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Message started by djeddie on 12/11/05 at 15:59:29

Title: Delta 12LF's
Post by djeddie on 12/11/05 at 15:59:29

Has anyone tried the WO with Eminence Delta 12LF drivers, either for home, car or PA use? I've got a pair that came to me incredibly cheap and I'm debating on what cab to put them in.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Eddie

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by bnew63 on 12/12/05 at 02:25:16

I used a pair of 12 inch eminence drivers that I bought from Parts express (they were a buy out item so the model # wasn't provided.
They sound great and go deep.Just angle the baffle and add two inches to the design.After biulding four WO's I've found that you don't need a massive x-max to get good bass.The LF's have close to the same specs as the eminence drivers I used so they should work fine. ;D The only thing that needs adjusting is the amount of polyfil.Fill to your tastes
Brian

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by djeddie on 12/12/05 at 21:21:08

Thanks for the reply Brian, I'm gonne give a try in the new year... I just hope i get a desk saw for christmas!

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by 60ndown on 12/12/05 at 21:52:22

djeddie wrote on 12/12/05 at 21:21:08:

Thanks for the reply Brian, I'm gonne give a try in the new year... I just hope i get a desk saw for christmas!

get something like this, its a much better tool to own than a table saw.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Skill-Saw-small-but-powerful_W0QQitemZ7570824325QQcategoryZ43600QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by J_Rock on 12/13/05 at 00:51:24

I don't know bout that 60! Table saw is prolly the best piece of equipment I own. I use it for absoluetly everything. A table saw and a miter box are all I need to build anything without molding or raised panels...

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by BigAir on 12/13/05 at 22:12:32

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Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by Braggi on 12/16/05 at 22:03:35

Table saw is good, but mine is kinda small. It's very awkward handling a full sheet on it.

I got one of these Eurekazone panel saw thingies for making the long cuts in full sheets:

http://cgi.ebay.com/eurekazone-panel-radial-arm-table-saw-jointer_W0QQitemZ7573335385QQcategoryZ20785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by gekster on 12/17/05 at 04:59:16

Let me guess 60
you don't have a table saw. You do pretty good work with a skil saw, just think of what you could do with a table saw.

The motor on mine went last week and I am lost without it.
I like jigs too. I have a rail guide for large sheets and extentions on my table saw.

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by 60ndown on 12/17/05 at 12:38:45

gekster wrote on 12/17/05 at 04:59:16:

been doing construction for 25 years, cant think of anything i could do with a table saw that i cant with a skill?

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by DirtDawg on 12/17/05 at 16:19:26

60ndown wrote on 12/17/05 at 12:38:45:

been doing construction for 25 years, cant think of anything i could do with a table saw that i cant with a skill?

I have to agree with you, to an extent. There is so much construction around here it boggles the mind. Where does all the money come from? I never see a table saw setup, anywhere. Portable chop saws or miter saws are very common.

The main difference in what they are doing and what I want to do is that they rarely cut large flat panels. The days of custom built-in cabinets in your home is gone forever. For mostly cutting boards to length a table saw is just more stuff to carry and setup and every cut is usually a "custom" length, anyway. At one point, when I built a lot of horn cabinets I had 2 table saws, a router table, a joiner, a table sander, and for full sheets a wall mounted panel saw like you see Home Depot using to precut plywood for you. [Buying that expensive toy was a mistake.] I was all set to punch some cabs out in the back corner of my dad's shop and I did build many identical cabinets.

The main thing I used the table saws for was when I needed to make many repeat cuts all identical. It is the best thing you can get for that. The wall saw was not really accurate enough to do repeat cuts, even after spending all day adjusting runout, squaring movements, and tightening all joints, a total nightmare. They just won't stay in adjustment for very long.

If I'm getting ready to make 1 or 2 sets of cabinets I would much rather have a good quality hand saw and a panel (square cutting) jig and spend the money on better cabinet materials. If I had money to burn (again), space to fill up (again), and more time to build stuff (again), a heavy duty industrial table saw, not a hobbyist or home owner type (like one of mine was), would be the first new tool I would buy, but double the cost because I would get all the accessories that you need to make it an all round useful tool.
:D :D

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by J_Rock on 12/17/05 at 17:40:09

The heavy Industrial Table Saw is King!

We ahd one at school that was fricken sweet. Made in Minnesota it had to weigh 2 tons. Its funny because the saw actually sank the foundation of the 12 year old school since it been there. it was originally level and the floor now slops towards the saw gradually.

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by 60ndown on 12/17/05 at 19:14:45

60ndown wrote on 12/17/05 at 12:38:45:

been doing construction for 25 years, cant think of anything i could do with a table saw that i cant with a skill?

eerrr....... except lots of exact repeat cuts .......quickly ;)

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by lunarlab on 12/17/05 at 21:35:20

I use my skillsaw to the enth degree.....but when I have a repeat cut or angle cut I use the tablesaw. I have a cheap King tools saw with the 58 inch rip fence. It has made my life so much easyer as I am building so many cabinets. I would hate to mark the same cut over and over for each piece. The time it takes to make a jig or set the angle on my skillsaw....:'( My new fence saves more time than I thought it could and cranking out multiples of the same cut is a brease....

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by J_Rock on 12/18/05 at 05:52:12

I hardly use a skill saw at all, its not that I don't know how, I built forms for cement with an 8 inch skillsaw for years. Its just that a table saw and sliding chop saw are all I ever need to do finish cuts. If I ever have to do repeat cuts, well, then its off to the CNC router and drop in a sheet. Tadah! Bada-Bing-Bada-Boom.

Title: Re: Delta 12LF's
Post by hannes on 12/18/05 at 15:56:53

Damn,

you guys make me jealous for sure! All I do currently have is
an "entry level" jigsaw and a wood market that will randomly
deviate for several millimeters from my specs when I ask them
to cut the wood for me.

Maybe I should start making enclosures from cardboard as with that super-mini WO posted here some weeks ago :)

Bye,
Hannes