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Message started by Steve Deckert on 07/03/24 at 16:34:24

Title: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Steve Deckert on 07/03/24 at 16:34:24

Make sure when you purchase a used mainstream amplifier from a private individual that it isn't a fake.

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Donnie on 07/03/24 at 18:27:35

So this begs the question.
What if I bought one of these cases and stuck in some cheap class D amp inside and sold it to some unknowing person, would they be able to tell the difference from the original?

A lot of people only buy the big high end stuff because it is expensive, and quite honestly don't even know what good sounding stuff sounds like.

How much they spent is the only thing that matters to them. And it is always more than YOU spent!

They are "Flexing" to the unwashed!

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Lon on 07/03/24 at 19:36:49

To that question. . . if you got real convincing cases. . . you'd spend more than enough money, a lot more than listed on this ad (whichever scam this is).

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Donnie on 07/03/24 at 20:57:52

I’m taking this as they are selling only the cases. I’m not thinking that they are selling the “guts”.

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Lon on 07/03/24 at 21:14:28

That's now how I read their scam. They want you to think you're getting the real article in full.

Edit to add: I see now it's clearly marked that these are just chassis. Wow. I never would have anticipated such a market but then I guess I should have.

Luckily I am not in the market for any of these brands or "facsimiles" of them. I have real deal components that end my envy for others.

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Steve Deckert on 07/03/24 at 23:54:36

Not a scam. Simply that in China the working class can't afford a Gryphon Amplifier, or an Accuphase preamp but they are nevertheless audiophiles like the rest of us so there is a large market for copycat amplifiers.

The number of empty chassis that I posted demonstrate the demand. And these are the actual prices of the chassis you can buy on Aliexpress right now. In addition to these empty chassis that anyone can purchase, they also have completed working copies of most likely every single unit pictured.

There is within this audiophile market in China not only near perfect fakes, but many have been 'upgraded' with improvements on the original designs so they not only get to have feel and look of a name brand amplifier that they normally couldn't afford, but some have the last laugh because they also sound better. They don't want the originals over there.

So, the point is when you see amplifiers listed used somewhere don't automatically assume it's the real thing.

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by hdrider on 07/04/24 at 15:38:43

Funny as hell to me, but I'm an odd duck. I like the ''Extra 5% off with coins'' note on the ads. Oh well, our rack o'Decware isn't going anywhere and we enjoy the heck outta our music. Happy 4th of July Decwarians, be safe and remember the reason. Happy listening.

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by Kahuna Jack on 07/04/24 at 18:56:59

Some of those are pretty cool ! If you're a hobbyist builder and want a "finished look" for your project you couldnt buy or have anything machined like that for those prices here in the states . Not from a trick you dishonest angle but for personal projects those are amazing.

If it weren't such a hassle to pot a tranny Id totally toss rounded corner transformer covers on my Decware pieces .

Title: Re: Caution buying used name brand audio gear...
Post by maddog07 on 07/10/24 at 22:50:25

I've have seen some advertising of "classic" components, and/or highly desirable components, where the seller, right up front states - it is a "clone" of xyz... yada, yada, preamp, etc. And you can find reviews of them on "the tube" also for some of them. And some claim... "they ain't bad"... ;D
I suppose a person with good electrical circuit, electronics repair, training/experience, could get a hold of "the real thing" and reverse engineer it and put their own spin on it....