high excursion drivers and 2500 wrms, is it a better option than a scaled / modded wo? anyone had great results with a 12" hwk?

[quote author=J_Rock  link=1150156228/0#1 date=1150167271]60.  I don't wanna sound like a jerk, but you keep asking everyone else what WE think.  Why don't you spend some time and relax building the sub boxes.  I mean, instead of haveing people preach to you, go learn yourself.  It will be more rewarding for you to listen to each idea you have, and you will be the expert on the forums, "Well when I built my scaled WO it...."

And if thats not reason enough, I totally see you as the kind of guy that learns better when he sees it.  We can tell you a scaled WO will loose its magic, but you will be able to HEAR it in person.

And you also seem like the kind of guy who enjoys tinkering.  You can't tinker with something, really get your hands on it and manipulate it, without having it there in person. [/quote]

i dont want to waste time and money building things that wont work.i get my pleasure from listening to the sub not building it.

My buddy had some Kicker Comps and decide to build the HWK12. It turn out better than average. It is the first HWK that you could bounce quarters off of and I don't mean throwing them at it either. Four Kicker Comps quad loaded caused the sides to vibrate like the depth charges did to the sub in U571. The guy got lucky and his wife let him bring it in the house to hook to the HT so we did not get a chance to try it in my van. The HWK12 was putting out about 125db with only +300w and could take more. If your talking 2500w to a HWK12(w/Kickers) you are on your own. I need my hearing for furture experiments. I would try it regardless just to see the devastions that occurs and let me know how loud it could actually play in that small a space like a van.   HT-EXT

High Excursion and 2500watts? WOO! I'd do it just to say I did it. If you don't like it, someone will buy it. 8)

Don't forget to mount it horizontally on a tripod with the top port facing out a window with a potato in there. Just a nice thump in the bass and you'd really rattle the window of the car next to you.

EDIT- With that much power, and the excursion, I'd go at least 1" MDF, maybe even some 2x4's on the outside(I don't care about looks).

Auto-loader with a roll on a double-kickdrum goin....lol.....I think too much.

60....where ya at? (Makin' a tripod)

So, as it stands, the 15" hwk was better than a modded WO?

[quote author=Lee in Arkansas  link=1150156228/0#10 date=1150231069]So, as it stands, the 15" hwk was better than a modded WO? [/quote]

a 15" housewrecker (2 x 15" jbls)is comparable to but different to a 12" db (1 x 12" ss rl-p), in a mini van (300 cubic feet) im sure in a trunk or regular car performance would be very different.

You'll need a steep high pass rumble filter probably in the 30-35hz range if you want to pump significant power into it.

[quote author=60ndown  link=1150156228/15#15 date=1150248570]
your sujjesting hwk offers no controll over the driver below 30hz?
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That's the nature of vented enclosures.  Below tuning the drivers unload.  At least with the WO, you've got the sealed chamber side helping control the cone, but again, there's no way you could apply full power and a 30hz signal even with the WO.

Isn't the HWK just as BandPass as the WO?

Isn't it still harder to unload it?

[quote author=John in CR  link=1150156228/15#19 date=1150315435]it's a shared airspace with no change in pressure [/quote]

unless you wire them out of phase?

[quote author=60ndown  link=1150156228/15#22 date=1150330163]

unless you wire them out of phase?
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Tried it.  Sound sucked.  It's not even the same as sealed 1/2 size center chambers for each driver because the 2 drivers are each seeing a differently tuned vented chambers on the other sides of their cone, so they move differently.

[quote author=60ndown  link=1150156228/15#25 date=1150415410]

but all the rules change in c vehicle no? [/quote]

No, the same rules apply, just a much smaller room.  If you're outside of the car and a window is open then you'll get some box within a box behavior.