Raven:
Quote:...more about the ambient cues...the reverb that's in the recording (real or added) blends together seemlessly from the left speaker to the right speaker, with no dropouts in the middle.
Interesting. I have never heard a dropout in the middle so can't relate. But I like ambient information as a guide too. It remains a primary listening tool for refining my system/room. I learned about it from Eric Hider when they were developing the Tranquility DAC. They found the fine information a critical indicator for extracting all that Rebook had, finding 44/16 contained much more than most folks thought back then...plenty to sound alive and smooth... "analog"... if carefully revealed. With that fine information came so much more.
Here the ambience has no boundaries that I can tell, though I do hear more in front of me where the instruments are than behind. But the trails go all around including behind, and continue well beyond the walls. Feeling like being in the room of the players is enhanced by this spacial ambience, but the local stuff, the ambient info around each player is pretty huge too for me. I stopped trying to locate sound to the speakers...they look like props.
Fine information, including ambience and harmonics are what I was talking about in terms of solving limitations to transparency and open spaciousness. If the system and room are not limiting or overly altering what is available from the recording, complex ambient information seems to be naturally present.
Quote:When it's realy well done, you can actually hear the walls of the room the recording was made in, supersede your own walls (which is why diffusers are so important IMHO).
Ambience of the space created in the recording has always been natural sounding here, but it can be better or worse depending on how revealing my system is tuned. Hearing recorded space wall reflections shows up when it is there. I usually find it a little distracting but it does indicate that the system is not limiting potential.
Ambience filling the areas around players and fading in all directions, sort of without boundaries have been normal for me without any normal diffusers. But then I do have a lot of natural diffusion from the way my room is made; some traps and absorbers in non-obtrusive, non-traditional locations; lots of various electronic noise mitigation and vibration mitigation (pretty big players); and some other sound clarifying tools you probably doubt the reality of.
Quote:But the "wall of sound" comes from the ambient cues filling the space in front of you, projecting a 3D space inside your space.
I think I understand now, the “wall” indicating no space in the musical presentation, the ambience filling in between and around the players? I guess "a wall of sound behind the speakers" suggests being more linear to me than 3D so I was a little confused.
Pal:
Quote:I have always had good depth behind the speakers. It was soundstage in front of the speakers I lacked. Everything was pretty much behind.
Now I am more enveloped in sound which is great for these live performances. That is primarily a Regen thing
Sounds good! Does that mean there are players in front of the speakers? Here for the most part I only hear the singers and ambient/spacial information in front.