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https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl AUDIO FORUMS >> General Discussion and Support >> Who are DECWARE customers? https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1653183656 Message started by Steve Deckert on 05/22/22 at 02:40:56 |
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Title: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Steve Deckert on 05/22/22 at 02:40:56 The wonderful thing about this community is that it extends beyond boarders, race and politics. It's just people who love seeing how good they can get music to sound. Here is a screen shot of the past 30 days of activity on the new part of the website. The new site has it's own tracking built-in.  click to enlarge So now that you all know where each other lives, let's have a party! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 02:53:40 Quote:
Tracking? Sorry, not a fan. Are you serious? If so, I'll be deleting my profile. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Donnie on 05/22/22 at 03:00:40 Archie, I don't know how to break this to you, the "Man" knows every key stroke that you make on any device. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by CAJames on 05/22/22 at 03:05:30 FWIW every web site you visit "tracks" you whether or not there is a cool geolocated dash board. For security if no other reason. If you seriously don't want to be tracked don't open a browser. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Brian on 05/22/22 at 03:30:42 Very interesting to me that South Korea appears to take more interest in Decware than does Japan. What do the circles represent? Brian |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Giggsy on 05/22/22 at 03:37:41 Archie, One word VPN. I would be interested in seeing a map based on order location. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 03:52:53 Quote:
I'd expect nothing less from Big Brother's head of the Ministry of Truth but now he seems to be publicizing it. And what happens when he's hacked? Maybe you all are fine with this erosion of your "civil liberties" but I'm not. I think we all need clarity on what the blank is going on here. Full disclosure so we can make decisions on whether to stay under these surveillance conditions. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by MyBlueSky on 05/22/22 at 04:20:49 Anyone with a website can log the IP addresses of visitors. All businesses do it to analyze site traffic. I’m sure Steve isn’t using it for a nefarious world domination plot. I think he’s simply enjoying discovering that his small, family business is becoming a global audio phenomenon and thought that we would be happy to see some interesting data. I get that you’re unhappy about the state of our “surveillance state.” It happened in 2001 when they pushed the Patriot Act on us. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Carlsbad on 05/22/22 at 04:48:20 Question is how many are bots and scammeres? See the dot in kenya? Three weeks ago I traced a scammer to a Facebook account in Kenya. She was trying to sell an SE34 amp from a photo she found on reddit. So that explains that dot. Jerry |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by CAJames on 05/22/22 at 04:53:50 Quote:
Only if she visited some of the new product pages in addition to joining the forum. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Dr3wman on 05/22/22 at 05:01:16 This is pretty fun to see, how far a little company in Illinois can have its reach extend, |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Dr3wman on 05/22/22 at 05:09:06 Steve, you’ve likely addressed this, but I would imagine you will be/are slowly migrating the whole site over to the new one? |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 05/22/22 at 05:19:56 We all know we are tracked. End of story. I am curious about those little dots in the ocean. Island love? |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 05:58:03 Archie, perhaps you should take it down about 3000 notches. Each post literally says "IP LOGGED" at the bottom of it. Learning that a webmaster has the ability to track a user's IP address is hardly revelatory. It appears that Steve's mapped most of the Western World. It's hardly like he's publishing photos of you listening to Herb Alpert in your living room. Heavens, a guy tries to post something fun and lighthearted--like a map of his freaking fanbase--and folks start clutching their pearls and loading their diapers. Archie, how can anyone take your proclamation for privacy seriously if you're surfing the net in the 21st Century without a freaking VPN? Full disclosure on what's going on? You're frighteningly naïve and out of touch with the basic workings of technology. Surveillance conditions? I bet Steve got a chuckle out of that one. TRIGGERED!!!! SAD! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 06:14:35 Bluemage, PM sent. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 06:17:42 I guess I'm in a minority here. Yes, I am ignorant of how the Internet works I guess. But I'd rather lose my privacy out of ignorance than willfull complicity as so many here seem to embrace. I have just two words for you all, Baaaaa, Baaaaa! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 06:19:53 Archie, FULL DISCLOSURE ON WHAT'S GOING ON: I found your private expletive-laced diatribe rather amusing. and here's my prescription for you: kick back with some more Herb Alpert and remain calm whilst Steve frantically tracks your every move. If you still feel ill-at-ease, simply clutch your pearls even harder and retreat to a safe space. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 06:29:51 IDK Blue but "blank off" doesn't seem to qualify as an "expletive-laced diatribe" but you are the judge on how you view things. And don't drag Herb Alpert into this. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 06:36:57 Big brothers, ministry of truth, demanding full disclosures, multiple uses of the word blank...yeah...you've definitively exhibited an expletive-laced diatribe. You seem rather unhinged. I take comfort in knowing that certain people have logged your IP address. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 06:41:33 Steve, we've gotta get some Decware gear into Alaska. If nothing else, to curb the suicide rate! Lots of depression up there. Perhaps, they just need some high fidelity. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by BicycleJoe on 05/22/22 at 10:08:43 https://youtu.be/6uqPBZncL5Q |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/22/22 at 17:42:42 Quote:
I'm with you on the sentiment. I'm sure its not Steve's intent at all, but its still troubling that just another set of eyes so to speak in whatever form is added on top of the huge heap. And you're right, in general terms too many are all too ready to trade safety for security, and worse yet, convenience. They are ignorant and have no idea what's coming., and they're happy to be that way. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/22/22 at 17:47:54 Quote:
smoking dope isn't the answer. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Steve Deckert on 05/22/22 at 17:51:41 Your ISP (internet service provider) tracks every keystroke, every page that pops up on your computer, how long it it took to load, how long you looked at it, anything you clicked on and anything you've typed unless it was encrypted. This is called a server log. It has been done this way since the 1980's when the internet's World Wide Web was formed. This information will be used against you in court by your own government if it serves their interest. For example, if you are accused of a hate crime, and you looked at guns or extreme organizations prior to the crime, they will show the jury the date and time you looked at it, the actual guns, actual clubs, anything you typed or texted, the porn and anything else they can to discredit your character. This traffic location chart simply tracks an IP address. It doesn't know you name, the color of your house, what kind of underwear you have on... those privileges are reserved for Google and Alexa. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 17:58:01 Quote:
Thank you for making my point better than I ever could. Quote:
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lol, I completely missed that inference. I thought he was referring to Herb Alpert who's music I happen to have a lot of. I thought it was some kind of cultural dig. I guess I'm not surprised that he was referring to doing drugs. Quote:
Steve, thank you for your clarification. Given the quote at the top of this post I hope you can see why I raised a concern in the first place. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Steve Deckert on 05/22/22 at 17:59:28 Quote:
BTW, I'm not blanking tracking anyone. The web servers do this, and google analytics do this. It is already done, and is done on every web site. You can choose to look at this information or not. It's not something I created or perpetuated, I just God Forbid tried to share something positive with the Decware family. Steve  |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 18:45:37 Quote:
Uh oh, there's another "expletive-laced diatribe"! ;D Once again, thank you for the clarification. Personally, I have no idea how the Internet works and probably would be much better off without it. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 18:52:02 Step 1: Join an audiophile community where the master architect / head engineer actually interacts with his customer base. Step 2: Lambast said engineer with audacious conspiratorial claims that are highly illogical, if not laughable. Step 3: Head engineer offers logical explanation that's otherwise obvious to 99.9999% of Decware forum users. (Spoiler alert: he can tune an amp, but abolishing your inalienable rights is outside of his wheelhouse). Step 4: Continue breaking his balls. Astonishing. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 18:57:36 Step 5: Be a clueless ass-licker. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 19:01:07 ...says the man demanding a "full disclosure" on Decware's "surveillance conditions." Sorry, Arch; I just can't take you seriously. You're either paranoid, deranged, or sporting a staggeringly low IQ. Quite possibly, all 3. SAD! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/22/22 at 19:03:53 Please, no more. :'( You are too powerful with your words. I yield to your superior intellect. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 19:04:38 Archie: Please, show us on the doll where Steve's customer map touched you. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Donnie on 05/22/22 at 19:04:46 OK guys, time to calm it down. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by s3steve on 05/22/22 at 19:33:41 I'd be more worried about the IT guy at the your work place! :D :D I'm actually surprised Decware has made this big of an impact worldwide. I thought it was just me and a few other guys! ;) Just goes to show you a good product sells itself. Of course with the help of the internet. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by JBzen on 05/22/22 at 19:38:36 Wow what an exchange! All I can say is if one lives off grid(in the woods sustained by the woods) one can not be tracked. Go to town and get some supplies and one can be tracked. Being paranoid is a waste of energy. Interesting map of Decware interest. Congratulations Decware! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/22/22 at 20:45:54 Quote:
thanks for explaining |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Sarah on 05/22/22 at 21:18:57 *eats popcorn |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Carlsbad on 05/22/22 at 21:25:36 I'm as conservative-anti-big-brother as it gets and this isn't where we should be worried. Not even a little bit. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 05/22/22 at 21:32:00 Thanks, Carlsbad. I have actually been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty. Do you have a minute? ;D With ya, Brother! Where are we now? EDIT: Oops, Politics! I'm done! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 22:17:51 My sentiments exactly, Carlsbad. Crying to Steve about the Orwellian state of our Republic is about like crying to your leftist Congressman about the crap sound coming out of your Chinese Communist Party amplifier. File your complaints with the entities capable of addressing them. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 05/22/22 at 22:26:14 Bluemage wrote on 05/22/22 at 19:04:38:
I'm sorry, but this is just so incredibly disgusting, purely offensive, ghastly, hurtful, un-called for, obnoxious, baiting, repulsive, and abhorrent (I might need a thesaurus soon) that I am just going to have to laugh my blanking ass off!! It's starting to bind my ribs. I'm also wondering if Archie is having a laugh at how his comment has escalated. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 22:31:51 That map grabbed him by the peter and twisted like it was a rusty faucet. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 05/22/22 at 22:39:38 I can see both sides of an issue. One side says we don't like what your saying the other side says piss off. Just for the record Bluemage PISS OFF with the piling on man the coach already explained himself. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Geno on 05/22/22 at 22:40:45 What Donnie said… |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 05/22/22 at 22:46:28 Agreed! Not raising a flag here, but I just clapped once due to comedy. I love the map! Let's just enjoy it. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Kamran on 05/22/22 at 23:01:27 Well, thanks the comic relief folks, I really needed it. Sarah’s response was my favorite! Let’s all calm down and enjoy our respective music. That map is something else. It opened my eyes to Decware’s reach throughout the world. Thanks for sharing Steve! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bluemage on 05/22/22 at 23:07:59 I'm not concerned with your record, Jec, so perhaps, you should just about yourself. Heaven forbid that my having an opinion would trigger so many delicate (fragile as a glass bird) sensibilities. I'd be happy to engage indefinitely in this (low energy) discourse, but I'll respect Steve's forum and bow out of this thread. Have a lovely evening. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/22/22 at 23:25:55 Nice to see the near field and the far flung Decware-scenti all in one mapping. Does this mean that Decware is getting dangerously too big? Their reach too world-enveloping? Are we going to witness Steve becoming like Citizen Kane, where at the end of the movie we hear him mumbling "Rosebud! Rosebud!" and the camera zooms in on a 1928 tabletop radio with Rosebud hand painted on top that he's never told anybody about? Maybe not. With this mapping, I think the better inspiration would probably be a movie like Around The World In [SE] 84 [UFO] Days. Anyway . . . Hallo! to you four fellas in Malaysia awaiting Audio Nirvana, and you in Honiara, Guadalcanal Island, and the three at the top section of Norway relaxing in their outdoor 38°F 'warm tub', and that resourceful person in Iceland who's going to power the new amplifier from a hot spring generator in the backyard. And - Howdy! to all Decware folks living in States or Provinces having names that start with a capital letter! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Burgermeester on 05/22/22 at 23:39:37 TWO YEARS LATER... Living room of a run-down, California ranch-style home. 2-3 people stand around drinking Ripple. There's a coffin on sawhorses at one end of the room. Knock on the door. One of the drinkers opens it, unsteadily. DHL GUY: Got a package here for Burgermeester! Hey, you like Decware huh? ME (Sitting up in my coffin): God blanking damn it! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/22/22 at 23:46:23 You've only got two years left? I can think of a lot of things other than an amplifier I'd get if I only had that long. BTW - There are two other threads co-opted for wait time grumping already. I think it's obvious that a few people here have some serious issues, existing long before Decware or Decware forum members intruded upon their non-existing happiness. Can We Please Stay On Topic Of The Original Post? Thank You! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 05/22/22 at 23:58:00 Edsonic, very clever. I'm talking about the Rosebud and other movie reference. Thank you. We needed that. ... also for your recognizing those many and few in far away lands. Only wish we could all share a fire and some music. There would be nothing to fight about. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Mannytheseacow on 05/23/22 at 01:53:41 [color=#cccccc]“The wonderful thing about this community is that it extends beyond boarders, race and politics. It's just people who love seeing how good they can get music to sound. Here is a screen shot of the past 30 days of activity on the new part of the website. The new site has it's own tracking built-in.”[/color] So cool, Steve! Thanks for sharing ! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Earthbound on 05/29/22 at 17:19:24 Ministry of Truth! I always felt 1984 should be required reading in high school Archie. It sends an important message. The circles look like the nuke map website! Yikes Glad to see some humans embracing quality sounding music and focusing on the good things life and this world have to offer. Now Steve needs to set up another shop in Europe and cut this waiting list in half! Lol |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/29/22 at 17:29:57 Quote:
Unfortunately, what Orwell wrote as a warning is being used as an instruction manual. :'( |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by EdwardT on 05/29/22 at 17:42:28 After watching a couple of years of Eurovision I wonder what the lone customer in Iceland is listening to… |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/29/22 at 18:21:39 Quote:
Clear, concise, and absolutely accurate. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/29/22 at 18:24:29 Quote:
Thank you for that post. You are dead nuts right. And it’s great to know another one to repel the living hell that’s been unleashed upon us. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/29/22 at 19:43:41 I'm not seeing the connection between the book 1984 and the commercial intrusion of privacy in practice today. In that book, Big Brother referred to a totalitarian government. In today's corporate implementation, behavioral surveillance is literally in your pocket via "smart phone," in your house via "smart" TV, "smart" lights, doorbell, garage door, washing machine, etc, in your computer - if its ever connected to the internet, whole house monitoring and surveillance via Google Home, Alexa, et al. Dept. of Homeland Security and National Security Agency will share what relatively limited information they have with LE or other relevant agencies. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Chrome, etc. -each- have 1,000+ times more info on you than the above government agencies combined, and sell that info to thousands of businesses who pay a subscription for it. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by piezoman on 05/29/22 at 23:06:43 Total ignorance on display. Wow, holy blank. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Dana on 05/30/22 at 18:36:47 How did you get your signature to say Posted by: piezoman - Ex Member? It doesn't state how many posts you contributed. The first step to removing oneself from the evils of intrusive technology [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Donnie on 05/30/22 at 21:42:21 The secret to getting that kind of moniker is to berate other members and discuss your political beliefs here after you have been warned not to. Either play by the rules or play somewhere else. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by lazb on 05/30/22 at 21:52:30 a shame Donnie had to act but delighted that he did |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by JD on 05/30/22 at 22:10:24 Edsonic, Thank you for making sense. JD |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/31/22 at 00:13:25 Well, he pushed the "line" but now we are on the slippery slope. Watch what you post. BTW, some may have heard the old saying, "Power corrupts . . ." God help us if some here ever get "absolute power!" |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 05/31/22 at 00:41:16 Well anyone else on the list getting a MK5 and has all the Decware gear and Cryotone tubes that will answer all of my questions? Oh boy from a purely selfish position. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/31/22 at 00:55:58 JD, You're welcome, and thank you for your kind response. I just got tired of the nonsense of having an issue that is 100% from the private sector being clumsily dragged into the realm of Big Government, Big Brother, etc. It's worse than disingenuous, it's outright dishonest. Next: Quote:
Maybe you consider repeated unprovoked putrid insults to one of the forum's most valued contributors 'pushing the line.' I feel reasonably assured that many here considered it exceedingly vile and mean spirited, not to mention tacky and puerile. And utterly tiresome. Quote:
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by effluviography on 05/31/22 at 01:16:36 One of the few people who didn't seem to understand that this is an audio forum. Thank you Donnie. I tried to remind him of this several times and all he did was trash me and call me a rat. Now that the tornado warning is over here, I can listen to some music. Cheers to you all - Scott |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/31/22 at 01:18:45 Ed, I missed your post above and only just now read it. I think the mistake you make is that you don't seem to think that the corporation and government surveillance are connected. They are hand in glove. And no one denies that this is an audio forum but a lot of the fun is in going off on tangents that may be off topic and non-audio. I'm worried that while you know who was arguably out of line and perhaps extreme, the slope is well greased and completely subjective. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 05/31/22 at 01:24:37 But Archie, we should watch what we say. Steve has made it clear, by placing a sticky on each forum here, that this is to be a place where politics are not welcome or discussed. Talking about property taxes as a tool of oppression, or government and corporate surveillance, IS talking politics. We should watch what we speak of, and those are areas we should not be speaking of. I agree it's fun to go off on tangents, but we shouldn't go off on tangents that lead to discussions of politics. And . . . we're living in a political world, politics can be reached by many tangents. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Archie on 05/31/22 at 02:36:08 That's clear enough. There are many ways of touching on politics. I certainly don't like personal attacks and aren't trying to defend them in any way. I just see politics as too broad and subject to too much interpretation to ban as a topic. Honestly, I'm getting bored with the fragility of so many. While not exactly shadow-banning, what's happening here seems to me as bad. When it becomes necessary to watch closely everything you say so as not to offend, because so many are so easily offended, then maybe it's time to find other pastures. I am just a guest here and maybe I've overstayed my welcome. This Forum used to seem like a place to relax but for me anyway, that time feels like it's passed. Oh well, given the two to three year wait, it's not like I'll be buying more Decware anyway. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by CAJames on 05/31/22 at 02:56:06 Quote:
pol·i·tics /ˈpäləˌtiks/ noun the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power. I don't see how that overlaps with discussing audio in any way at all. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 05/31/22 at 03:07:32 Well Archie it's Steve's house and its HIS rule. As I said you can go off on a tangent that will be political or will become political and there's a mindfulness requisite to stay within the rules. I wasn't even aware of the rule til last year and when I did become aware I strove to toe the line. It hasn't been as much fun here, in my opinion not because of the rule but because of the flaunting of it. Not my rules, but the host's. I fully expect to honor the rules of a host or not visit or expect a dressing down. . . . We don't want you to go anywhere, it seems really pretty easy to steer clear of topics that are political or lead to politics. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Earthbound on 05/31/22 at 03:22:01 It doesn’t. When people are active in forums and spend a lot of time discussing things and becoming friendly with them, content expands. I see it in the watch forum I’m active in and certainly the Harley forum I used to visit. People are people. It seems inevitable. But, rules are rules. It’s a shame to see anyone who is quite active go. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/31/22 at 03:57:45 He was quite active with the personal insults, no question. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Donnie on 05/31/22 at 10:44:43 To be honest, I didn't want to do it, but it had to be done. Personal attacks on other members is what truly pushed things over the edge. Discussion can and will move "Off Topic" and yes I understand that there are many different opinions here, and that will be respected. But please don't attack each other. Donnie |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Tony on 05/31/22 at 13:57:21 Hi Donnie, It was a tough decision to make on your part, and as a daily reader and sometimes contributor to the forum, I much appreciated it. Thanks for stepping in when it was necessary. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 05/31/22 at 14:04:12 Guess Donnie went into battle red mode.  |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Edsonic on 05/31/22 at 14:48:59 Yes, for those who like a heavy element of WWE in their audio discussions, this is truly a sad day. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Sean on 05/31/22 at 17:00:04 Rules are rules, rules have consequences when not followed...I'm looking forward to being able to feed my curiosities here peacefully without getting "triggered". My view on websites tracking is this: when used nefariously I hate it. However, the sheer amount of tracking info out there just may lessen the value of that info? |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 05/31/22 at 17:01:42 Earthbound wrote on 05/31/22 at 03:22:01:
I maintain that it can be easy with some thought before posting. I am a daily poster on two music forums where political discussion is forbidden. With a bit of practice and forethought very varied and spirited conversations can be had that do not have to involve political themes. Of course for some in this time politics is a part of all their thoughts and activities. Those persons who cannot post without moving into political postings arguably aren't a good fit here. And of course bullying and insulting should not be tolerated, that's not a part of civil discussion and information sharing. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Earthbound on 05/31/22 at 20:03:11 I agree Lon. “It doesn’t” was referring to the definition of politics posted and how it is t related to audio material. You’re absolutely right. Just have some restraint and certainly don’t make it personal. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 05/31/22 at 20:08:52 Gotcha, I interpreted that wrong. Agree. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by GroovySauce on 05/31/22 at 21:38:47 Quote:
I'm only a few spots behind Brad. I have a full set of Cryotone tubes, 0A3-WC, 12AU7-WCL, ECC88-WC, 5U4GB-WC, KT77-WC and 0C2-WC however the 0C2 isn't applicable to the MK5. My MK5 broke the 200 spot in the list so I'll have some feedback for you once it arrives. I also have a bunch of other tubes to try. Sophia Electric EL34, GL KT66, Tungsol 7027a, Shuguang 6CA7, JJ 6CA7, and others. I'll run it with the stock tubes first. After that I'm most likely going to run EML 5u4g, GL KT77, EH Gold Pin 6922, Westinghouse 0A3 (Or Cryotone 0A3) I don't have a CSP3 or CSP25TH. I did have a CSP3-25th once upon a time. Where are you in the queue? |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 05/31/22 at 21:55:03 GroovySauce, #10 on the list. Looking to build a second system using the Mk5. Using F15's and a W15 with my Schiit system. Thanks for asking. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by GroovySauce on 05/31/22 at 22:32:27 Joseph, What is your main system? I'm keeping my MK4 for a second system. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/01/22 at 05:09:54 Pi4> Schiit Bifrost2> Freya+ >2 Aegir >Klipsch RP-600M> F15s and a w15 Still need a lot of gear for the Mk5. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Bottlehead on 06/01/22 at 07:52:08 Donnie for President. (I don't mean that politically). Randy |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 06/01/22 at 13:22:59 0C2-WC . . . is Wathen now cryo treating this tube type? |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by GroovySauce on 06/01/22 at 13:30:37 Quote:
Looks like a solid system to me. What's the plans with the MK5? Quote:
Yes. I emailed and asked. They sent me an invoice. If I recall correctly they are the same price as the 0A3. Took 10 days to get them as they needed to process them. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 06/01/22 at 13:38:13 Thanks. I'll make an inquiry on other tube types then. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by safebelayer on 06/01/22 at 14:26:20 Steve starts a thread which immediately heads in a direction that invites political/philosophical discourse. One member sends a vile PM to another, then more discourse, Steve gets his tender feelings hurt and swears at the room, others contribute, a member notes ignorance of another member and then gets kicked out. Tell me more about the justness of this final action. Please, help me understand how saying someone is ignorant violates good taste beyond that of the company owner being foul in a forum entry or a member privately telling another member a vile comment? Maybe he should have followed the lead of the company owner and used an f-bomb. Much classier. Rules! What rules? Were the room attendants feeling unsafe? Maybe it's time for a new product, the "Zen Tissue". |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Lon on 06/01/22 at 15:42:48 safebelayer wrote on 06/01/22 at 14:26:20:
All I'll say is that I believe there was more than this thread taken into account when this decision was made. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/01/22 at 20:35:05 GroovySauce, Guess I'm looking to build a more resolving system. Have lots of plans and a budget. Going to mock up some Lii silver 10's next. At the point where getting the amp would help out since it's a unknown for now. Don't want to derail this thread with all my audio plans. Thanks for the help, expect some question down the road. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 06/14/22 at 15:24:54 Hey, JEC, I am curious about your Klipsch RP-600M, experience. How long have you had them? Do you have the newer model with the "II" ? I bought a pair when I still worked at a big box store a few years ago, but after three days I boxed them back up, due to "shouting" at me. I bought them because I liked the sound in the showroom when compared to Martin Logans, B&W, Definitive, few others which mostly sounded like they all had colds to me. Those on display had been broken in for months, though. Mine are basically brand new, but shelved in my attic for now. I keep thinking I should pull them out and just burn them in for a few weeks in the garage, but I have so much to work through. Still waiting for a chance for a second try with those. What kind of music do you enjoy? I play mostly jazz from the '50s, '60s and '70s with rock from the '60s,'70's,'80s era. Occasionally some classical. I am used to an open back sound for about twenty years now. I also have a pair of La Scalas, too, but I don't like those much either. They haven't made it to the attic yet. Too heavy. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/14/22 at 21:37:45 Hi Same Old DD, Had them 14 months the original model. They were bright at first but they broke in nice after a month. If I tow them in pointed at my listening position they can be "Shouting". Just have a slight toe in and that works well. Like them a lot, but most of my listening is done on F15 baffles. They have that V-curve going on so they are weak in the mid-range. They are fun with all genres of music. Got a good deal on them. Few people offered to buy them if I ever wanted to sell them. Going to give them a rip on my new Torri this week. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 06/14/22 at 22:11:56 'grats on the Tori!! Maybe that's what was fighting me. I'm kind of used to near field monitors that work well pointed directly to the listening area. I moved them around a lot, but I was still pretty close to direct. Thanks. Probably should get them back down and break them in a bit more. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/15/22 at 01:29:06 Same Old DD, In my room I found it's better to be at least 8 feet away. Didn't care for them in the near-field. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Same Old DD on 06/15/22 at 09:52:19 My room is small, too 12x14, so I am going to be close, as well. But, HEY! I have a dedicated room now. I just saw for the first time, that GR Research guy upgrading those same speakers, from a posting here with links to some vids. Very detailed vids. I mean he actually demonstrates how to twist wire, FFS. I don't remember who to thank, but you know who you are and Thanks! It kind of explains why I could not give them a fair shake down at the time I bought them. [smiley=10.gif] But honestly, in a super dead display room with close to 100 dead speakers in there making everything even more dead, the liveliness of those speakers stood out and I grabbed some. Enjoy your Tori!! Can't wait to hear more. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Palomino on 06/15/22 at 20:14:05 I haven't been to the forum in a while. I was wondering to myself the other day...given the greater popularity of Decware, will the Decware forum devolve into a place I no longer visit? So today I visited. Hmmm. Please keep this forum a place where open minded, and dare I say it, Zen music lovers can share ideas and discuss new stuff. Cool map Steve. And I really wish you could visit the Chicagoland dot and listen to my system/room. The addition of the cryo input tube has been the icing on the cake. I really have it dialed in now. One of the few products I have ever bought that still amazes me each time I use it. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/15/22 at 20:42:17 Palomina, Glad you did stop by today. You views are always something I take notice of. Thanks for your help. Read a response you wrote to a fellow member about F15's. You description was a 10 out of 10. Especially the comparisons between C10 and the F15. Big fan of the crown -W15 setup. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Palomino on 06/15/22 at 20:48:17 Thanks I'd stop by more but I am just in such a good place right now with my system I don't have any big yearnings. I will probably start looking for a new streaming platform or software. Audirvana left a bad taste in my mouth when they didn't address (or even respond to emails) about the Tidal skipping issue. The C10/AELO15s continue to be my go to speakers. Glad to be a dot on the map. |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 06/17/22 at 16:14:00 Palomino, Good luck with you streaming platform. Please post your findings. I'm a computer-crossover audiophile. I'm green to this tube world ( other than my families system from the 60's & 70's) Had many dacs and computer/streamers in a desktop setting. Nothing on the level some members have on the forum. Will say the last few years have been eye opening. Digital has sure improved. I'm using a simple setup. Raspberry Pi 4 into a Bifrost2 Dac. Running Volumio OS on the Pi4 and using it as an endpoint with Tidal connect. Think the price went up for using Volumio. I'm paying $40 a year. They keep it up to date. It has been bulletproof for the last 6 months. Found this usb cable on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/115306099934?var=415332437973 Biggest usb cable I ever seen. It's Hot, but in the best way. Joseph |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by Sean on 07/12/22 at 23:17:58 Quote:
I was searching the forum for USB cable thoughts and opinions and came across this. Not sure how to "read into" this comment. Do you own that cable? Poking fun at it? Honestly, just looking for clarification. I recently got a Bifrost on loan, it's now mine. I was then loaned a Blue Heaven USB for a week or two. Sounds great, but I'm not able to justify the spendy price for a USB cable. Perhaps in due time, but just not in the cards for now. So, I real curious if anyone has one of the above cables. Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Who are DECWARE customers? Post by jec3504 on 07/12/22 at 23:30:40 Hi Sean, I own this cable. Compared to AudioQuest Forest it has more energy, not as flat. Just seems to put more life into the sound. Running it from the Pi4 into a Bifrost 2. Made a huge difference with my RP600Ms. It will do for now, until I upgrade my Dac. Still using it daily. Price was right, big stiff cable something to compare with others. Joseph |
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