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Message started by Steve Deckert on 06/08/17 at 04:14:21

Title: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Steve Deckert on 06/08/17 at 04:14:21

Purchased a couple new albums and based on the sound quality my system is capable of with good LP's, these were both disappointing.

The first one was Peter Gabriel "US" on RealWorld records which is a 3 LP 180 gram 45 RPM half-speed remaster numbered limited edition. I could only get down two of the five sides before I gave up. Bass heavy, and lack of transparency. Not what I was expecting and seriously disappointing.

The second one was Piano Guys "Uncharted" on Portrait Records/Sony Music Masterworks which is a single LP 180 gram 33 RPM pressing. Sound quality was better but still not opening up and lacked transparency. Pretty obvious it's a digitally recorded and mastered album as the album sounds just barely better than the MP3 stream from the internet.

Prior to this has been several similar experiences with new LP's where it sounds like it is mastered for CD and then dumped to LP for the novelty of it rather than for the sound quality.

There is no point to have records for the novelty of it. In both cases I could have gotten the MP3's to sound as good or actually sound better, and it's just proof that it doesn't matter how good the quality of the record is if the recording sucks, nor does it matter how good the quality of the recording is if the pressing sucks.

It makes me realize that wining the vinyl vs. digital debate will never be easy since a good DAC would actually sound better than many of todays pressing.

-steve [smiley=tunes57.gif]

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint
Post by AKABibbleup on 08/02/17 at 19:45:14

Hi Steve. Long time lurker/ future customer. Saw this thread isn't getting any love....

New vinyl can be hit or miss. I think the 2002 Classic Records reissue of US had some decent reviews and would be the preferred 45 RPM copy to own.

As an aside I just picked up a mint promo Quiex II copy of Laurie Anderson's 'Mister Heartbreak' for $7 which features PG on Excellent Birds (from 'So'). Anderson's version is superior IMO. Talk about OOBE out of body exp...

More Awful new vinyl:
- Ed Sheeran's + I'd attribute most of the awfulness to the Orange vinyl. Follow up 'X' 180g x 2 45 RPM was much better.

Skeptical about getting Sheeran's most recent as I have a feeling Ed is not quite happy with how his vision is translating (or 'being' translated) to recorded product for commercial release. He is way past due for a new producer (e.g.: George Massenburg or T-Bone Burnett)

New vinyl done right:
Bettye Lavette - 'Thankful and Thoughtful' 2x 45
Also heard the reissues of the first 3 ZZ Top releases were outstanding

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint
Post by Pappakap on 03/27/18 at 19:50:56

Any opinion on the pressings coming out of Jack White’s Third Man Records? They really push their in house produced vinyl and I’ve wondered how the quality is.

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint
Post by eag618 on 05/14/18 at 21:04:24

Thank you for that Steve, in my quest for 5 posts ;)

Title: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Steve Deckert on 05/15/18 at 04:46:41

Thanks for bump! Knowing which pressings to buy or to avoid is most of the game for sure. I changed the thread title to:

New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!

One of the most pleasant new finds recently has been STOCKFISH records. Direct Metal Mastering. Fantastic sound from every one I've heard so far.

Steve

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Acetone on 05/25/18 at 19:31:04

Anyone have input on the Vinyl release of The Wallflowers - Bringing down the horse
I'd like the Vinyl release but, do not want to be disappointed in the vinyls sound quality! Thanks - Ace

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Lon on 05/25/18 at 19:54:16

Ace, some info from owners here:

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-wallflowers-bringing-down-the-horse-is-being-released-on-vinyl-may-13-2016.512424/

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Acetone on 05/26/18 at 15:16:08

Thanks Lon, Yup I read this one. So, guess I will take a leap of faith and buy the 2x12 LP. I hope Lucy is well and recovered now. No fun to be sick for so long.

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Lon on 05/26/18 at 15:26:53

She's better Ace, not 100 percent, but better; she worked two half days this week and is hoping to get a lot of rest this three day weekend (lots of headphone listening for me!). It's been a crappy month . . . maybe next month will be better.

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by Crazy Bill the Eel Killer on 07/24/18 at 02:21:41

Hello Steve,
And others of course,
I have a lot of re-issues and newer records. Most are very good, but the majority are not as good as the original first pressing for what I see as a very simple reason. The older the original pressing, the older the original master tape, and they degrade over time. I have a LOT of early first pressings, and I always prefer them over the reissues. They sound alive in a way my re-issues ( MOFI, DCC, Analog Productions ) do not.

Because of this ( my thoughts of course ), I'm chasing first pressings of my fav. early classic rock recordings, and most of my re-issue stuff is heading for the auction block/

Understand and completely agree,

Cheers, Crazy Bill

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by litefootdan on 07/27/18 at 05:18:59

On a good note I have found 3 decent contemporary records that aren't disappointing. First off is an offering from Quality Record Pressings. Miles Davis' Some Kind of Blue (45rpm) seems to do a fine job. No complaints here. Second pressing is by Music On Vinyl. Ravi Shankar and Philip Glass' Passages. There is a lot of info in those grooves! And finally we have a most unfortunately posthumous record from Allen Toussaint. Pressed by Nonesuch the record American Tunes is rich with musicality. The most compelling of the three listed in my opinion. I can fully recommend any or all of these records.

Title: Re: New LP's that disappoint and those that don't!
Post by s3steve on 03/18/20 at 20:51:59

I just purchased Marcus Miller's Laid Black.
180 gm 2 LP set. Says 33 1/3 RPM. Once playing it seemed fast?
Lets try it at 45 RPM. ah that's better.
In fact is sounds great!

Just not so much at 33 1/3!

I really like this guy but not a lot of vinyl out there from him.

It didn't disappoint!!!