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https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl AUDIO FORUMS >> D.I.Y. >> Ultimate Decware Accessory https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1794316906 Message started by JBzen on 11/10/26 at 13:21:46 |
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Title: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/10/26 at 13:21:46 Ever since laying eyes on Decware's site back in the late 90s I was drawn deeper into Steve's work. His site pictorial design kept drawing me back. He seemed to have a knack of turning my eyes over to my time, ears, and eventually wallet. He also offered a free set of plans for the Wicked One at the time. And so it began... I built a lot of his designs over the last 25+ years with information that is available on his site. Also I purchased kits and plans that are offered by him. I even waited 3 years for the SE84UFO25! Don't get me wrong, finding Decware helped fulfill a life long interest in our surroundings and workings of such. I don't have any regrets and started another project that was inspired by yet another visual of Steve's. The chimes in his listening room always stood out to me. It seemed odd to have a set of chimes in an audio listening room. The leather wraps made sense to stop unwanted resonance when playin music. I thought it was a just another pleasing visual of the artist in Steve. A couple of weeks ago I attended the Decfest in Oregon Illinois at the Stronghold Castle where the chimes were on display hanging from the spiral staircase going up one of the towers in the castle. There was a nylon tipped hammer provided to strike the chimes. It was a great experience just striking the long tube at the base of the steps then climb the steps listing to the resonance play out. ![]() This experience stuck out as one of the highlights for me during the fest. Still fresh in my mind after arriving home I remembered reading a blip in this forum of his journey with the chimes. A search began with finding the following: Quote:
I built chimes in the past with success. I was always attracted to chimes and the pleasant random tones created. My first set of chimes was inspired by a visit to the Gay Dolphin in Myrtle Beach SC. GD is a multi story store of patched together novelty items. It has a section of wind chimes from very large to small. Swept into imagination and just finishing a new workshop, I shorty build a set of four for each of my family members. The picture below is one on my back deck after 7 years of being beat by Pennsylvania's weather. ![]() The search began for pipe to build a set of Chakra and Solfeggio based chimes. It did not take long to find some brass tube from an old tavern's bar rail. This acquisition took some wild turns that turned out just prefect for my intended use of the chimes. I usually spend some time in the mornings to check out new offerings on Facebook Marketplace. If something gets my attention and is in good condition I'll save it and let it brew in the old noggin. If the item becomes more center in my vision, I'll send an inquiry and eventually make an offer. If the offer is rejected, 99% of the time I'll let it go. That is how I roll. The brass pipe offering showed scant pictures of it leaning in the corner of a stuffed storage room. He wanted $500 for it. I asked what size and lengths of the longer pieces. He replied it was 3" and the longer ones were 18' and 15'. Right away I'm thinking heavy .125 wall pipe used most likely for foot rest in the bar. At that price, I ran to meet up with him! ![]() Turns out that the bar was in the valley of my old tromping grounds as a kid. We precariously dug out the pipe. His dimensions were a bit off. It was 2" pipe. The longest was 15' and had a joint about halfway. Hesitating with the sale we worked out a lower price. After, we had a good conversation and reminisced finding common ground with mutual friends shared in the past. I loaded and cut some of the pipe to fit the 8' trailer. There is one more twist to this purchase that will surface later! It took a couple of hours to disassemble the pipe from couplings and fittings. Ended up being 114 pounds of brass with 57' of 2" tube and a bucket full of fittings. Just a small percentage over todays scrap price. A good fair deal. 60' of new tube today is $2250! ![]() What I did not shell out in money will be made up with labor. Two cleanings are done at this point. One cleaning with Dawn to remove dirt and oils and another with brass cleaner to remove tarnish. A third and final will remove light scratching after the tubes are cut and drilled. ![]() Pipes are drying after a good rinse. Years of use are evident with scratches and spotting from cleaning. The tavern owner said he took down the pipe after his cleaning crew retired. The spotting was cause by not properly removing cleaner after cleaning. Maybe the new crew did not meet his expectations! ![]() Time to take a break and play with the cats :) |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by Lon on 11/10/26 at 14:52:16 Great score on the local brass! A stroke of fortune there. I too was immediately drawn to Steve's work, in the mid-nineties. Chimes. . . I'm not drawn to, but I know you love projects and this is a good one for you. |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/11/26 at 11:41:09 Quote:
Sure thing Lon! I don't fret on missed opportunities just celebrate the ones that fall in place. |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/11/26 at 12:16:25 Lee Hite is an accomplished chime designer. His site can thoroughly lead a aspiring novice in building a successful set of chimes. The site is in-depth and complete. I used him on my first build. The site has changed a bit since then. Mainly navigation with familiar landings. His spread sheet for A4=440 was used to figure out the lengths of pipe for the 14 notes of this project. The editable excel file can be used to find out the length of pipe for any desired frequency taking into account the diameter(OD and ID) and type of material being used. ![]() He recommends to cut the pipe a little longer facilitating fine tuning to the exact frequency if desired. I cut mine about an eight inch longer. The pic below shows one possible layout of the cut pipe. The plan is to hang the pipe on each side of the LED TV in my room. I did a quick buffing of one of the pipes in the picture. Can you find it? ![]() Another possible layout.
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by Lon on 11/11/26 at 13:26:57 I'm not into chimes. . . but I'm into pipe organs and a very similar mathematics is involved in regards to creating notes. I am a descendant of a famous pipe organ builder on my mother's side, and her father was a cabinet maker who studied the science of wooden and sheet metal pipe organ pipes and made a few. And our family has a few of the pipes made by my great great great great great grandfather David Tannenberg. You have an involving bunch of tasks ahead of you. Enjoy! |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/12/26 at 09:03:03 That is interesting Lon. David lived just north of Lancaster PA. One of his organs is located in a Lutheran church in that city. Going to make a point of checking it out the next time I'm traveling in the area. I remember biking thru that city and seeing pianos on sidewalks. I even stopped and played a few cords. |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by Lon on 11/12/26 at 10:11:53 Yes, my father researched and wrote his first biography about him, and we traveled to Lancaster, Lititiz, et al when I was a lad. His biggest organ was restored in Salem, and the dedication ceremony honored my Mom and her sisters. I've pumped a few of the organs for an organist. Fascinating to have the connection.
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/12/26 at 10:26:48 The pic below is the list of target frequencies in the combined Solfeggio and Chakra scales. My working copy. ![]() The pipe is ground down to within 1/32" of the target frequency. String is strung thru the drilled holes then the pipe is hung for a final tuning. I tried using a phone app to set the target frequency. It did no go well with the first attempt. The 963hz pipe came up 1/16" short of the calculated length before the app showed any change in Hz which was much lower then the target. I was also using my ears with another app that played a sine wave target. Should have trusted my ears! Lee mentions on his site if an audio spectrum analyzer shows odd results then trust the measurements. ![]() Lee has an interesting way to mark the hang holes for drilling. He calls it the cigar band method. I'm not going to go into detail here. I used the drill press after marking one side of the pipe when building my first set of chimes years ago. Tried his method this time and it works just as well if not better. Matter of fact, building chimes can easily be done with a basic set of hand tools. Shop equipment makes it much less labor intensive though. Work area for fine tuning the pipe size and mark hang holes. ![]() I am thinking to do some maintenance on my grounding boxes and add some of this fine brass dust! ![]() Eight more pipes to do then figure how to hang the chimes in the Chariot. |
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Title: Re: Ultimate Decware Accessory Post by JBzen on 11/13/26 at 09:03:30 The chimes are all strung. That was a tedious process. Threading .014" 50 pound fishing line thru two 1/16" holes spanning a 2" inaccessible space was enough to drive me almost nuts! I persevered with determination led on by listening to the results when the pipe, now chimes, were hung and struck. Wow! I will need to work out some kind of apparatus because of the need to restring after the final cleaning or just drill bigger hang holes ::) The longest 174 Hz Chime has a sustain time of over 6 minutes. The smallest 963 Hz about a minute. Sustain time seems relative to mass of the chime and striking force. Some of the chimes displayed the wa wa effect. Not sure if it is because of the swinging created after being struck or differences in the welded pipe material. Time will tell on that one. Next on the agenda is to make two hanging systems, one strictly for display and another for play. |
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