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Title: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/26/16 at 07:12:47 I have a very early version of the MG944s. Somewhere along the time of production a plinth was added to the design. Mine, they have no plinth. I had a friend over to listen to some music and I was told that my loudspeakers would sound better if they had a plinth instead of just standing on tile. They already sound good; however, to plinth or not to plinth? I look around and a company called Mapleshade make a thick plinth but they aren't cheap. So, to plinth or not to plinth. Would a plinth improve the sound? Somewhere in my distant future are some HR-1, but for now I have these. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by mark58 on 06/26/16 at 13:50:37 Here is your solution, for $120. I have these under my speakers and Sub Woofer in my main system. Do a search of this site and you will find much written about their benefits. Two Sub Dudes will get it done. Mark. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDudeII?adpos=1o1&creative=54989966161&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CJb6yODcxc0CFQIcaQod6GcMMg |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by DBC on 06/26/16 at 21:22:47 I use the Subdude Isolation platforms as well. I think you will hear an improvement especially since your speakers are placed on tile. I find the platforms help especially with bottom ported speakers. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/27/16 at 02:55:04 I may try these. Thanks. I just hope they don't suck the bass complete out. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by DBC on 06/27/16 at 15:16:21 Quote below can be found at this link: http://www.htguys.com/news/2010/12/5/auralex-subdude-video-review.html Quote:
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Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/27/16 at 15:40:02 Good info. As I found out yesterday my loudspeakers are not only on concrete/tile, they wobble slightly. Geez, how is that? |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/27/16 at 15:50:05 ok, consider this. How about a sheet of neoprene rubber, about 1/4 inch thick between the loudspeaker and floor? |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Archie on 06/27/16 at 16:28:54 If decoupling is the goal a sheet of neoprene alone wont do it since the frequency spectrum is so wide. There have been a lot of systems/approaches discussed on this Forum based on personal preference. They range from different footer types to platforms. I favor a platform that uses springs under my HR1s. The speakers will sway if they are bumped but they are effectively decoupled from the floor. I find that the bass response is tightened and boom and mush is eliminated. At first this can be perceived as a loss of bass but that is because a lot of what we hear as bass can be just feedback and noise. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/27/16 at 16:47:43 Archie, who makes the platform that uses springs that you use? |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Archie on 06/28/16 at 01:13:55 I made them. I put all of my amps, TT and speakers on them. Will, from the Forum tried one under his CSP3 and with some additional damping material found it improved his sound. If you PM me your email I can walk you though building a pair to try. It's an inexpensive and simple concept but you'll need a few tools. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by Matchstikman on 06/30/16 at 01:23:42 I just got a couple of Subdudes and put them under the MG944s. At first I thought the bass had been sucked out but then I started to hear things in the upper register. Strange. After a while I adjusted to the restrained bass. I think before the bass had been bloated. I played a few different things and everything sounds tighter than it was and not so wild. So, it is all good. Thanks for the tip. |
Title: Re: To plinth or not to plinth Post by DBC on 06/30/16 at 15:58:03 Often with speakers coupled to the floor (spikes through carpet or hard feet on tile) this will cause the floor to vibrate and that vibration is transmitted out to the walls. In other words the floor and walls are creating added low frequency noise via the vibration. This increases the noise floor in your room which tends to obscure delicate bass notes as well as micro-detail further up in the frequency range (Not So Strange). Thus the Bass is tighter / more distinct and you can hear additional detail higher up in the frequency range. Glad it's working out for you. |
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