Mark
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Just some addl. comments: I'm at about 150 hrs. on the Zen CDP, and it's just starting to open up... I would say that I need at least double that to come up to speed... I did try a Telefunken 12 AU 7 'smooth plate' tube for the output, and it's doing well for what I listen to...
Also tried an Amperex 'Bugle Boy' 12 AT 7 'D foil' getter tube, which is also very good... The Telefunken has a lot of air on top, and the BB excells at imaging and depth... VR tube is Raytheon OC2...
This player has both weight and finesse... A very hard combination to attain in a CD player... It seems to defy the axiom that a tube player sacrifices detail for warmth... (m.)
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