged into one of the six sockets of the Zen Line Conditioner, and a Snub Station Zero plugged into that and then my amp, and probably my turntable power supply and my PS Audio Phono Converter plugged into the Zero. I think that may work, if not I'll just plug the Zero directly into the wall and the ZLC will handle only the other three components. I'm excited, I think it's going to be a great sound altogether.

Thanks for the post!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #3 - 08/01/25 at 22:53:40
 
Talk to Mark about plugging the ZLC into the LNBH?  10 amp peak max on them.  He told me not to plug my conditioners or splitters into either of these components.  Best to be sure it’s ok…Regards!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #4 - 08/01/25 at 23:07:40
 
I have bugged Mark a lot, giving him a breather.

Should be no problem plugging the Zen Line Conditioner into a LNBH to my thinking but we'll see. Mark told me I could plug a power regenerator into the LNBH so the Zen Line Conditioner should be no problem. The only real possible danger I think is plugging the second LNBH and the Zero and those three components into the Zen Lline Conditioner (which is really just an isolation transformer and a capacitor and six outlets). I know there is a 10 amp limit, and there's a 10 amp limit on the Zen Line Conditioner, and I'm using 8 amp fuses in there and am probably only pulling a 3 to 5 amp load with all six components plugged in and haven't blown a fuse. I think it's safe, but I do plan to check with Mark before they arrive. They haven't even shipped yet, so I have time to give him a little space!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #5 - 08/03/25 at 20:08:15
 
Well I did commune with Mark about my planned usage and he said there would be no issues! Looks as if I'll have my first two on Tuesday and then my third on Wednesday. Looking forward to the experiment!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #6 - 08/03/25 at 23:19:55
 
Good to hear Lon.  I’ll have to rethink how I can incorporate my streamer (4th component) into the LNBH / SSZ chain.🤔
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #7 - 08/03/25 at 23:24:56
 
I have six components (no streamer, don't like streaming). I'll have three in the ZLC  with the LNBH before it and three into the Zero with a LNBH before it plugged into the Zero. I'll also try it with the Zero and LNBH also plugged into the wall. If this works out really well. . . I may get another Zero and sell the ZLC. We'll see. I think it may make sense to have the ZLC in place . . . for possible expansion and it may possibly be better sounding this way.

HK. . . you did without your SDFB?
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #8 - 08/04/25 at 00:00:34
 
My set up is a bit different.  LNBH / SSZ has my Power amp, preamp and Dac.  My power conditioner has my streamer, sub, field coil speaker transformer, Foz SSX Sound expander, mesh router and LPS, optical FMCs and LPS, TV w/Bose 2.1 sound system. (Tv never runs when 2 channel system is running).  Even with all this my system is dead quiet with zero hum or noise issues. 🤞
Looks like we are opposites on source material.  I sold my TT/preamp, cd transport along with LP’s and CD’s.  Love streaming now that digital sounds so good.  Love exploring new artists and not having to buy and store media.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #9 - 08/04/25 at 01:19:27
 
Hey, I understand the allure of streaming. I just never found streaming to sound as good or better than cds and LPs, and I like to own music not rent it. I have no trouble finding new artists as is evidenced by the fact that I have about 35,000 discs or more between our house and my storage unit! My listening room and main system has been exiled to the upstairs, darn it, I'm used to it now after about five years or more.

My TV and video is in a living room system that is pretty darned good, though not as wonderful as the main system. And I have a third bedroom system, which is headphone only. An embarrassment of riches.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #10 - 08/06/25 at 10:53:48
 
Got the second order I had placed in, which is a Line Noise Black Hole; either today or tomrorrow I should get the first order, a Line Noise Black Hole and a Snub Station Zero.

With about 12 hours plugged into the system now. . . I have one of my (all identical) PS Audiio AC-12 power cords going from the wall into the LNBH and then the LNBH going into the Zen Line Conditioner. It did immediately lower a bit of hum I had, which was a surprise. And things seem just a bit more dynamic and relaxed after about four hours of use, now the relaxed aspect is lessened at least at the moment, and a more vivid imaging has appeared in its place.

Edit to add: Listening to an LP for the first time with the Black Hole and the effect is even morew pronounced.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #11 - 08/06/25 at 16:04:20
 
Looks like the sale has worked, the Snub Stations are all sold out. I picked up a LNBH and I'm hoping it knocks the last bit of hum out of my system. Will be going before a Tripp Lite Isolation Transformer.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #12 - 08/06/25 at 21:29:32
 
I disliked the sound of my system decades ago with the Tripplite transformers. For grins I suggest using the LNBH alone without the transformer.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #13 - 08/06/25 at 21:53:50
 
I was a able to add my streamer, which only pulls 5W, to my Snubstation Zero.  I now have my power amp, preamp, DAC and streamer connected to SSZ. I used this simple adapter I had on hand.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JRLSPRW?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
I was worried it might degrade the sound but moving the streamer to the SSZ and sharing an outlet with my DAC had a positive effect.  Not major but noticeable.👍
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #14 - 08/06/25 at 22:11:32
 
Good news!

I just got in my other LNBH and my Zero. I think I'll use the LNBH in another system rather than adding it to the Zero coming out of the ZLC. I do have the Zero coming out of the ZLC and have my SEWE300B, my NuWave Phono Converter and my turntable power supply (Rega Neo2) in the Zero. Digital playback is very good. I haven't yet spun an LP to try, that may happen later tonight, depending on how the household is (I was away all day at the Nissan dealer).
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #15 - 08/06/25 at 22:42:02
 
Just spun Side 1 of this LP, sounded great!

Now let's see what a few days does for all the components.

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Reply #16 - 08/06/25 at 22:51:07
 
Lon, What did you dislike about the TrippLite? I bought it as it is recommended in the SE84UFO user manual—but I realize there might be better options now. I was considering some linear power supplies, but that also seems like a daunting upgrade.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #17 - 08/06/25 at 22:58:46
 
It's been 20 years but what I remember is hum and a treble edginess. I was even began using two thinking that might help, one for digital one for analog, still have them in storage somewhere. I moved from there to my first power regenerator which was an immediate "ah" relief.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #18 - 08/08/25 at 18:19:00
 

Above Hereafter said:

I now have my power amp, preamp, DAC and streamer connected to SSZ. I used this simple adapter I had on hand.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JRLSPRW?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

That's four components and the SSZ hosts just three.  Are you using a splitter? The adapter you referenced does not appear to split.

BTW, I put in my order with Mark today for both units so I'm asking for my own future connections.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #19 - 08/08/25 at 18:48:28
 
Hi Tony, My adapter does allow for 2 cables to plug into one SSZ outlet.  Just have to keep the draw under 10 Amps.  You have to look at some of the other pics on Amazon.  Here’s a better picture.  You should be very happy with these two components they work really well for my system.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #20 - 08/08/25 at 18:54:28
 
Quote:
Posted by: Hearafter      Posted on: Today at 10:48:28

...My adapter does allow for 2 cables to plug into one SSZ outlet...


#!&&%!@ That is exactly what I need to use STRs with my UFO25. Now I'm going to have to starting think about that.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #21 - 08/08/25 at 19:09:22
 

Got it, now I see how that works. Thanks.
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Reply #22 - 08/08/25 at 20:41:29
 
Tony, I'm pretty sure you will enjoy these Verafi components.

I did decide to put the second LNBH into use, I plugged it into my Zen Line Conditioner and then plugged my ZROCK3 into the LNBH. So my analog components are plugged into the LNBH and the Zero, and the Zero is plugged into a LNBH, my two digital components (transport and DAC are plugged directly into the Zen Line Conditioner.

Really good sound as a result! Some hum was reduced, and though I sometimes, out of habit, think "what if I changed the MutliWave settin" or "what voltage is showing" or "how much distortion is on the line"--things I used the PS Audio P15 for--I otherwise really don't miss the P15. I have original packaging on the way to me from PS Audio to send the P15 back to PS Audio (my wife threw out the original packaging) I will probably put it up for sale after it is returned repaired. That will cover the auto repair I wasn't expecting to pay for this month. . . .
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #23 - 08/11/25 at 12:18:09
 
Here is a report that I sent to Mark at Verafi Audio as I had promised him I would do, summing up my experience so far with these products:

Mark, it's been nearly a week since all three of the components I purchased (2 Line Noise Black Holes and 1 Snub Station Zero) have been in the system and I was going to hold off longer to give you a report. . . but. . . I feel they have settled in and are "being all they can be" and. . . WOW.

First off let me explain how I am using them. Previous to their arrival I had moved from using a PS Audio P15 (with a Swiss Digital Fuse Box) to a Decware Zen Line Conditioner (with no Swiss Digital Fuse Box) as the P15 failed and will soon be on the way to PS Audio for a repair. This was not as big a "step down" as I had feared and I liked the sound. I had some hum (and I attributed it to my Decware ZROCK3 and SEWE300B, both of which seemed to have an inherent hum). Great sound. . . and then the three new components came in.

I put one of the Line Noise Black Holes in between the wall and the Zen Line Conditioner. Another I put coming out of the Zen Line Conditioner and out of that my Decware ZROCK3 (there is a Swiss Digital Fuse Box between the Line Noise Black Hole and the ZROCK3). A power cable from the Zen Line Conditioner went into the Snub Station Zero and into that I connected my Decware SEWE300B amplifier into the "Soft Start" receptacle (there is a Swiss Digital Fuse Box between the Snub Station Zero and the SEWE300B), my PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter and the Neo2 power supply for my Rega RP3 turntable with all the Groovetracer mods and an Exact2 cartridge into the two other receptacles. My PS Audio DSD DAC Mk II and my PS Audio SACD Transport were connected directly into the Zen Line Conditioner (there is a Swiss Digital Fuse box between the Zen Line Conditioner and the DSD Mk II).

Immediately there was lower noise overall in the system and as a result a bit more mid-range presence, mid-bass texture, and an increase in perceived dynamic presentation. I was very happy with the sound. What I found very interesting--and pleasing--was that over the next few days the "noise" seemed to diminish even more and on the fourth morning I was truly surprised to hear almost all the "hum" I had been experiencing (not audible from the listening chair) had almost completely disappeared: I could stand right in front of the system and barely hear any, just a tiny but from one channel, probably noise from within one of the 300B tubes. And the overall sound was just so accurate and involving, with a dynamic presentation that just had me glued to my listening chair.

I'm going to pay these components one more big compliment, perhaps the biggest: when I have my PS Audio P15 repaired it is most likely going up for sale. I prefer the sound the system is dishing out NOW with these components.

No wonder these components have been such a great success. I now have just one more planned upgrade: another Swiss Digital Fuse Box or Infinity Fuse and two 6 x 30 Graphene Sluggos to use with the Zen Line Conditioner. I'm saving up!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #24 - 08/11/25 at 15:16:45
 

Lon, thanks for your review of your Verafi Audio additions. I was going to say that they have your system "humming," but on second thought, that seems like a bad choice of words. Smiley

Saturday, I received a Line Noise Black Hole component. I won't review now, but I will simply add that after two evenings of using a single LNBH, I noticed and am enjoying the difference. Barrowing your description as I thought it apt, it too has a "lower noise overall in the system and as a result a bit more mid-range presence, mid-bass texture, and an increase in perceived dynamic presentation." And like you, I am delighted with the sound.

I have a Snub Station Zero unit coming in at the end of the week, and I'll use it with the 300B amp and the Space-Tech STR. I'm even more eager now to install that component as the improvements from the LNBH were so noticeable. I'll add more impressions once I have that addition.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #25 - 08/11/25 at 15:21:01
 
I was pretty sure you would have this reaction Tony . . . I think you'll enjoy the Line Noise Black Hole even more as it seasons a bit more in, and you will really like the Snub Station Zero--it really does have a similar effect on the amp when it is in the "soft start" receptacle especially after about five days when it really comes into its own. You've got some good improvement ahead.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #26 - 08/11/25 at 18:42:55
 
Lon,

Thank you for sharing your system listening impressions with the LNBH and Snub Station Zero. When I purchased my Caldera 10 subwoofer recently from Mark, he suggested try out the LNBH. Boy, I'm glad I did. What a substantial reduction in the noise floor of my amp and no noticable degradation in the "Decware magic" sound quality of my Mystery amp.

Suffice to say, I went looking to order a Snub Station Zero to handle some of my source equipment and CSP3 preamp which currently run through an UBER Buss conditioner. Hopped onto the Vera-Fi Audio webpage and was disappointed to see  they're "sold out". 😥

I emailed Mark to see when the next shipment was in and to my surprise he still had a few units left in the warehouse. Anyway my PayPal payment has been sent and he's shipping it today. It always pays to contact Mark😉.

Anyhow another shipment iof LNBH and Snub Station Zeros are due to arrive in two weeks. Anyone interested in the Snub Station Zero reach out directly to Mark soon, there are only a couple left.

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Reply #27 - 08/11/25 at 19:10:06
 
Great news HK! I am sure you are going to enjoy it. And yes, Mark is a great gentleman and I really enjoy communicating with him!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #28 - 08/11/25 at 20:51:54
 
Lon, you’re a heck of a salesman. It says a lot that these are replacing your regenerator. I’ve been in the market for one so this will save me some money and excited to try the LNBH out.

HK, thanks for the tip. I just talked with Mark and I think I’m getting the last one. Was disappointed to see them sold out on the website too.
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Reply #29 - 08/11/25 at 22:04:21
 
Good news, be sure to post your impressions, I think you'll really like the improvements.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #30 - 08/22/25 at 21:18:24
 
Verafi just introduced a new product. I'm not sure I fully understand its use but it probably is a doozy.

The first run of our AC Tuning X is shipping next week.

This isn’t just another cable. AC Tuning X replaces Piggy Tails and other power cords by directly coupling your mains to your IEC input — with a twist.

Here’s how:

The “Line” (HOT) in the NEMA 3 blade accepts one of our Sluggos.
Neutral and Ground remain untouched.
But the Line? It has a Graphene Sluggo directly inserted into the POWER PATH.
AC Tuning X comes with a Graphene Sluggo as well as Super Sluggo (Gold Immersion over a Copper Substrate) as part of the package. Each makes its own distinctive difference.

The result: you can literally tune your AC mains. Just LISTEN. The story will be instantly told. This is really a very special product.

Price is $495 only.

With a 100% trade-in credit on Piggy Tails—dollar for dollar when it's time to release.
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #31 - 08/23/25 at 00:44:46
 

Hey Lon, I just put in an order for one of Mark's "doozies." I'll add more once it arrives and I have had time to check it out. So far, I have been more than pleased with his products.



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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #32 - 08/23/25 at 01:42:35
 
Thanks Lon…I received the Vera-Fi email today as well. I wish it had more details on its application.  My understanding is that it must be paired with SDFB and that it is a piggy replacement adapter with a Sluggo to tweak the sound signature.  It eliminates the 1 ft cord making for a more direct and clean connection.  The set up to plug the power cable from power to the SDFB to AC Tuning X  then into components requires a significant amount of real estate behind the component.  My components are in a cabinet so I don’t see this working out plugged into components.  It should work plugged into SSZ then SDFB then power cord.  $400 piggy replacement after trade in is a step?  Am I misunderstanding the ACTuning X application?
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #33 - 08/23/25 at 01:46:53
 
Yes, I think you have it figured out right. I suspected that was how it worked as well, and I can see both an advantage and the very real disadvantage that would like you prevent me from having the room for it to work.

Tony, eager to hear your impressions!
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #34 - 08/23/25 at 13:32:23
 
The AC Tuning X looks like a promising product, bringing the SQ of a Swiss Digital Fuse Box forward and eliminating the need for a Piggy Tail or second power cord. Given that Decware equipment has IEC's located on top it will be interesting to see if the combined weight of the AC Tuning X and power cord will work well.

I'm guessing that with a heavy power cord, some form of bracing may be required. This may depend on how tight the product fits in the IEC. We are a creative bunch, so I'm sure there will be many solutions.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #35 - 08/23/25 at 15:21:31
 
Now that everyone has some time on their LNBH and Snub what do you think?  HK, does the Mainstream listing mean it is obsolete with LNBH and Snub?

Mark told me he had one left of each. Once I paid ghosted on me. The snub arrived yesterday, 2 weeks later, but now told the LNBH is out of stock. I can’t complain, he gave me a killer deal.

I powered down my system to install the Snub and when I started it back up my streamer installed a new firmware image so the Snub came back out so I could assess the software upgrade first. I’ve honestly been really digging my two devices just plugged directly into my dedicated circuit. Always open to a possible upgrade though.
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Reply #36 - 08/23/25 at 15:25:33
 
Re: the new device

I’ve always wondered why the SDFB didn’t just plug in directly, either a built-in IEC on one end or a built in wall plug on the other. Why not just simplify and do away with unnecessary additional components?
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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #37 - 08/23/25 at 16:24:10
 
MM,

Yes the Snub has replaced the Main Stream so to speak. I had the Main Stream located in an AC receptacle that fed my PI Audio UberBUSS, which served my source equipment and CSP3. Now I have source equipment > Snub > UberBUSS. This sequence and combination sounded best to my ears, so the Main Stream is now up for sale.

The Main Stream really cleans up AC noise, but I just don't need it in my chain now.

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Re: LNBH and Snub Station Zero
Reply #38 - 08/23/25 at 18:05:37
 
Well my Mainstream has died. . . so I can't comment on its necessity in the system. I do now have two Snubways, one in one of the sockets of my Zen Line Conditioner, one in the outlet on the opposite wall to that the system is plugged into. I think they make a bit of a difference; I removed them both and a slight edginess seemed to enter that went away when I replaced them. Not a deep test but enough for me to just leave them be.

The Snub Station Zero and the two Line Noise Black Holes I have in use are not going anywhere. I think they're now fully seasoned and  doing a great job at making my system shine.
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Reply #39 - 08/28/25 at 00:06:57
 
Hey Lon,  One of my Mainstream plugs no longer has a blue LED light.  How do you confirm whether one is working or not?  Thanks.
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Reply #40 - 08/28/25 at 00:31:32
 
I don't know the answer to that one. . . . I haven't reached out to Mark at Verafi. . . I bugged him a lot in the past weeks and want to give him a break. Mine seems to get as warm as it did when the light was still illuminated and I don't notice any diminution of sound quality so either it is still working, or because I've added the Snub Station Zero and two Line Noise Black Holes its effects are minimal in addition or negated.

In a week or so I'll check in with Mark, and I would suggest doing that in your shoes. . . .
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Reply #41 - 08/28/25 at 00:57:28
 
Ok sounds good.  Mine is also warm where my second one is not.  I will reach out to Mark and let you know.  Thanks
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Reply #42 - 08/28/25 at 01:09:14
 
I just checked mine. . . and today it's cold. So it's likely no longer working. I guess I'll contact Mark.
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Reply #43 - 08/28/25 at 01:16:33
 
I just got notice from Mark that I'll get instructions to send mine back.

As for those that run cool when operating Mark included this note:

Please note that Peter and Richard changed the dropping resistor so the new ones don't run warm any longer
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Reply #44 - 08/28/25 at 18:04:15
 
Lon, I received the same resistor information from Mark and to work with Jordan to send the Mainsteam (with the Led light out) to them for replacement.
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Reply #45 - 08/28/25 at 19:25:48
 
Great! I got a return label and dropped mine in the mail; I notice that a replacement is in process for me.
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Reply #46 - Yesterday at 21:15:21
 
Mark reports that the sale is going really well, lots of orders for the Labor Day Sale.

I joined in.

I was struggling to decide my next move. . . either to keep my existing set up and add an SDFB with two 6 x 30 Graphene Sluggos to the Zen Line Conditioner, or to buy another Snub Station Zero and remove the Zen Line Conditioner and run my six components off the two Zeros (with a LNBH in front of each) with three digital components in one and three analog in the other.

I decided to order a Snub Station Zero. To burn in and evaluate I intend to run both Snub Station Zeros from the Zen Line Conditioner at first, and then when seasoned in, remove the Zen Line Conditioner and see how that sounds. This ordering another Snub Station Zero is much cheaper than an SDFB and two large Graphene Sluggos. . . so that is good.

Going to have to wait a bit for the Zero, just got a notice it is in the shipping process (they say "out of our hands").
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Reply #47 - Yesterday at 22:29:26
 
I received my Zero last week but still no word on the LNBH.

Interesting that you’ll put your LNBH on the front end of the Zero. That makes sense. For some reason I was thinking to plug Sarah into the LNBH when it arrives, and everything then with the Zero in front.
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Reply #48 - Yesterday at 22:35:20
 
That would probably work fine. What I have right now is one of my two LNBH plugged into the ZLC, the Zero plugged into the LNBH, and the SEWE300B plugged into the "soft start" input on that, and the ZROCK3 and the NuWave Phono Converter plugged into the other two. My second LNBH is plugged into the ZLC and the DSD Mk 2 DAC is plugged into that. My SACD transport and the power supply for my Rega Neo2 turntable controller are plugged directly into the ZLC.

I am getting great great sound right now.
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