Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:05:19
I told it to show me alien UFO abducting Decware tube amplifiers...
Yea, I couldn't have predicted that.
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https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl AUDIO FORUMS >> General Discussion and Support >> Fun with AI audio gear https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1710785120 Message started by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:05:19 |
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Title: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:05:19 I told it to show me alien UFO abducting Decware tube amplifiers... Yea, I couldn't have predicted that. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:10:20 With the same instruction I also got this:  So now I want to make an amplifier that levitates. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:12:49 I changed the instruction to say: alien UFO abducting fancy audiophile tube amplifier and things got interesting. 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:15:36 Same instruction generated the following variations:  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:17:34 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 19:18:17 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Same Old DD on 03/18/24 at 20:04:16 That first one is hilarious! I see air conditioners with too many controls. It didn't seem that your AI kit fully understood what a tube was, at first. Plenty of tubing, though. ;D |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:14:37 I decided to see if I can get it to create an amp that levitates. It failed several times but in the process created some cool amps!  I love this concept... where the rack and the amp are one in the same. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:16:13 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:16:42 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:17:17 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:18:11 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:18:55 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:20:00 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:20:36  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:21:29 And finally, we got one to float! 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:25:52 OK, I can see I'm pretty screwed here. I can't stop. The AI uses a random number generator to seed itself and I changed the number to 432. Then I ran it again with the same instruction. It still isn't making amps that levitate but I'm starting not to care. 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:26:33  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:27:01 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 21:27:40 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by CAJames on 03/18/24 at 22:33:41 I would definitely buy some of those amps. I don't even care what they sound like. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 22:40:39 I added a Tesla Coil theme to it... 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 22:42:44 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 22:43:53 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 22:45:08 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/18/24 at 22:47:50 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Kamran on 03/19/24 at 00:47:14 These are so much fun to create! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Brian on 03/19/24 at 04:58:24 Reply #14; I think Dr Frankenstein used to listen to Beethoven on that one! I like to imagine that those big towers are transformers. What wonderful fun. I agree with James, I want an amp that looks like this. Brian |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by JBzen on 03/19/24 at 16:10:22 From a space ship to paddle boat, I agree that the built in rack as a favorite. Too much green beer? Looks like you had some fun yesterday with this :) |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 16:20:19 So you have to marvel at the apparent AI creativity. With some study you can see it comes from ignorance. So then that poses the question 'is too much knowledge counter creative?' It would be hard to create anything new if you already knew everything that there was. Just sayin. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 16:46:53 Here are a few more... |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by 1stwattlife on 03/19/24 at 17:42:09 Oh, wow! That is obnoxious and awesome simultaneously! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:29:01 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:30:36 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:32:21 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:33:02 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:34:09 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:34:36 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:35:21 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:36:08 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:36:44 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:37:17 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:43:08 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 19:44:40 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:12:23 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:16:47 Don't want to let it get too conventional... let's get back to the wild side : ) 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:22:26  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:23:30 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:24:31 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:25:27
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:44:32 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:45:21 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:46:06  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:46:55 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:47:39 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:48:14 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:50:37 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 20:53:40  When I get to 100, we'll vote on everyones favorite, or perhaps that would be futile. I might be able to narrow it down to 10 but not just one. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:32:21  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:32:55 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:33:25 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:33:55 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:48:08 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:49:22 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:50:47 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:52:42 This is where it gets really interesting. I found a way to go back in and 'enhance' an amp, so I did this to the last two I posted. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:53:21  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 21:54:33  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Donnie on 03/19/24 at 22:16:02 So, what would it take to build something like these amplifiers using current electronics? I'm talking about building something with a lot of retro-future look to it. Can you imagine how many orders there would be for something with real style? Maybe something special with real high end finishes? I've kicked around the idea before to come up with a fancy finish kit for Decware amps, some brass or chrome accessories to bolt on. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/19/24 at 22:28:20  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by JBzen on 03/20/24 at 12:18:42 Quote:
;) If I knew everything there was, the preference would be to be part of Buffalo Bill's handiwork. 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 15:56:04 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 16:07:53 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 16:46:41 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 17:06:41 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 17:07:53 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 17:09:51  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/20/24 at 17:15:47  So that was 101 amps... You can use the post number to choose your favorites. Some posts have two versions of the same amp, those can count as one. Anyone think they can choose just one? I came up with ten! Hope you enjoyed these as much as I did! God, if only it was this easy to design amplifiers! Happy listening! Steve |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by HockessinKid on 03/20/24 at 19:52:16 Steve, You are having way too much fun with the AI created amplifier images. They do look cool though. HK |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Lon on 03/20/24 at 20:31:48 My vote: 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Bottlehead on 03/21/24 at 03:57:25 Good one, Lon. Randy |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Brian on 03/21/24 at 04:27:17 My faves: 14; 5 a gigantic electron tube in a bowl shaped glass - fantastic!, one per channel please; 18 not a wild one, but a lot of beauty; 22 not generally, but I love those classy tube covers; 24! what a freakasaurus; 36 Superman's domed city. That woulod make a great looking dust cover; 41 wow! Insane. I wonder how it works; 43 simple elegant beauty; 45 as 18, not wild but much beauty; 55 I love the big transformer boxes with radiating fins, at least transformers is what I pretend they are; 58 great looking tubes!; 61 I don't mostly go for these "city of tomorrow", but I like this one; 63 another with fantastic looking tubes; 76 more of the tubes I need; 86 the exposed plasma wash that would kill the house cat - too wild!; 97 Back down to Earth. I am overloaded with bizarritis by this time, but this has a nice beauty. Thanks Steve, a fun ride! Brian |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by JBzen on 03/21/24 at 10:00:28 8,19,91 appeal to my eyes. 8 and 19 actually look like workable amps. 91 looks as a Decware might sound. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Andrew77 on 03/21/24 at 14:31:28 #104 - Lon has my vote! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Brian on 03/22/24 at 05:02:18 Also 33 Brian |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Kamran on 03/22/24 at 05:34:25 After looking through all the images, I have to follow Lon’s lead and conclude that I like this one much better: 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by JBzen on 03/22/24 at 11:52:35 Great shot Kamran. Close observation gives an impression of how it sounds. Balance, nimble, and detail are words that come to mind. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/22/24 at 17:19:50 Yea, that picture rocks man! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/22/24 at 17:20:17 So, even after creating all these images, I have to say it is scary to witness the results with so little input from me. Yes, I steer it obviously, but it has a mind of it's own sort of speak. I stare at the layouts and tubes and internals and try to imagine the coding it would take to make these choices and construct such attractive images, and with such variety! Even though it uses a random seed generator to improve spontaneity I disabled it and set it to fixed frequency of 432. Still it can repeatably come up with nearly endless stuff, not to mention the background scenes and the choice of lighting etc. I never dictated any of that. Some are against a jet black backdrop and some are not. Why? How the hell does this thing do this? Anyway, I decided to pack these up into short videos series on Youtube that I will put together one of these evenings. In the process of doing so I realized that I could use the AI to create the backgrounds for a theme title in each video. The first would be themed the Tesla Series where I would needed a picture of Tesla playing around with tubes in his lab. The AI made up this:  Now if I was watching a video on Tesla and this image came on, I would have no real way of knowing that whatever the hell that is, is fake, as is the entire image. A little disturbing. In 50 years from now if the image crept into various video documentaries you can see how devastating it would be to the fidelity of the documentary. BTW, this is the lowest resolution. It can take the resolution so high that it will render dust on the surfaces of things. This is why I water mark every image. I can see a time in the future where there is no way to know what is real and what is AI, so when you do searches for stuff you will have to stop all research at the year 2023. I also predict a lot of fake news 'discoveries' coming down the pike since the world is becoming click driven, now that they can produce photorealistic fake images in minutes instead of hours or days in photoshop. Anyway, not to hijack my own thread, I just want everyone to know what we're dealing with here if you didn't already ; ) Meanwhile, I absolutely love the voting on your favorites! So far the majority are not in my personal top ten list and it makes me realize how different we all are in the fine details. No doubt we perceive sound preferences in a similar way. Clearly to take tube amps to this visual level of art we are going to need glass blowers. Maybe these pictures will make their way to China and the hundreds of tube companies over there will get inspired to take things up a notch ; ) Steve |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/22/24 at 18:24:09 Kamran, I showed it your picture and this is what it came up with...     This is what it considered an enhanced version of the last one...  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Kamran on 03/22/24 at 19:11:29 Thx John/Steve and wow Steve! This is really fascinating! I didn’t think of giving AI images to play with. That opens up interesting possibilities. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Brian on 03/23/24 at 05:18:01 I was completely taken in by the Tesla picture. I thought that was one of his gadgets. If it is an amp, those wax cylinders must not have been very loud. He is just in time to blast the latest from Franz Lehár on that giant amp. What a time to be an audiophile! Brian |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by MikeinMontana on 03/23/24 at 16:57:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdqazixuRY |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Sean on 03/23/24 at 17:30:14 Plaque outside the church my buddy was married in some 25 years ago in Monroeville PA. Tesla spent some time around these parts with Westinghouse and I believe there are other plaques in the area, but can't recall where.  I'd love to see some more AI renderings of crazy looking tubes! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by CAJames on 03/23/24 at 18:06:36 I might call the pics you made from Kamran's amp "Single Ended Lava Amps." Quote:
True that. I've said before that "artificial" intelligence will make actual human intelligence even more important. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 03:04:17  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 03:34:09 Honestly I've just pretty much figured out that most of these images are just sketches. They are lower resolution, more whimsical and a lot of fun. However, just to see what would happen if I took it to level two, (it goes to level 8) this should give you an idea of it's abilities. You will have to click on the image to see it in it's native resolution or it will be fuzzy. Honestly, it freaks me out a little bit. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 03:37:13  Yes, I conjured this in less than 6 minutes with AI. WTF? Not a copy of something or someone off the internet... or a picture from my camera of a real person... just a one of a kind fabricated image that exists nowhere else on the planet, only here. That really freaks me out. You could sit here and create people that don't exist, or would there be doppelgängers? Steve : ) |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Brian on 03/24/24 at 04:30:19 Steve said: "Clearly to take tube amps to this visual level of art we are going to need glass blowers." I like that idea! Brian |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 04:47:33 Indeed. Glass blowers. Reproducing any of these would be an artistic accomplishment to say the least. But if I could have tube abstract art that was this off the wall and sounded like a Decware amp I might be in for one no mater the price. To look at any of these in real life playing music in your own room, like a Sarah 300B for example, would take that experience to an even more surreal level. I feel like I'm being driven to do this to seed the consciousness, if not my own, then everyone else with artistic skills. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 04:49:45 Check this out, a lower resolution variation...  |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 05:11:36 Here is another fun one... in a future lifetime with technology beyond ours, this is what I can see a Zen Triode Amplifier looking like.  I want one right now! I think it's fair to say that this is what we can expect on an alien world with advanced or different technology than our own. |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 05:53:08 I told it to show me an Audio Goddess from the future holding an amplifier from that time.  Clearly we need to apply this technology to digital audio playback! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 05:56:38 You have to wonder... is there a genome programmed into AI to go back and distort something so that humans can tell it's not real? How many fingers do female Audio Gods actually have? Hmm... maybe that is why they are Gods. Probably can play a wicked piano. I mean really... there is no way you can get the face and everything else this right and then just forget how to do hands? |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 03/24/24 at 06:02:53 Here she is again...  Less than 2 minutes... If I ever saw her in real life on the street I would probably shit my pants. It would be too much to process. Hope like hell it doesn't happen because it certainly looks like it could! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by JBzen on 03/24/24 at 14:16:06  Some familiarity with those AI generations of a women with that of the picture above of Jodie Foster. Ha! |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Kamran on 03/24/24 at 17:28:12 Took inspiration from Steve and asked Copilot to come up with a combo picture: 
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by Steve Deckert on 04/05/24 at 00:05:49 I have done several rounds of these fantasy amps in 4K resolution and made videos of them: https://youtu.be/jqxVG-QjHXs?si=vKwiFqJ_ubOgYeiD |
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Title: Re: Fun with AI audio gear Post by LiquidBlue on 04/05/24 at 08:17:36 I was just thinking that it was just 1985 when Weird Science came out and here we are at phase one of creation. …and we (hopefully) aren’t even wearing bras on our head! Seriously though, I’ve been a bit pessimistic about AI, but I guess I need to learn how better to embrace it. |
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