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Title: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/13/23 at 06:04:17 I intend to document my journey with Sarah in this thread. Hopefully, it’s going to be warm, lively, and epic vs. being dry, flat, and criminally succinct. For now (it’s 1 am), please make do with a prologue. This is going to be a slow burn… |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/13/23 at 06:07:50 Prologue The one overarching thought during the past four nights of listening is that I must be an imposter. That somehow, I’ve nefariously cheated my way in to the world of high-fidelity audio. What have I (barely three years in to the hobby) have done to deserve this level of orgasmic fidelity? I have no business being here. I must be living someone else’s life, must be stepping in someone else’s shoes, must be experiencing someone else’s dream. Yet (in a sick twist of fate), here I am. What skullduggery is this? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by sgszen on 11/13/23 at 11:54:58 Great start! I have a Schitt Bitfrost MB from 2016 and I'm thinking about the KTE Spring 3. Sounds like you're pretty happy with the 300B / Spring 3 combo. Did you have the DAC in a different setup prior to the Sarah? Thanks |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/13/23 at 12:16:57 Quote:
You paid attention, cut through the noise and found the pure signal. YAY! or Karma? I'm looking forward to your exploration of what Sarah brings to your musical bliss. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/13/23 at 15:11:03 Glad you're done waiting and have started listening Kamran. I'm looking forward to following your journey. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/14/23 at 04:43:30 Thanks CA James and GS. Your feedback and kind words are much appreciated. Sgszen: Thx-I will try and PM you this week to address your question. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/14/23 at 04:45:08 The Wait For a person used to instant gratification, waiting almost 2 years is a paradigm shift of maniacal proportions. So how exactly did the wait pan out? How did impact my decisions regarding the rig? How did new developments along the way impact my trajectory? I figured that this was worth exploring as it speaks to how I got here. When I ordered the Rachel integrated amp on Black Friday of 2021, I had zero experience in tubes. All I had to go by was the uber enthusiastic reviews from Steve G. and Andrew R. and from whatever I could gather from the forum. I called Decware one fine morning probably a week before Black Friday, spoke to Sarah who was very kind and once she told me about the upcoming 10% discount on Black Friday, I was half sold already. Then, trying to address my technical question regarding whether 2.3 watts was enough power, asked me: Steve’s right here and he can answer your question—do you want to talk to him? Wait what! Me (a mere mortal) talk to Steve—the Steve! I remember being so star struck then, and to be honest, I’m just as star struck today. I thought to myself—Kamran, you better not mess this up! But, I shouldn’t have been concerned. Steve, in his calm professorial way, eased my rookie concerns about the low wattage given my high efficiency speakers. At this point, my instinct was screaming at me to take that leap of faith. So, I listened. A month later, when I got my Schiit Freya Tube preamp and fell in love with tubes, I knew I had made the right call with Decware, but I still hadn’t realized the full extent of the wait (twice the length of my original expectations). When the haze lifted, I tried my hand at the used market but failed multiple times. This eventually led me to research alternative options that mirrored both the experience and design ethos of Decware. My research led me to Dennis Had’s Inspire KT88 amp. It finally allowed me to experience what Class A sounded like and the opportunity to experiment with various tube types before settling on the GL KT77 and Sophia 274 combo. This made the wait so much easier as I was finally getting (and understanding) the beautiful tonality and expansive soundstage often associated with Decware amps. And quite frankly, I thought I had stumbled on to a keeper (and it is a keeper for many), so perhaps I was just wasting time still pining for a Decware amp. I mean, how could it better the sonic bliss I was already experiencing? During this time, Steve had already started to woo us with the Sarah development thread and I knew I needed to attend Decfest to really understand what the fuss was all about and if Rachel really sounded that much better compared to the Inspire. Fast forward to Decfest and a couple of songs in, I knew I was in trouble. Rachel was sweet, but not necessarily compelling enough to replace what I had. Sarah on the other hand—well she had taken my breath away, but based on the estimated whisperings during the fest, was going to cost more than double what I had set out to pay. While I was verbally agonizing over my options, another participant of Decfest 2022 laid out the cold hard truth: “Would you rather wait two years just to make a lateral move with Rachel or do you really want to shake things up and make it worth your while?” That question hit me like a ton of bricks and allowed me the clarity I needed to finally switch a couple of weeks later. Next challenge: How to pay for the damn thing? Let me say this, the desire for Sarah has instilled in me how to strategically save up and pay off a piece of gear, which is exactly what I did during the next 10 months—using the wait to my advantage. Monitoring my expenses like a hawk, I slowly chipped away at the total and one month before she was ready, she was paid off. Another advantage of the wait? Like a mother to be nesting, I wanted to make the rig worthy of receiving her. So I got dedicated circuits using cryo’d romex going in to cryo’d outlets, I decoupled all my components and got a killer rack (which is also decoupled with Herbie’s Gliders), and got even more room treatments. I bettered my existing cabling and got a wonderful power conditioner. Ever single upgrade made the rig sound better. Finally, it allowed the look of the copper transformer to grow on me as I wasn’t convinced initially. Thank God I made the decision to upgrade last minute! I was ready. The room was ready. But the Audio Gods had one final test in store. Sarah was out of QA right before Decfest. She would be on her way home while I was in Peoria. Well, that couldn’t stand. I had to be home to receive her, but I also didn’t want to miss Decfest. We had also started remodeling our house. The dust from the ongoing construction was the straw that finally broke the camel’s back. So I asked Sarah to hold on to Sarah—for a little while longer. That ‘little while’ ended up being an extra month… |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by nipsy on 11/15/23 at 01:51:06 I'm loving the story so far ! Excited to read more. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/15/23 at 04:44:52 Thx nipsy! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/15/23 at 09:52:55 Congrats Kam! Except for the knobs, my SEWE300B is identical in setup and it's so beautiful, you're right, so impressive! (I chose ebony knobs--I love the way they feel to the fingers). The 75C1 tubes are special, I am so glad Steve is sending them/sent them. They have a richer, more textured sound produced than the OC2 imo. I know you'll keep us posted on your sonic impressions. I'm still amazed daily by mine, received in July. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/15/23 at 13:02:50 This is great! You have really whet my excitement to hear you go into how it sounds! Keep it coming! Decware amps change and become more glorious the first few hundred hours of play time. Sometimes you get a brief taste of what is coming then it reverts back to the "new" sound. Eventually it's glorious from the get go. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Ghostship on 11/15/23 at 15:09:16 Congrats Kamran, I am excited for you! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/15/23 at 16:47:33 Quote:
So as soon as I got the tracking number I was obsessively checking the UPS site to watch the progress of my UFO25s. And on the scheduled delivery date they arrive at the local hub, get loaded on the truck but the status never updates to out for delivery. And I'm all WTF WTF. Since I'm getting the amps with no tubes I have all my tubes and socket savers laid out and treated with contact enhancer (like my clothes for the first day of school) but I'm thinking "something went terribly wrong...." Generally our UPS guy comes pretty late in the day so naturally as soon as I start making dinner the doorbell rings and I get my amps. Agree the Padauk bases are pretty special. Looking forward to the next installment... with, you know, listening . |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by nipsy on 11/15/23 at 21:17:57 For some reason, it's that last mile that really gets the juices of desire flowing ! I've been waiting a little over two years and it hardly seems like any time at all. Once it's in the shipping process is when I start to go absolutely nuts. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Ghostship on 11/16/23 at 00:16:35 Nipsy...I cannot lie, I did the exact same thing!! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 02:24:27 Thx Lon: I love the contrast of the black chicken head knobs on the chassis. I was taken aback and pleasantly surprised at how good the knobs feel. From the pictures, the chicken heads always felt a bit dated and gimmicky to me, but I am glad Sarah talked me in to it! Also digging the 75C1’s. Initially, I thought Steve was sending a combo of OA2 and OC2 and I had a bit of a panic attack half hour in to the listening session, thinking that I should have paid more attention to the placement of the VR tubes, but Steve confirmed that it was all the same tubes and order didn’t matter. Ghostship: Thx! I’ve probably read your review multiple times now (I went through it again, just last night) and I always glean something new. It’s the review that keeps on giving! CA James: LOL—haven’t you figured out that I am trying to buy some time with the long preamble? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 03:01:03 Tonight’s post is actually some items that I forgot to cover previously. 1) For some reason, I thought I was also getting the pelican case along with the amp. I kept looking in the box to gauge if I had missed unpacking it. Oh well, if I really need it, I can always purchase that later. 2) Originally, I was planning on hanging the Decware one year club t-shirt on a wall in the rig, but my eldest (who is also my audio buddy and knows my Decware journey) said that it was “FIRE” and that he wanted it. So, I gave it to him with a talk about how he should wear that shirt with pride (he get’s it). The things you do for kids… 3) For now I’m listening with the voicing switch set to the deeper soundstage and the speaker impedance set to high. It was brought to my attention by GrroovySauce and from Ghostship’s review, to try the low setting as it may sound better, even with hi impedance speakers. I definitely intend to explore both settings (for both voicing and impedance) 4) Speaking of speakers, one thing I forgot to add in my second post on the wait time, is the addition of Open Baffle speakers post Decfest 2022. Basically, I fell in love twice at Decfest 2022. Once with Sarah and secondly with the sound of OB. So I commissioned Randy to do his magic and ended up getting the Fast 15 drivers to pair with his baffles. That should also be considered as part of getting the rig ready for Sarah. 5) The other addition to the rig, which is recent and happened during my 2 month hiatus from music (while the renovation was in full swing), was the insertion of two new ground rods made of galvanized steel bonded with a copper wire to the main panel (NJ allows for multiple rods). Our contractor hadn’t found any evidence of existing rods and I was getting a sub panel in the garage for all the new wiring and figured that this was the best time and opportunity to work on bettering the grounding to the house. The only exception to the 2 month break was listening to the rig the day after the rods was inserted and I knew I had struck gold. There was a marked change in resolution, soundstage, blacker background, and decay. I am about 70 hrs in and targeting 100 by this weekend. My first sound impressions will follow. Stay tuned… |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Tony on 11/16/23 at 03:22:23 So, I gave it to him with a talk about how he should wear that shirt with pride (he get’s it). The things you do for kids… You sir, are a very good dad! :) |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Bottlehead on 11/16/23 at 04:14:01 Kamran, Thanks for sharing your journey, Randy P.S. Did you get Steve’s gizmo to go with the Fast 15s? If so, how did it affect the sound? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by nipsy on 11/16/23 at 07:44:53 Kamran, I am so enjoying this thread and the tales of your journey so far ! There are many resonances with my own journey. I've never heard the open baffle speaker but have been considering either building one from Steve's plans or having them made at Caintuck. Everything I've read here has really whetted my appetite. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/16/23 at 09:57:11 Kam, I do have a black chicken head knob on one of my ZROCK2. . . but the feel of the ebony wood knobs is just something I can't help but prefer. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 14:00:52 Thx Tony! Lon: Ah, I was confusing the cream chicken-head with Ebony. As I was confirming this on Sarah’s webpage, I noticed that Ebony knobs are no longer available. Wonder if that is a temporary thing or end of life? Randy: Thx! I have the network but it wouldn’t work on my previous amp due to the spacing of the binding posts and for now, it’s still sitting on the sidelines as I wanted to minimize variables during my evaluation process. nipsy: To the extent you have space (I would reckon at least 3ft from the front wall, if not more), I’d highly recommend you give it a try. Randy from Caintuck is a master craftsman. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 14:39:06 In this picture, Sarah from the top, sans tubes. driver |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 14:42:22 The beautiful copper transformer All tubed up! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/16/23 at 14:47:22 First glow And some more: |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by MikeinMontana on 11/16/23 at 17:51:01 Absolutely beautiful Kamran! You take great images too! Thank you for posting and please keep at it too! All the best~ Mike in the 'sticks' |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 11/16/23 at 20:16:32 This is fun Kamran. Beautiful amp! I guess you might be playing with your other settings and tubes on your ZBIT and Zrock2? But if not, might be worth experimenting some. This amp may prefer different input settings compared to your other amp. But also, burnin can sound better to me with different setups before the amp, and for me, these change as burnin progresses. I was reminded of this as I am burning in a new amp and tubes too. And for me, at different stages of the amp and tubes finding their sound, these pre/foundational settings and tubes are fun tools as the amp opens up, mine now near 100 hours I guess. I agree with Groovysauce the 1st 100 hours are important with the Decware amps I have had also, especially for more obvious ups and downs. But with my amps anyway, as I recall, I have still had some ups and downs up until 200-300 hours, then it smoothed into overall refinement for quite a while, mostly there by 600 or so. Don't know how your new 300B will be in this, but luckily, it probably sounded pretty great out of the box! Looking forward to more of your story. Will |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 11/17/23 at 01:16:42 Oh. I forgot you asked about what your 300B tubes were, and I can't see from the photo exactly, but they look like Guiguangs... As far as I know they are not making tubes anymore, but I have a pair of these, and they seem to me to be quite nice, clean sounding, while being pleasantly good value 300Bs. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/17/23 at 03:45:34 Those copper transformers are dead sexy. That is all. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/17/23 at 09:37:48 CAJames wrote on 11/17/23 at 03:45:34:
I have to agree. So glad I sprung for them on my SEWE300B. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by briand77 on 11/17/23 at 17:39:48 I was amazed at how orange the paduak appeared initially. It had an almost unnatural, flourescent quality. The color changes fairly rapidly. I had the exact same Sarah configuration: paduak, copper, and black chicken heads. I have 15 other boxes in my racks, and this is the only one that is not black or dark gray, so the copper makes a nice accent. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by LiquidBlue on 11/17/23 at 21:29:32 Gorgeous amp Kamran! Certainly love at “first glow”! Looking forward to your impressions as your amp seasons. ~VJ |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/18/23 at 05:40:15 Brian, I was instantly sold on Paduk the moment Steve shared the first wood base images a while back. It is so eye catching—a true statement piece. Love the contrast against my maple rack! LiquidBlue: Thx—stay tuned! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/18/23 at 05:43:26 The Tale of the Chattering Rectifier So the first two days of break-in, I kept hearing (in quiet passages or when the music was paused) a noise from the amp. At first I thought it might be the transformer humming, but upon closer inspection, it was the rectifier. Like something was vibrating inside. It was intermittent, coming and going as it damn well pleased. Again, I couldn’t really hear it until the system was dead quiet, but I knew it was there. Shot a quick video and sent it Steve, who was quick to respond and explained that this is a “Chattering Rectifier”. That it doesn’t impact the sound (and it didn’t) but we still don’t like to hear it. These are typically tested and graded out of circulation, but sometimes, tubes develop annoying shit for no rhyme or reason. He had Veronica ship out a replacement tube the same day with a return label to send the offending tube back. Talk about customer service. Two days later, when I received the replacement, the original rectifier seemed to have stopped chattering. Oh well, I wasn’t going to take any chances. New rectifier in-no chatter. End of story. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by briand77 on 11/18/23 at 13:29:44 My stock rectifier started chattering at about the 3 month mark, but I was getting ready to replace that tube anyway so it was not much of an annoyance. My WE 300B tubes both make intermittent pinging sounds for about 20 minutes after start up and shut down. I guess this is a known issue with these tubes, but I don't know how common it is. Supposedly it's not something to be concerned about, but it is annoying. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/18/23 at 15:00:11 Quote:
This is exactly why I think it is so important to have spare tubes on hand. Even if you aren’t an obsessive tube roller. Pass the candle. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by BlackBess on 11/18/23 at 15:01:23 My big Had always makes a tick sound (it seems only once) that comes from a WE300B during the first few minutes of warm up. It sounds like it originates from one of the tubes. The sound doesn’t play through the speakers. Even if the volume is already up with no source playing. Tubes almost appear to be alive. Sometimes I burp or even stutter. I hope my wife doesn’t try to replace me for a quieter model. My Shanling has transformer hum that doesn’t play through the speakers as well but is audible if things are quiet enough. I love mechanical clocks (watches also for that matter) and one is in my living (main listening) room. What’s with this tick-tock B.S. And Mr. CAJames, I think that goes without saying with tube amps. I dream of a buckle I’ll never put on. Ralph |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/18/23 at 15:15:18 Quote:
I have some tubes that do this. I think it's normal thermal expansion noise. I've ridden quads and dirt bikes most my life and they make a bunch of "tinging" noises after being shut off as they cool. I had a 60's RCA 5u4g that started to chatter really bad after a bunch of hours. That was a sad one. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/18/23 at 18:19:23 Yup, my KT77s also made the tinging noise upon startup and shutdown for about 5 min. I too, figured it was part of that particular tubes thermal expansion sonic signature. It was predictable and short lived. Didn’t bother me. This chattering was not predictable and occurring during critical listening, made it annoying. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 11/18/23 at 23:42:55 Looks good too! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by nipsy on 11/19/23 at 01:09:06 Gorgeous pictures of your set up ! I have a few questions for you. What's the function of the 3" maple slab and the risers that bring up the height of the amp ? Does this improve the sound ? Reduce interference ? How about the claw like things holding up the wires ? I've never seen that before. Your signature line indicates the Caintuck Audio Lii Audio Fast 15 speakers but I don't seen them in your photographs. I'm really curious how the 300B sounds with those speakers and how they look in the room. I've been debating about replacing my Klipsch Heresey's (original model) with the Caintuck/Lii Fast 15 combo as the Zen Master Series is a bit out of my price range and are likely a tad too large to please the significant other. I ordered the plans for the Zen Master but fear that I don't have the skill or patience to construct a good looking pair. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to read your review on the sonic qualities of your setup. Happy listening ! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/19/23 at 02:30:06 nipsy: It’s an isolation platform. This review does a good job of explaining it: https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/butcher-block-acoustics/ I also love the look of Butcher Block-so it’s both form and function. I’m OCD about reducing vibrations and the maple rack is just the starting point—will just leave it there for the moment. The claw things are cable lifters from AudioQuest. I’ve been so focused on Sarah (literally) that I’ve forgotten to take pics of the Caintuck Baffles. I’ll try to remedy that soon. Love Love Love them. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Gilf on 11/19/23 at 13:10:25 Congratulations, Kamran! I’m happy for you new acquisition and excited to hear your listening impressions. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by BlackBess on 11/19/23 at 17:53:19 Sir; all about titles? How about Dr. Racekam, a variation of Mr. Camshaft. I personally witnessed your overpowering presence at Decfest. I did a lot of listening at Decfest but I think I only talked to a few. Steve, his wife, Bob Z., Sarah & of course the lovely Veronica. Also several people while listening to music. I was so humbled in your presence to dare to make a peep. Racked by feelings of inadequacy. I now wish I would have at least said hello. You are a whirlwind! Rock on my friend, rock on. Ralph P.S. I was very impressed with the sound in Randy’s SRO shed with a 2.3 & open baffles. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by MikeinMontana on 11/19/23 at 17:53:42 Awesome looking system there! Klipsch and SVS too. [smiley=beer.gif] ...and these pics are fantastic with detail etc.. Will keep checking in on ya Kamron [smiley=thumbup.gif] |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by LiquidBlue on 11/19/23 at 21:21:58 Bravo! Most eloquently expressed! But dammit!! You could cost me a good chuck of change! Must. Resist. Impulse. 🤣🤣 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/20/23 at 03:33:35 Thx Gilf, BlackBess, and LiquidBlue. BlackBess, I am sorry we didn’t get to connect at Decfest. Next time, let’s do more than say hello! Let’s’ have a good chat! LiquidBlue: Resistance might be futile ;D |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/20/23 at 04:01:10 Kamran, your review, like Decware amps themselves, is well worth the wait. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/20/23 at 05:20:47 James, thanks so much for that wonderful compliment! Now, I’m awaiting your review! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/20/23 at 14:15:23 I guess mine is hidden in plain sight. https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1699677553/0#0 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/21/23 at 03:11:15 Oh my! Ok, in my defense: 1) I’ve been ummm, a bit distracted with Sarah 2) I did check the Reviews forum to see if you had posted, but didn’t check the UFO 25th forum Will respond there. Back on topic, I almost wished I had included last night’s listening session in my review after completing 130 hrs of break-in. I listened to probably 10 instrumental (mostly percussion) tracks from my playlist. It was another mind-bending level of refinement from what I described in my review. Speaking of break-in, I took Steve’s suggestion (from the UFO 25th development thread) to heart and have been utilizing a 5 hr playlist of Tibetan Bowl music to help the caps learn/settle. I figured why not? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/21/23 at 05:47:00 Some more pics including the baffle view for nipsy. Didn’t get to listen to my hearts content tonight but two tracks just floored me: Jeff Beck’s ‘Goodbye Pork Pie Hat’—ah well, let’s just say I was there at the live performance…what a trip! Moon Light on Spring River—Sound of China — can bass be subtle, yet deep into your soul authoritative? Might have a new PC tomorrow… upload pictures to internet free |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by LiquidBlue on 11/21/23 at 06:47:30 Great looking room Kam! I love how your Sarah is front and center commanding all the attention with her grace and beauty. Question, what is the bass trap you have in the corner? Do you find it to be very effective? Do you have them on the corners behind you as well? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by nipsy on 11/21/23 at 07:05:47 Wow ! Your review is quite heartfelt and insightful. The joy you're experiencing with your new amp is really a delight to experience alongside you. The listening space you've created is gorgeous and simple. Thanks so much for sharing the pictures, especially the Caintucks. Excellent choice of wood. Happy listening ! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kahuna Jack on 11/22/23 at 17:53:49 Kamran Im hoping that you at least gave it quick listen with the "mere peasant " LOL 8000f's ?? if only for curiosity sake ? I still find joy every time I put my 8000f's back into rotation. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/22/23 at 23:32:02 Kahuna Jack: Haha…the thought had crossed my mind. I also love my 8000f’s, which is why I didn’t get rid of them after securing the OBs. And they are in regular use as part of 5.2.4 HT setup. They are kick ass even without the two SVS subs doing rumble duty. Sadly, I’m so distracted with Sarah, that my HT setup is feeling neglected for the past week or two. That might change tonight if I don’t end up falling asleep in the listening chair. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/24/23 at 15:55:55 Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! I have a couple of juicy updates: A couple of days ago, my new Amp Series PC arrived from Snake River Audio. Thx again to GroovySauce for the recommendation. My initial impressions is that take everything I said, and multiply that by two. One of the standouts so far is the damn holographic nature of the presentation. Notes were already enveloping me with reckless abandon and now they are further back from my head. Loving it. Vocals are even clearer. Two nights ago, during an evening listening session, in pitch darkness (which is my preferred way of listening), I put on a Melody Gardot track (don’t recall which one), she whispers first from the right channel, and that was so damn realistic that every hair on my body was standing upright for a couple of seconds. I almost bolted out of the room. I look forward to this cable settling in. The only odd thing I’ve noticed so far is that on one track—Alanis Morissette’s ‘Princess Familiar (Live), there was more sibilance, than I’ve heard before. I am not necessarily sensitive to sibilance, but this was way more than usual. Will need to keep my eye on it. Thanksgiving Morning: The wife and kids had already moved in to the in-laws for dinner prep and I was at home overseeing the contractors. This allowed me to go in to the basement and say (louder than usual)…Good Morning Beautiful! Ah, that felt good! Just before leaving for the evening festivities, I sneaked in a half hour session and while it was good, in between songs or quiet passages, I heard this very faint whining sound. As I concluded my session and put up my ear near the amp, I noticed that the replacement 5U4 was now chattering, similar to the first one, but it was more of a higher pitched rattling. Again, doesn’t impact sound, but still don’t like to hear it. I am going to test this over the next couple of days to see if it goes away. However, in this moment of weakness, I may have pulled the trigger on two replacement rectifiers of my own choosing. 1) A Cryotone 5AR4 v2 on Decware’s classifieds 2) Contacted Sue at Sophia Electric and asked about a BF special and she gave me a $30 discount on the new Aqua II. I got the one with the 1 year warranty. I’ve also decided on which 300B tubes I am going to buy, but that will be a separate post when the times comes. One of the most agonizing decisions, ever. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/24/23 at 16:16:40 Kam, I tried about a dozen rectifiers in my SEWE300B--including a Cryotone 5AR4 and the best two were the Sophia Electric Aqua 274B and the Aqua 274B II. I think you have some interesting comparisons coming ahead. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/24/23 at 18:51:04 Thx Lon—that mean’s a lot coming from you. Didn’t realize you had acquired the Aqua II as well. How would you compare it against the original? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/24/23 at 18:55:32 They are very very similar in all ways, the advantage with the II is that it is supposedly more robust and will work in the SEWE300B without any downside (one of my originals arced once, and was not tried again; another I used worked without any arcing for a month or more, and then I got a II) and with potentially more longevity than the original. In my system the Aquas have the best tonal balance and the lowest noise floor. And. . . the glass is deeper blue and looks really cool! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/24/23 at 19:17:00 Thx for the quick feedback Lon. Even if it sounds the same, I’d be happy. And yes, from the pics, I’m really digging the deeper blue. That said, Jeff Day, who reviewed the original Aqua (and loved it) preferred the II for adding both more resolution, and vivid imaging. Didn’t realize he recently posted another detailed update after putting on more hours: https://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/sophia-electric-aqua-ii-274b-rectifier/ The money quote for me was: The 'superpower' ability of the Aqua II is that its additional resolution and more vivid imaging meant that I could still hear everything in the music even at lower volumes, a trait that comes in handy with low-powered SET amplifiers. I didn't get a sense I was missing anything in the music even at lower SPL levels, the music was just projected with more authority to me as a listener. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/25/23 at 01:26:30 Well, I don't want to argue with Jeff, I'll just say that I differ in that I don't hear as distinct a difference between the two in use at low volumes, and as in everything audio, especially of the resolution and transparency of these amps and preamps, everything matters in a tube complement. The II is deemed safer for the SEWE300B so that one is in use there. Adjusting gain etc. I've gotten as good a sound with the OG Aqua. But as you've ordered a II it doesn't matter. I'm using two IIs and two OG Aquas. . . in three systems. And have an OG Aqua to spare for a future ZP3. These are my preferred rectifiers in all the components. I've switched them around and don't hear as distinct a difference as Jeff seems to. But exaggerating sounds and differences is all part of audio talk. I've tried to pare it down in my own impressions when I can. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by The other Lon on 11/26/23 at 04:39:24 Kamran, you have an amazing way with words. I have truly loved reading each post and look forward to more. Like a cliffhanger in a book, each post begs for another. I recently acquired a used SE84 CKC Select while I await my Torii. Everything you have described I feel like I am currently living. The 360 holographic effect is just crazy. I literally had to have my wife come sit in my chair at one point to confirm the music was coming from behind me. Congratulations on your arrival. Looking forward to your next installment. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/26/23 at 05:04:32 The other Lon—-first of all, thx for the vote of confidence! You don’t know how timely your response is. Literally, an hour ago, I was reading one my favorite Hifi reviewers post on CAF, and I had one of those “I’m never going to be good enough’ moments. So, this was a great pick me upper! During the past few days, I’ve hadn’t had a chance to listen much due to family get togethers since Thanksgiving. That said, I’ve been lucky enough to keep putting hours on Sarah. I shut off the rig at hour #199 tonight. The last song I selected was Phill Collins’ “In the Air Tonight’ and Mamma Mia..that drum break at the end. The scale of it. I’m at a loss for words. Thunderous, maybe? Sidebar: I’ve been meaning to share this for the past week, but keep forgetting. In the Had amp, once you turned the power off, the caps seemed to have enough juice to last a good 8-10 seconds before the music completely died. It start distorting around the 5 second mark, fizzling out in the next few seconds. With Sarah, it dies out almost immediately. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing…just an interesting observation. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by The other Lon on 11/27/23 at 13:56:05 Yes, that opening note is incredible. Just listened Saturday as well. I've been privileged to have seen them live about a dozen times. I always look forward to hearing this track; along with an obligatory Rage Against the Machine cover. When you go over the details on your new PC, would you be able to discuss which one(s) you tried and moved on from as well and if you have tried any of the Decware PC's? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 11/27/23 at 18:19:30 Quote:
I think this is one of things that drives the people who "know" what is important to good sound but don't actually listen more crazy than anything. I don't stream but I use a dedicated laptop for playing files, and I admit I was skeptical of how much I could improve the sound but turning off unnecessary services, replacing the spinning disc with a SSD, and replacing the wall wart with a LPS certainly caught me by surprise as well. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Gilf on 11/27/23 at 23:52:01 I had to go back and listen to the original Pink Floyd version of Echoes. Classic. Thank you. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/28/23 at 01:25:04 Wow, it must have been amazing seeing then perform live. As far as power cords are concerned, I have experimented with Cullen Cable and Puritan Classic + cables (the latter being better) for my source gear, For my amps I went from stock to a Triode Wire Labs 10 plus cable, which was a definitely a step up from stock. But this SRA is just in a different league. CAJames: Agreed on LPS. Both my streamer and DAC have well built LPSs. I had my Netgear switch connected to an LPS from Uptone (1.2) and that made a difference too, but it failed after two months (bought it used). That said, even without it, the Netgear is a high-value switch and I plan to either get another LPS or replace it completely with an audiophile switch that has it built-in. Glif: Thx—I need to listen to the Pink Floyd version too. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/28/23 at 19:18:59 Kamran, So glad you are experiencing the holographicness that is possible. Sounds like, you have entered the area where things start to get abstract and difficult to explain. For me it is, It becomes hyperreal which is a wild head space to be in. It’s very real for you, yet conveying the sound and experience becomes difficult due to the way we language and describe sound. It’s lacking in description, doesn’t do justice to what is happening. A wild rabbit hole to go down is to look into the concept of hyperreality. As our audio systems become more resolving our senses become fluid-plastic. This goes way beyond psychoacoustics. This is where we start to hallucinate. Flying into a piano and exploring what the notes are doing inside the piano. It sounds like a drug trip, maybe it is closer to taking a hallucinogen that we realize? I’ve been meditating for 2 decades. In deep medication there are some phenomenon that mirror listening to music. A sense of lightness. A feeling of spinning or flying through space. An energy inside the head, a warm tingling energy. Vivid visual shapes, can be things like fractals or solid shapes changing—a sphere into a square—getting more complex. Eventually becoming a semi-interactive experience where things can be observed in a way not compliant with what the “rules” of reality are. After a good evening listening session I won’t get into a car and drive right away. I’m too blown out to safely drive a car. This reminds me of when I was living in Cebu, a classmate and his wife who were working in China visited. His wife was in the sweet spot, after the song she requested was over she remained silent. He touched her shoulder and asked if she had fallen asleep. Her response “No, I’m slowly returning to reality.” Another time I had a buddy over after a track I know really activates this phenomenon, he went on to describe how he was in a lucid dream like state. He was running through a bamboo forrest and had adventure. So is a good system a hallucinogen? I suspect it is. PS. Rod Gab put on a great show live! Their energy is fantastic on stage. I’ve seen them twice and they rocked. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Sean on 11/29/23 at 00:12:27 I'm a big Rodrigo y Gabriela fan here, have most of their albums on vinyl. I cue'd up Echoes last. We've got a one eyed cat and she's the only cat allowed in the basement. She loves listening with me and like Steve has mentioned it's a kick to watch their ears try to track things. Zoey has had some type of severe trauma and so she is hyper tuned hearing wise. She enjoyed(?) that 17 minutes of sound bouncing from everywhere. A friend had dogs and when he played Echoes you couldn't hear the music because the dogs would go nuts. Kamran, you have a great way with words. I've been following along and you remind me of a wide eyed boy jaw dropped on Christmas morning. Keep the updates coming! And keep enjoying the power of the music! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/29/23 at 04:59:56 GroovySauce—-you hit the proverbial nail on the head. Akin to an out of body experience, it’s getting increasingly challenging to describe what I’m hearing. I guess that’s a good problem to have. Thx for your kind words Sean. Absolutely loved learning about Zoey! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 11/29/23 at 09:10:34 I hope you enjoy the 5AR4. I had the OG version of this from Cryotone and it did not suit my system. The Aqua 274B II sure does. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/29/23 at 12:26:01 Such power of will! After one day I would have tried a new rectifier. ;D I was looking forward to reading your impressions of a different rectifier this morning. Quote:
These are the problems I like to have. It is an issue that as the resolution of our systems goes up the way we describe things becomes clunky and feels lacking. As others have said, Kamran, I enjoy reading your adventures in modern stereo playback. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 11/30/23 at 05:51:00 I can’t make GroovySauce wait any longer. Tonight was the 5U4G’s last hurrah. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 11/30/23 at 17:29:10 Yahoo! Looking forward to your listening notes on the new rectifier! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/01/23 at 05:50:22 A Tale of Three Tales This is a tale of heartbreak. This is a tale of luck. This is a tale of jubilation. All in the same day. So let’s rewind shall we? So first thing this am, I finally learned what other tube rollers mean when they talk about how sometimes, rectifiers arc. The second I plugged in the Cryotone 5AR4 v2 and turned Sarah on— It blew up in the most spectacular ‘fireworks within a tube’ manner that was simultaneously mesmerizing and terrifying. Maybe cryo’d tubes also die dynamically? Nothing against Cryotone—I bought it used and I knew the risks. Anyways, thx to GroovySauce’s quick counsel — I turned Sarah off, removed the rectifier and unplugged the piggy cable from the Swiss Digital fuse box (SDFB). Re-inserted the Decware 5U4G, reconnected the piggy, confirmed the green light was lit on the SDFB, turned Sarah on again and she was making sweet music in no time! After testing operations for 15 min and calming down, I turned the amp off, waited another 15 min and inserted the Sophia Electric Aqua II rectifier in, said a silent prayer, and hit the power button. I’m not going to go into what happened next as I only have time to reflect (after all, this is a reflections thread isn’t it) on the tale of heartbreak and luck (or good fortune). I was really looking forward to trying out the Cryotone rectifier. That will now have to wait. That said, I did write to Don about it to let him know what happened—not really expecting anything in return (considering it was used), but merely as a statistical data point as well as an effort to investigate what went wrong. The tube had a date of Oct 23, so it was not even two months old prior to its unfortunate demise. It most likely got damaged in shipping, but we may never know for sure. Not every setback needs closure. It is, what it is. However, this is also a tale of pure dumb luck! Had it not been for the Swiss Digital Fuse Box (SDFB) and copper Sluggo, I would have 100% blown the stock fuse. And had I gone the route of Synergistic fuses vs. the SDFB, I would have been out a couple hundred dollars. All it took, was simple plugging and unplugging of the SDFB and Sarah was back in action—under a minute. Think about that for a second… So, on just its fourth day of operation, the SDFB has proven that not only it has the chops to make your amp sing to its fullest potential, free from the shackles of a stock fuse, but also, be the overprotective bodyguard (ampguard?) you never knew you needed and now you can’t live without. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/01/23 at 10:40:02 When I first turned on my SEWE300B fresh out of the packaging with an Aqua 274B in the rectifier arced and the fuse blew. Put in a new fuse and another rectifier (I think one of my Amperex 5R4WGY) and no issue. Later the same Aqua 274B did NOT arc and worked wonderfully until an Aqua 274B II arrived and now rules the roost. I think that initial onrush of current when the amp hadn't been played a few days and has traveled may be a big one and causing the issues. I've not had a single issue with fuse or rectifier since thank goodness. Interested to hear your impressions with the Sophia Electric rectifier. They are the cat's meow in my system(s). |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/01/23 at 11:47:40 I'm glad I haven't had a SDFB "pop" in normal use. I have tripped them went trying setups. a 3 amp slow blow will "pop" trying to power up a ZMA. My brother also did some testing with loading up a 3amp SDFB and "popped" it a few times. When I was in Cebu, PH I had a chi-fi amp. The rectifier would arc every few power ons. I ordered a new set of tubes.In PH it could take a 4-8 weeks to get packages sometimes. I don't recommend continuing using a tube that arcs regularly. I've heard similar stories to Lon's. I'm also looking forward to your impressions of the new Aqua 274b II. Now that you have more time on the amp have you tried changing back to 8 ohm taps? Have you been playing with the voicing switch? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by The other Lon on 12/01/23 at 12:22:46 While looking forward to the changes you experience with the new rectifier, I am most intrigued by the SDFB test conducted, even if unplanned. Since reading an earlier post I have been going through that thread. Hopefully I’ll be able to finish this weekend. One question I have, and if it is mentioned in the thread please disregard here as I will add it there. Does the use of the SDFB void the Decware warranty? Seems like by-passing a manufacturer design would. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/01/23 at 13:03:43 Quote:
Funny you mention this, I just had someone PM me asking the same question. I haven't asked Steve about it. What is the difference between using the SDFB and a fuse by Synergistic Research or Audio Magic? I haven't heard about issues with those. Years ago when the high dollar fuses came out I recall similar discussions. The SDFB is a fuse. It works by a different mechanism. I don't see it bypassing the the safety mechanism, the fuse. I see it the same as going from the cheapie five cent fuse to a fancy glass-ceramic-voodoo-pixiedust fuse. As long as the fuse works as intended I don't see an issue. Of course if you must know, Steve is the person to answer. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 12/01/23 at 15:52:01 I'm personally not aware of this ever happening, but presumably a "nickel fuse" or a "hundred buck audiophile fuse" could fail to blow when needed. Fuses are highly reliable but nothing is perfect (AFAIK). |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/02/23 at 06:16:13 The other Lon: My take is exactly the same as GroovySauce. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/02/23 at 06:31:39 Love at First Listen If you were paying attention to the last post, then you’ve already gathered that this is the third and final tale. The tale of jubilation. Suffice to say, the Sophia Aqua II rectifier successfully performed its duties without abandoning post. There was no light-works. No fuss. No histrionics. Just resolution (no pun intended), steadfastness, and aplomb. What else do we want from a rectifier? The tale could just end here, but lol—I already said at the outset that this thread and my reflections are going to be anything, but criminally succinct. The Ghost I think Jeff Day might be on to something when he said that the Aqua II provided comparatively more vivid imagery to the original Aqua. I had ‘Jazz at the Pawnshop’ running for hours while working on really low volume yesterday. I’ve done that many times with the original Aqua. Yesterday was different. I can’t tell you the number of times I had to look up from my laptop expecting to see my wife holding up and clicking together dirty dishes with a look of incredulity on her face—how dare I forget my chore for the day (not that she has ever done that, but you get the picture). But each time I looked up—there was no one in the room. The clickity clack was from the cutlery in the Jazz bar, which is not unknown to me—I love that background ambience from the recording. In other words, I’m used to it—I expect it. But for the love of God, I looked up several times anyways, because that noise was so damn real—my mind refused to believe it was coming from the speakers. Where the heck is she hiding I thought? Did I tell you the volume was extremely low? Like 10 steps above mute low. I shouldn’t have been able to hear any background noise at this level, much less it being more vivid than I have ever experienced. Perhaps this could be a combination of the ultra low noise floor drop between the SRA PC and the Swiss Digital Fuse Box? Perhaps, it’s just Sarah being Sarah—being super resolving by design? I left the rig uncertain, shook, but extremely excited nonetheless. That Feeling Then a couple of hours later, I returned for a one hour session (focusing on female vocalists) at my desired level and instantly had this feeling that CAJames remarked upon (in his 2x25th Anniversary mono’s review). Wait, you thought I was going to spell it out above? In strict Kamran fashion, I feel the urge to describe it in my own idiosyncratic way. I felt that prior to the Sophia, I was at a luxury penthouse suite, oohing and aahing at all the modern amenities—-so much sexier than my place! But now, I was back home after the renovation was complete and it too was jazzed up with the wood flooring we always wanted, the new kitchen with center Island that we longed for, the bigger and more modern bathrooms that we pined for. After all that second guessing, anxiety, we can’t help but marvel at the facelift! But, above all the excitement over the new stuff, there is that unmistakeable contentment, that comfort, that zen—that you get in only one place in the whole wide world. The place you call home. Yeah, CA James—I’m home too baby! So yea, we have a winner. Sophia is already besties with Sarah. They were inseparable for 13 hours yesterday and have already surpassed their play date hours today. I tried to recreate Steve’s iconic Sarah rectifier shot (sans Sarah’s reflection)—still not 100% happy, but this will have to hold for now. IMG_0545 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/20973623@N02/] |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/02/23 at 08:40:48 I'm glad that the Aqua II has worked out so well. The two I have I really like using. The used Cryotone 5AR4 I had didn't arc and blow but didn't sound anywhere near as good. I did a comparison yesterday between the OG Aqua and the II. I do hear a subtle difference as Jeff and you seem to, or rather I'd say it's subtler than you both describe, but then I just write in a more low key way this decade about audio, that's how I hear and describe now. What a great discovery the SEWE300B can bring to a system. Many of these details you are describing with the SEWE300B have been part of my listening experience this decade and a bit before, with the blossoming and tuning and tailoring of my SE84UFO3 Monoblocks and ZTPRE--they are already a standard that I have upheld in my system and processed with my listening brain; they are a new level of accuracy and inspire me to describe as clearly and unadorned as I can. These Decware components are such wonderful servants to the music. More and more it's become about the music itself for me, which is often an experience beyond words. The system takes me into the musical worlds each disc can travel to. I just am so grateful for the escape into musical realms, and so grateful to have tens of thousands of discs to travel with. I can never live in the music for long enough! You have great listening ahead of you as the amp seasons. . . it gets really seasoned around the 500 mark and then slowly incrementally still improves. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/02/23 at 12:29:43 Quote:
This to me is what the Decware magic is. Quote:
This is so true. Quote:
Sadness! I'm looking forward to the next tale in tube rolling adventures. :D |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/02/23 at 16:26:07 Thx Lon. Agreed, I don’t think it’s night and day better, but there is something there that I’ve continued to notice for the past two days. Let’s just call it more better. The darker blue—can’t stop staring at it. I’m at the 250 hr mark as of last night and expect to reach 500 before the end of the month. GroovySauce: LOL—not in a rush to share a tale of sadness, but with all things audio (and life), it will eventually come. Today, I figured I’d roll in a Mullard 12AU7 vs. the stock Sylvania. Let’ see how that pans out. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by ArtMan on 12/02/23 at 18:53:22 Kamran, what fuse are you using with your May DAC? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/02/23 at 18:56:32 ArtMan—you mean the Spring 3 KTE—using the stock for now and intend to upgrade to a SDFB in the near future. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/02/23 at 23:21:03 Kamran, I was commenting "sadness" as it's the end of the tail. ;D |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by ArtMan on 12/03/23 at 02:15:41 Kamran, Yes I meant the Spring. I replaced the stock fuse on my May DAC with an SR Purple and it elevated the sound of the May. I then got all giddy and ordered an SR Master fuse. It took the sound of the May to another level. I assume the SDFB will elevate your Spring to an equal or greater effect. The stock fuses clearly hold back the potential of the DAC. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/03/23 at 05:57:10 Thx ArtMan— I was never a skeptic of fuses and had planned to go this route in 2024, but then I got bit by the SDFB bug and damn, I think I am going to accelerate and get one for my DAC before the end of the year. I am sure the master fuse is kick ass—it better be—considering it’s Synergistic’s highest caliber fuse. I’m more than a believer now. GroovySauce—Ah, didn’t read your comment properly. Sadness noted and will be addressed with more reflections such as the one in the next post. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/03/23 at 06:45:03 I’ll be honest—I don’t know if it’s: 1) Sarah just seasoning (we are approx. 270 hrs) 2) SRA PC settling (installed at approx. 150 hrs) 3) SDFB breaking in (5th day) 4) Rolling the Mullard 12AU7 (first day) But tonight’s session, was epic. And I mean that literally. I’ve never heard such scale and holography as I did in the past 1.5 hrs. Today, a playlist by ABXAudiophiles came to my attention. It’s on multiple platforms including Qobuz. I decided to give it a spin. It has almost 60 tracks and I’m familiar with some of them. I went through the first 13 tracks. One after another, there was vivid imagery of instruments emerging from a deep dark black hole, the scale, and the holographic nature of the presentation just shocked me. On the tail-end of one track, there was an effect of a plane or jet moving from left to right. I kid you not, I thought my Atmos speakers were on—so realistic was the panning above my head. As good as my Atmos speakers are, Sarah’s holography just gave them a run for their money. Oh and that’s not even the grand finale. The very last track (Pillar I by Andy Akiho), after which I was going to turn the rig off, was so damn epic, so damn vivid, with such surgical precision of instruments, and deep thunderous bass (which seemed to put my dual SVS PB 2000 Pros to shame) that…well I’m still looking for my jaw. And ppl think OBs don’t have good bass. My Fast 15’s nailed that track. Instead of turning it off, I ran up the stairs to my son’s room who was home from college and dragged him down to listen to it one more time and he was equally floored. And then I explained to him what dad has been up to with all the tweaks including SDFB. He loves the look of the SRA PC and was feeling the outer jacket to make sure it wasn’t a snake, lol. That’s it for tonight folks. Goodnight and God Bless! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Tony on 12/03/23 at 13:49:40 But tonight’s session, was epic. And I mean that literally. Karman, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate! :) I am now tracking down your reference to "a playlist by ABXAudiophiles ." I am really pleased for how well the 300b is performing for you. Those emotions are what makes this pastime, so rewarding. Tony |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/03/23 at 14:53:25 Kamran, If you posted your experiences daily I would make sure to check the forums daily! Quote:
We should tell Jonny to make a special edition with real snake skin! :D |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/03/23 at 15:49:19 Lol Tony and Thx! I tried to copy the Soundiiz link last night but it wasn’t working for some reason. Here it is now: https://sdz.sh/eBTib5?fbclid=IwAR2CzMwCZ29MtmgIx5aj8ABSWB4MkfTK7e00YQUByhqvZsbo4NPsXb6KrMo_aem_AccOLv2CZQHCIrVxOP2JImTeojvAaxLkcuN33e_Xz5TdCI89pbRNr_ORNkvTyMxXWI4 Lol GroovySauce, that might be a good way to keep folks out and messing around! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/03/23 at 21:45:42 This picture sums up the psychedelic experience from last night: |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/04/23 at 12:44:30 That's a great shot! I struggle to get good photos of tubes or my system. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/07/23 at 16:16:20 Some more pics under different lighting conditions… lose emojis The ABx Audiophile playlist was excellent—took me about 4 days to get through but loved most of the tracks. I then switched to Billie Eilish to gauge the low end response and it was better than I’ve ever heard before. There was this one track (I’m struggling to recall which one) where an uber realistic background vocal suddenly came from the right speaker I had one of those ‘heart in my throat’ moments again. Still struggling to get used to this level of transparency. Sarah is either this spooky good or my wife has just gotten better at playing tricks on me. Then I decided to play around with the voicing switch and brought it forward and I have to say, I’m digging it. I feared the forward switch would completely kill the depth, but it didn’t. It was still very satisfying, while the general presentation seemed to get a tad more holographic. Can’t argue with that. The last two nights have been mostly Patricia Barber. Went through two albums “Higher’ and ‘NightClub’. The former didn’t do much for me, but the second one (which has a rep of being bright and I can see why) was fantastic on Sarah—with fantastic vocals and immersive instrumentation with equal amounts of grit and finesse. No fatigue or excessive brightness experienced in the rig. Sidebar: I grew up on 70 to 80’s Bollywood music but don’t generally listen to this genre in the rig because as my tastes and standards have evolved, I find it very excessive in the treble region. That said, I made an exception last night and listened to a comparatively well recorded track that I’ve listened to a thousand times since I was a kid, and it sounded completely different from what I am accustomed to. Not a bad different, but it also didn’t give me the ‘I’m cozy in my pajamas’ feeling. Thinking more about it, I’m just not used to this level of fidelity with that particular genre, and it sounded (for lack of a better term), alien. Maybe, I just need to re-wire my brain. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/07/23 at 18:24:55 Your SEWE300B is beginning to be broken in! I listen to totally different music on mine and that probably yields a different overall sensation and experience--a good point that different genres have different fidelity expectations I think. Anyway, prepare yourself: the amp gets better still. Mine I think is still getting a tiny bit better week by week. And I learn how to get better sound out of it as the weeks go by as well. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/07/23 at 18:36:47 Great shots Kamran! The blue on the rectifier is so bold. Reminds me of Methylene Blue, which I love the color of. Quote:
I've experienced this too. Makes me wonder what causes this. Is it that the high frequency information is finally being properly/more accurately rendered so it's not a painful unpleasant experience? I'm in the same boat as Lon, there is the initial burnin period. Then the slow almost unperceivable increase of wonderfulness. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/09/23 at 05:38:15 Interesting. The third one will be for the input tube, not the rectifier. I'm using Cryotone input and driver tubes, and 300B-WC, but love the sound of the 75C1 in comparison to any 0C2, so not going to try the 0C2 . . . or don't plan to at this time. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/09/23 at 11:57:53 Yes, meant to say third one for the input tube (will modify post) |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kahuna Jack on 12/09/23 at 18:52:26 In regards to Sarah sessions , have you been playing with speaker position at all??? or they have remained in same spot . |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/10/23 at 22:55:35 Kahuna Jack: No, net yet. Partly because it’s sounding good and I don’t want to mess around and partly because as the amp/tubes/sdfb break—in, I am keeping one other variable that could influence the sound, at bay. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/11/23 at 04:11:13 The Giggles Ok, today was a weird day, but with a happy ending. I guess putting on 300+ hrs in the first month is not bad. I started the break-in playlist at 352 hrs. One of my goals this weekend was to listen to the Cowboy Junkies-The Trinity Sessions. I figured today would be a good day to check it out. Actually, the term ‘day’ is important. It’s a ritual of mine to listen to this album in the late morning/early afternoon. Unfortunately, I missed that window today as I was committed to a boys BBQ at noon, got back later than I expected and then there was no way to go straight to a listening session (unless I had death wish), so I helped around and before I knew it, the sun was setting. I snuck in to the rig to catch a couple of tracks in the last remaining embers of sunlight. It sounded like crap. Three tracks in and I bolted. The first time in a month, I was a little miffed at Sarah. I don’t know what it was, but I just wasn’t connecting with the album at all. It sounded flat and uninviting. Maybe, I didn’t set the volume just right, or I’m just a slave to listening to this album at a particular time. I’ll have to revisit it later. Then I returned a couple of hours later to do my nightly session and started off with some select female artists and was loving the immersion and then suddenly I had this overwhelming urge to do modern pop so I put on Dua Lipa’s ‘Future Nostalgia’—one of my guilty pleasure albums. That’s when the giggling started. It sounded so damn good and immersive that I’m surprised my wife and daughter didn’t come come dancing down the steps (they are huge fans) and then after listening to a few tracks, I figured, let’s stick with the pop theme, but switch to another artist. But who? The second word of Dua’s album gave me a clue—‘Nostalgia’. I put on Michael Jackson’s Thriller and listened to Beat It, Smooth Criminal, Wanna be Startin Somethin, and Thriller. Stupendous….Absolutely Stupendous. I’ve spent 4 decades listening to these tracks and it was as if I was listening to it for the very first time. The soundstage, the detail, the tonality, and the immersion was unreal. That opening guitar riff on Beat it—I’m still thinking about it. Well, I didn’t want to piss off Sarah too much with this genre, so I decided to call it a night, but boy, it was fun! I also finally executed my first purchase from Don at Wathen Audiophile—ended up ordering a pair of ECC88-WC’s and a third OC2. Didn’t elect to get their 12AU7, since I have a bunch of 12AU7’s on loan to check out including RCA Clear Top, a Siemens (it will be my first time with a German tube), and a Northern Electric. The plan was to break in the amp using stock tubes, and switch to tubes of my own choosing by 350’ish hours. I’m on target. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 12/11/23 at 21:56:54 Fun stories Kam... Having a beautifully evolving system and room, and the system in various states of perpetual burnin, I suspect your mind will be permanently altered whenever you stop, or should I say, slow shopping, and (most) all settles [smiley=50.gif] If we don't hear from you for a while, I imagine we can just give you some time to come out of audio ecstasy enough that words and linear thought can resume in some portion of your consciousness! Looking forward to those stories! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/12/23 at 01:54:57 Thx for your kind words Will. It’s so good to hear from you! Actually, I’m going to steal a phrase you used in my next post—thx for the inspiration! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/12/23 at 05:16:39 Perpetual State of Break-In Well, if you didn’t see this coming, you haven’t been paying attention. lake smileys |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/12/23 at 13:04:36 Quote:
If you had one day in 30 that didn't sound right... then later it was mind melting you are way ahead of the curve. Years ago I would have 1 day in 30 that was mind melting. Wow! That dark shot with the tubes glowing and the blue fluorescence is terrific! I read on another forum that WE says 500 hours for the tubes to be fully burned in! Enjoy the ride! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Paul2 on 12/12/23 at 13:34:43 Lusting after these pictures I believe Kamryn should be reported for posting Audio Porn…… Love the updates ! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/13/23 at 04:57:25 Thx GroovySauce for the insight—I do feel extremely grateful that bad sessions (session to be particular) have been kept to a minimum. And yes, I was taken aback by the nighttime blue fluorescent glow. Honestly, at first I thought there was something wrong with the tubes and had to look it up! Lol Paul2. Thx! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/13/23 at 10:06:09 I haven't tried too many 300B tubes. . . Sophia Electric 300B Classic in blue glass, Takatsuki 300B (borrowed from CA James), PsVane HIFI, and Cryotone 300B-WC. I really like the 300B Classic in blue glass--it may be my favorite sound but one failed on me after 600 or 700 hours. (I do have a replacement coming soon). But reading what Steve wrote about it and others' experiences I decided to spend the big bucks on the Cryotone as how it was described seemed best for my system, and I have to admit it sounds really really good, and I think will be quite reliable in the years ahead. One day I may try the Western Electric WE300B, but my finances likely won't allow it for several years to come. I'm quite content with the Cryotone, it works really well with the Aqua 274B II rectifier. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/13/23 at 11:50:56 They say a picture is worth a thousand words so I think you met your quota for the day! Great shots! Lon, Have you rolled many rectifiers? I'm really enjoying the SE Aqua 274b original version in the UFO25TH. It has a nice balance of space, density and clarity. I did put in a 1950s (I think) RCA 5u4g and have been enjoying that as of late. I'm considering getting a pair of the Aqua 274b II for my Torii in the next few months. The only down side to the Sarah I see is how spendy the 300b tubes are. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/13/23 at 11:57:25 Yes, I rolled about a dozen rectifiers to be honest (I have way too many! need to put some up for sale). The OG Aqua 274B was my favorite with the 300B before the Cryotone 300B-WC arrived and by that time I had an Aqua 274B II and it was an improvement. I since bought a II for my Taboo Mk IV with the mods, and have another on order for my CSP3 with the mods. It's just a bit more than a subtle upgrade over the OG Aqua. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kahuna Jack on 12/14/23 at 04:24:32 "The only down side to the Sarah I see is how spendy the 300b tubes are" LOL yes buying the amplifier is the easiest part just like a automobile. Then comes the insurance, registration every year at the worst time(always) and the maintenance. But if your middle name is 'Deep Pockets' I can see collecting 300b tubes a lot of fun. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/14/23 at 04:58:19 A little Exercise and a little Voodoo So funny story, this. Today my wife had booked the basement rig to do a Teams presentation. Preferring not to pause my break-in playlist, I decreased the volume on the autoformer to one -72db, which is one step prior to mute. For good measure, I de-throttled the ZBIT several clicks, satisfied she wouldn’t be able to hear jack. Well, barely 15 min in to the room, I got a frantic series of texts: What is this voodoo? Weird music Like scary music I initially missed these texts so she called me and was like she can’t figure out where this sound is coming from Prior to texting/calling me, she had texted her colleagues to gauge if somebody had music playing on their speakers and or was it part of some glitch in the operator led conference call that everybody was hearing. Anyways, back to the frantic call. I said I’d take care of it and paused the music on the phone. And then I thought, how friggin low is the noise-floor that she was able to pick it out? She does have good hearing. Probably better than mine. She emerges after an hour on a 10-min break, and I snuck back down and de-throttled the ZBIT even further, thinking that should do it and unpaused the music and we get the following texts: Why is there music in the basement Constantly It is so freaking bizarre I paused the music again, completely baffled, and perhaps a little annoyed. Who knew a low noise-floor was going to come back to haunt me? So post conf. call we were doing a postmortem of the incident with my son on FaceTime. She was explaining how she was hearing music and at first thought it was on the call, but nobody else was hearing it. Then she mentioned it coming from behind her and I stopped her immediately and asked: Explain to your son, which speaker was playing? She was like, the speaker behind me (referring to my surround speaker for my HT) My son and I looked at each other, grinning, and then giggling. Figuring out that it was the wrong answer, she was like maybe it was above my head, so perhaps your ceiling speaker. At this point, my son and I couldn’t contain our laughter and I pointed out loud that this is as good confirmation as any as how holographic Sarah is. Exasperated, she muttered something about shutting down her for good one of these days. Context: She is not a fan—refers to her as my mistress given the time I spend downstairs…. Why were you playing music anyways, she asked? Were you exercising your speakers. To be technically correct, I answered, ‘I was exercising my tubes’ and got a hmmph in return. Anyways, the convo shifted to other topics, but in my internal postmortem, I was excited about securing this unexpected confirmation of what I’ve been experiencing all along. Ladies and gents—the immersion is unreal with the WE 300Bs. Oh, in case you were wondering, we never revealed to her where the music was coming from…. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/14/23 at 12:16:30 When the time comes I'm 95% sure I'm going to go with the Aqua II. NOS tubes can be amazing however, It makes me uneasy that if one of them goes bad that's that and I need to find a new tube. I do enjoy rolling tubes from time to time as I am curious. I stuck with the same tubes for well over a year, maybe two years without thinking about rolling them. KJ, My audio habit has already snipped a hole in HCB (Hip Central Bank). Kamran, That's a great story! lol. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/17/23 at 06:11:21 This pair of WE is worth it for the glow alone. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 12/17/23 at 19:13:52 Those are great pics Kamran. FWIW my experience is just having the tubes powered up, no music will get them broken in most of the way. When I got my Takatsukis I let them cook overnight for about 10 days, plus normal listening during the day. Also curious how you're feeling about getting the cryo treatment now? For me, I was seriously considering it while I was waiting for my UFO25s, but now that I have them I'm not nearly as keen on spending the money, living without them or changing the sound that I'm really REALLY happy with at this point. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/19/23 at 02:11:04 Thx James. Sarah and tubes doing the heavy lifting here—all I need to do is click a button. And yes, agreed in passing a signal is not necessary to break in a tube. I’m just being OCD right now, trying to leave no stone unturned while I explore this new landscape. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/20/23 at 05:31:58 Ever since the WE, I have been at a loss for words. Adding another SDFB to my Holo DAC only compounded the problem, leaving me a tad frustrated. It took the arrival of my son (who just got home on winter break) to say something, so friggin obvious that I had a massive face palm moment. He was excited to see the WEs and the new SDFB. I played a couple of instrumental tracks for him and then asked for his thoughts and opinions. He had two comments: 1) He’s totally distracted by the beautiful glow…it looks ‘mad trippy’ 2) On the sound, he said: “It sounds like you’re there live, but better”. Now why the hell couldn’t I think of that? It is so beautifully simplistic, accurate, and cuts straight to the heart of the matter. Why waste time? I guess the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree… Goodnight and God Bless. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/20/23 at 12:57:24 I love it when someone not involved in the hobby smashes a description perfectly. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/23/23 at 05:50:42 The Kindness of Strangers We are 520 hrs. A couple of days ago, I probably had the best listening session ever since I got Sarah a month and half ago. I think my face is still melted. That session also gave me an idea to start a playlist called ‘Immersion’. My plan was to slowly add songs that were very holographic. I didn’t expect to be adding track after track, which suddenly became a chore. This is Sarah’s way of saying that I have to up my standards to gauge not only if a particular track is holographic, but also how well it is executed. I guess that’s a good problem to have. Anyways, bottom line is that the combined prowess of two SDFB’s in the rig and the Western Electrics has taken the rig to new levels. It’s gory damn unbelievable. Which takes us to today. Well, let me share a picture first to set the stage. upload image Yeah…the Aqua is out. This is a story worth sharing. If you recall, a couple of weeks ago, I had bought a used Cryotone 5AR4 from a member and it arced immedietly after I tuned on the amp, and that was that. Well, unbeknownst to me, the member/seller felt so bad about this outcome, that he bought another rectifier from Wathen and sent it to me as a surprise Christmas gift. He was under no obligation to do so. I was really taken aback and of course really appreciate his kind gesture—I also didn’t waste anytime in giving the 5AR4 a second shot the very day I got it. Luckily, it took this time! I just concluded the initial break-in of 12 hours. I’m big on first impressions and I liked what I heard. Let’s just say that the Aqua II (while still my rectifier of choice) has a worthy competitor that needs to be given time. Hell, I need time to really understand the differences between the two. So now, with the slightly chatty 5U4, I now have 3 rectifiers to roll. For the past couple of days, I’ve also rolled the RCA Cleartop 12AU7A, which does have a good rep, but one thing I have noticed is that it’s predecessor, the IEC Mullard did a better job of taming the high frequencies. The RCA seems a tad hotter in comparison. Case in point, one of things that impressed me about the Western Electrics was how it tamed sibilance. I wasn’t expecting that. The Mullard was already in the system when I rolled in the WE’s and the decrease in sibilance was noticeable. With the RCA, it seemed to dip back yesterday but I plan to give it a little more time to see if it sticks. I plan to roll my first German input tube, the Siemens 12AU7 (or equivalent European term) next week. Today I was hearing more details (this new detail discovery never ceases to amaze me) on familiar tracks and at first I thought, how the heck is the 5AR4 doing this, but on further reflection, I don’t think it’s the rectifier but the SDFB in the DAC and the Western Electrics maturing. Or maybe it’s just Sarah settling in with over 500 hrs. The ambiguity of the source doesn’t bother me because the result is so delightful. Finally, I’d also like to take this opportunity to wish anyone who is celebrating, a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! I have some family in town so my listening sessions might be a bit choppy over the next week. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/23/23 at 09:22:04 The amp keeps improving doesn't it! This just shows how important all the differences in a system are. In my system the Wathen 5AR4 was perhaps the WORST of all the rectifiers I tried, and I tried nearly a dozen. I'll never touch another! Every difference seems to matter and lead to differing outcomes. Happy holidays! Enjoy the listening! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Tony on 12/24/23 at 03:38:55 Kamran, Your story about the the seller of the 5AR4 tube surprising you with a replacement after the first one failed was a good one. What a stand up guy. Yet, I wasn't surprised, as I think your guy could be any one of number of folks within the community. Still, a class act. On a different topic, I am trying to figure out where you placed the second SDFB. I take it you found it beneficial, or is one sufficient? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/24/23 at 03:54:29 Lon:It sure does! It’s just uncanny how more refined the sound is after a couple hundred hours. Noted about the 5AR4 and also agree that each rig being different. To be fair, it didn’t necessarily outclass the Aqua, but it was a good first showing and I’ll explore for a bit. Tony: I added it to my DAC and I had the same sensation after I had put the original SDFB in Sarah, that it let the DAC run loose (in a good way)—think more open, more laser etched, more holographic and hearing more details (both new details as well as things happening backstage that weren’t as clear before). I will try and share at least two examples in my next post (that I still recall). |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/25/23 at 19:08:15 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/25/23 at 23:30:20 Trinity Revisited This time, I was able to sit through and enjoy the entire album and it was a great session. More intimate then I’ve ever heard before and the Church’s natural reverb was even more discernible and enjoyable (mental note to visit this Church next time I’m in Toronto). Also, I found all the instruments to be both nicely layered, yet distinct in their own space. There was considerably more depth and clarity to the drumset and it was just sweet on “Sweet Jane”. On ‘Misguided Angel’, something incredible happened (at least I think it’s incredible)—I could distinctly make out a male voice backing Margo. It’s probably her brother, but I’m not sure. All I know, she wasn’t the only vocalist on that track and I was really surprised how I had never picked that up before. The Bling on Elvis On the track, ‘Fever’ I’ve been noticing some jewelry clinking just barely to the left of center (it happens for barely two seconds during the middle of the track). I thought my mind was playing tricks on me, but a couple of nights ago, I heard it more clearly than ever before and I am certain Elvis was wearing some sort of Jewellry while recording that song. A watch, perhaps? But that in it self wont’ necessarily make that noise unless it was interacting with another metallic item. The things that keep me up at night…. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/26/23 at 01:01:45 Kam, Have you ever listened to the sequel? I prefer the performances on this one than on the original, and it's the same recording venue. The guests really make solid contributions. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/26/23 at 01:13:36 Ha, the later album was the inspiration for the post title. I actually listened to part of it on Youtube two days ago (while trying to find any reference of the male vocal on misguided angel) and made a mental note to listen critically on the rig. Definitely seemed to have much higher production values, so I don’t doubt it sounds better, plus I’m a big fan of Natalie Merchant! That said, there is an undeniable charm about the original, an album created for a mere $250 and the backstory behind it is pretty fascinating. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 12/26/23 at 01:22:17 Yeah, the original is cool. I'm far more into the "Revisited" though. Cowboy Junkies is one of the few rock bands I still listen to, though I prefer their work this century to be honest (probably not a popular opinion). |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 12/27/23 at 06:23:43 Thx Lon—well noted. Will give revisited a listen real soon! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 12/30/23 at 13:15:14 Love the photos! It's bizarre how things get moved and changed in our systems with out use knowing about it. When it does happen its a WTF! moment. I recently cleaned up the cable routing in my system and was gobsmacked how much of a difference it made. I love DCD! I generally don't listen loud at all. The song Rakim is another story it's one that never seems to be loud enough. Unfortunately it's a poor quality recording, maybe that's why? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 01/02/24 at 12:25:54 How close to an equilateral triangle are you? I'm so torn. Get the SE Aqua II or SE 5u4g? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 01/02/24 at 12:36:33 I personally recommend the Aqua II. I have not heard the 5U4G, but reading on the web the OG Aqua was preferred by most who heard both, and the Aqua II is amazing. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 01/02/24 at 12:43:05 Lon, Do you know why they preferred the Aqua II? If my new DAC—Lampizator TRP, ships with the Aqua II that will make things easy for me. I've already ordered an EML 274b Mesh for it. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 01/02/24 at 12:59:45 It was the original Aqua they said they preferred as this was before the II was released. I don't remember specifics or if there was specifics. It was in non-Decware amps. I've compared the original Aqua to NOS 5U4G--I just like the "big" sound of the Aqua more myself, and the Aqua II is an improved version. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 01/03/24 at 02:22:32 GS, I’m sitting 1-2 inches behind the Apex of an equilateral triangle. No experience with the SE 5U4G, but as you can tell, Lon and I are big fans of the Aqua II! I like Lon’s description of big, more realistic sound from the Aqua in comparison to the 5U4G and 5AR4 that I tried. Bigger and more vivid. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 01/03/24 at 18:02:14 I put the SE 274b Aqua (older version) back into the UFO yesterday. I think I prefer it to the RCA 5u4g (50s?) The Aqua has a lightness that is attached to density which I really like. The RCA wasn't as nuanced and didn't have the lightness and speed the Aqua has. Aqua has a more holographic presentation too. I'm 1-2 inches past the apex too. In a bunch of different rooms with different equipment I usually end up in that listening position. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/01/24 at 06:58:50 Drowning in Krall’s Saliva and Other Stories Ok, I got way ahead of myself with the title. Let’s rewind and reflect for a moment, to the parting paragraph of my reflections post from 12/27. In hindsight, a raging storm was at my doorstep, and I was completely oblivious. Soon after commenting about Loreena Mckennitt’s floating vocals, the Voice of God (or as I have coined it, the VOG effect) became a monster. It’s one thing for certain tracks to have the vocals floating above your head, but when it happens 7 times out of 10, the universe is trying to tell you something. My speakers and or gear had never done that before. Yes, Steve’s gear is extremely holographic, but this? No, this was something else. Separately (and in parallel), I also wanted to address the drifting of vocals to the right, without resorting to channel balancing which my passive pre allows me to do. The thought of overdriving one speaker via channel balancing just wasn’t sitting right with me for some reason. I was pining for a more organic approach. So I decided to mess with speaker placement to figure out what room node was igniting the VOG and how to lock Jennifer Warnes dead nut center in the Ballad of the Runaway Horse. This trial and error took about two weeks. I moved them closer together, adjusted toe in, moved them forward and backwards, and adjusted height. I listened and then I listened. God, even if I listened to the ‘Ballad of the Runaway Horse’ in a 100 years, it will be too soon…. Anyways, I digress. The end result was that I was able to lock in vocals dead center by placing the right speaker a couple of inches behind the left, and the VOG while diminished, was not completely gone. I adjusted my listening position, slumping down a bit more, to negate it. Probably spent a couple of days researching alternative listening chairs, which in hindsight, seems ridiculous. Anyways, as soon as I was satisfied with my tinkering, I received the Wathen ECC88 driver pair tubes and the third OC2 VR for the input tube. As soon as I put them in, I stated hearing this sputtering, squealing, buzzing sound intermittently from both speakers. Completely random, sometimes lasting seconds, and sometimes a couple of minutes. Suffice to say, it ruined the listening experience, which was a damn shame, because in-between the sputtering, the ECC88’s sounded sublime with the WE 300Bs. There was no contest with the stock Russian 6H6N’s—the ECC88’s were just on another level. That said, I also thought the ECC88’s were to blame for the sputtering because of the timing, but after a convo with Don, I decided to test out other tubes starting with the input tube. Rolled the input tube—no change Was then convinced it was the rectifier so I rolled that too—no change (I was this close to e-mailing Sue from Sophia Electric) Rolled the OC2 tube I got from Don regulating the input tube—no change Rolled the OC2 tubes from another member regulating the driver tubes—no change Finally changed the ECC88 pair, (thinking that must be it and that I should have trusted my instinct) back to the stock Russian 6H6N tubes—no friggin change At this point, I was convinced that it was some sort of RF/EMI interference, it certainly sounded like it. Started looking for anamolies and noticed that the the tip of one of my two ground rounds was submerged in melting snow. Maybe that was it? Had my contractor throw some soil over the area to soak up the excess water, but no cigar. Then I started thinking maybe it was Bluetooth related so I disconnected my Phillips Hue Wireless Bridge (mind you the Bridge has been in the rig for the past 3 years with no adverse effect)—but desperate times call for desperate measures and obviously, no change. Then, on a whim, I took out the Western Electrics and put back in the stock Chinese tubes. Well, I’ll be damned—t was the WE 300Bs. Talk about winning the lottery. The chances of both tubes being bad are astronomically low. And mind you, all this started well over 400 hours on those tubes and I took them out just after 500 hours. Back to silence—no sputtering/buzzing/squealing and VOG all but eliminated except for a select few tracks where it was intentional (aka what the artist intended). Figuring out the noise issue took another two weeks. In other words, almost (emphasis on almost) the entire month of January has been a complete shit show. I started the RMA process with WE and shipped out the pair today—they will hopefully receive it by Friday. The support team at WE seemed equally perplexed. They also stand by their tubes, so let’s see what their testing shows. Regardless, I have a 5 year warranty on em. This is going to be interesting. Btw, I’m not necessarily saying that the VOG was a precursor to the tubes becoming audibly noisy, but the timing sure is weird. This doesn’t mean I didn’t make any progress—the title obviously alludes to a paradigm shift, but this post is already obnoxiously long, so I’ll save Krall for later. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/01/24 at 11:18:14 Karmen, I think the title of the last post portrays the difficulty of January :-[ Good to find out that you hopefully got to the bottom of it! VOC(voice over center) can be easily obtained by a slight turn of my head towards the favorable directional move. Turning right brings the voice to left and visa versa. In essence moving the left speaker back, with the preceeding example. In my room anyhow, I think. Edit: I realized that your acronym was changed in my response. So I had to think why. Sorry. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 02/01/24 at 15:36:21 It still surprises me how often a simple change leads to a long drawn out ordeal in audio. Especially tubes, they can be squirrely bastards or a seductive muse. I want to re-arrange some of my components and re-route the cables to tidy things up. I'm also scared something is going to change! I wonder if WE will give any more insight once they examine the tubes. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/01/24 at 20:53:50 Yeah, trying to push Jan out of my mind and plough ahead. And yes, can’t wait for WE to test and get back to me. Hoping I’ll have some answers by next week. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Bottlehead on 02/03/24 at 05:02:23 With you on the Puritan 156, Kamran. One of my more worthwhile (worth the money) recent audio purchases. Randy |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 02/03/24 at 12:20:28 Now that the VOG effect is gone. How is the sound stage holography and immersion doing? I think you made the right call with adding both the speaker and interconnect cables at the same time. Only difference I've found is the speaker cable will be a stronger influence of the same change, at least for the SRA cables. Funny what our moments of weakness look like in this hobby. Yours turned out really well :D So this is something that happens to me sometimes. I'll put together a playlist or even play a record or digital album. A track is playing and want to make sure I remember it. Might be a something like you mention with Diana Krall's saliva, a really moving part, a truck going by outside the studio or something along those lines. I'll then quietly vacillate if I open my eyes and make a note of it or keep on rolling with the flow. Does anyone else do this? I find just like Kamran, I have a specific thing I remember vividly... except what the track was! Does Diana Krall know how often her saliva is talked about? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by HockessinKid on 02/03/24 at 12:47:33 Kamaran & GS, really?? I don't even recall Elvis Costello talking about Diana's saliva. I'm thinking that as her partner he should know. Hahaha. HK |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/04/24 at 18:45:50 Oh annother observation I totally forgot to mention (as crazy as it sounds) is that I am also experiencing more disappearance of the speakers. This is a bit mind boggling—they were already doing the disappearing act quite well, but it seems that there are layers to even that. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 02/06/24 at 10:48:20 I find there is value in passive listening—when working—how often does it grab my attention lure me into the music? Speakers disappearing more is a new one for me, I get it it at the same time. I'm not sure how I would language it any better. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Steve Deckert on 02/06/24 at 16:34:15 Quote:
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Both priceless. Makes you wonder who's stereo would sound better, the guy who works his ass off making it sound great or the guy who places a pair of 6 figure speakers up against the wall in his living room. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/08/24 at 16:42:25 Thx Steve—I also plan to install a solid core door at the entry to the basement rig to make the room boundaries more symmetrical, so I am sure I will have to play around with adjustment a bit more in the near future. But I am glad I took the time to get it to work right. Although a bit of a bother, overall it was a lot of fun and got the room even better sounding. Speaking of Steve, while he continues to get justifiable credit for Sarah and all the other amps, I also want to extend my admiration for the stock tube set for Sarah and especially the stock Chinese 300B tubes. After having tried other tubes, including the WE, the Chinese tubes are really really good and dead silent! I am glad I chose them as a backup option. In fact, if these were the only tubes available, I’d still be a happy camper. Now speaking of WE, I have an update here as well. WE got back to me and said that they were able to reproduce noise in just one of the tubes, so they are replacing just the one and have shipped them back. A bit of a bummer, as I would like both tubes to have the same mileage, but in the grand scheme of things (as long as the noise issue is addressed), with these tubes lasting 10K hours, both will be in similar functional capacity as I continue to use them over the long term. Another interesting point—WE was quick to recognize Steve and Decware and were assured I wasn’t operating the tubes in a sub-standard amp. They also said this is not a take it or leave it scenario necessarily and that if I continue to have issues, I still have recourse, so that provides me with some comfort. Have had some great listening sessions over the past couple of days. Experimenting with gain riding with the ZBIT at 18 clicks (vs. 20) and a higher volume on the passive pre. The combination of the stock 300B tubes and the SRA cabling and Puritan is spooky quiet. Yesterday, I was listening to the Decware Tim playlist that I think Tom shared last year and it suddenly ended and I was a bit surprised since I had the impression I was only half way done, but it was the silence in the beginning of the track “Atlas Mountains’ from Artist “Bliss’. I was in the process of opening up my IPad to check and move on to another playlist, when the audible portion of the track started. I was just floored. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 02/08/24 at 18:25:37 Quote:
That was exactly my experience as well, with my non-Decware 300B amp. If the only option was the Chinese tubes I would be fine with it, unfortunately knowing what else is possible I couldn't resist, and in the long run I'm glad I did. But it is still hard for my Scottish Heritage to justify paying almost 10x more for TOTL 300Bs. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/10/24 at 12:05:04 How about, “Fleshing Out”? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/11/24 at 05:03:57 John, I love it! Updating now… |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/11/24 at 14:02:18 Before lunch, you can also get coffee the next time we meet up ;) Kidding aside, the pharse seem to fit your wording. She's developing very nicely. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/11/24 at 22:44:59 LOL John—-how about next time we meet, both coffee and lunch are on me? Speaking of meeting up, I had a wonderful meeting with Dominick (Dom) two weeks ago. We met up for lunch at a Diner, which considering our combined love and fascination with tube amplification, was an apt meeting place. We plan to visit each others rigs soon. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/12/24 at 03:19:41 John, Kamran and I had a great meeting. We got to talk about our tube gear. Once things level off…we plan to visit each others house for an extended listening session. Your more than welcome to join us when that time comes. I know your in PA…so if the drive is not too long, we would love for you to come. Dom |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/12/24 at 04:26:53 The Prodigal Son Returns |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/12/24 at 11:57:22 I plan on being out that way late September this year for the Segall Century in Salisbury Maryland. A bit south of you two but maybe a meet up could fit. Sean and I met at the Vinly Man's warehouse this past summer. It is always a good time meeting people with the same passion...conversation flows easy with one's story triggering another's experience. A true time warp. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/13/24 at 02:03:04 The Vinyl Man’s Warehouse sounds like great place…where is that? When you make your way through NJ in September, shoot us a PM so we can try to coordinate a meeting. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/13/24 at 06:12:08 Definitely hit us up when you’re making your way to Maryland come September. And if it doesn’t work out, hopefully we’ll get to see you at Decfest 2024 a couple of weeks later. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/13/24 at 18:41:17 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.verylocal.com/vinyl-mans-clubhouse-jerrys-records/1684/&ved=2ahUKEwin5O7r-aiEAxVJkokEHcL1BakQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2iHmC9b7nr_TIoqyAdBwXx Jerry past just recently but his son Willy still opens the place a couple days a week. When in the Jersey area surely will look you guys up. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/14/24 at 03:44:13 John….thanks for the info on the Vinyl Man’s Warehouse. If I’m up in the Pittsburg area….I’m definitely going to check that place out; obviously see if you are around to meet up. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Gilf on 02/17/24 at 12:11:30 Kam has a door! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/17/24 at 14:14:13 Kamran…..love the space! The cables lifters look great!! Once I get my weekends off in late March/April….let’s plan on having some listening sessions. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/17/24 at 16:17:49 Gilf, you nailed it! It’s 99% installed at this point. Only missing the door knob—had to order a flush mount type so the door can extend fully to the inside wall when open. It’s supposed to arrive today. Last night, I had to prop it closed with a bunch of records leaning against it and a rag stuffed in the hole where the knob would go. I’m going to expand on the impact later as I want to have another couple listening sessions but one thing is for certain—it’s better and there is a major reduction of noise leaking upstairs, allowing me to rip it to a desired volume and not have the kids humming the same songs when I go up, lol. That is a big win. Dom, I’m in the process of changing the cable lifters thanks to a tip from Roger. While these AQ lifters work, I’m not a big fan of the spider looking legs and they are a bit wobbly. Stay tuned. Yes, looking forward to spring and our planned sessions! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/17/24 at 20:04:26 Kamran…the cable lifters that HK posted look nice. If you are handy, try some small blocks of walnut or mahogany, and chamfer out a channel for the cables to lie on top of. Or…you could take a small block of the wood of your choice, and drill a hole dead center and feed the speaker wire through it. I’m thinking 3 or 4 small blocks per side would be enough to keep the cable suspended. This way you could stain them to match your Sarah or your speakers. Personally I think that would be a great finishing touch. Something like this comes to mind…. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1621622522/paddock-wood-cable-risers-set-of-4?gpla=1&gao=1& They can be built for way less than what that guy is charging. Sky is the limit on the design, but just to give you some options. Dom |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/18/24 at 11:18:59 Quote:
Yes, definitely get a hold of me. Willy is an accomidating guy - if he is not tied up with other things he will open up the warehouse with a phone call. Quote:
I know your into the trains, planes, rental car scene but wouldn't it be cool to meet up in a coordinated effort attending Decfest this year. You and Dom drive here meet Sean and I where we could take over finishing the drive to Steves. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 02/18/24 at 12:31:12 I’m game—that does sound cool! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 02/18/24 at 16:40:44 Yes that does sound enticing. We’ll definitely have to talk more about that. I love a good road trip! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by JBzen on 02/19/24 at 11:11:15 I can not speak for Sean, but I would definitely be up for it also. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by The other Lon on 02/22/24 at 14:48:31 Nice update Kamran...I always wonder when reading this thread or others discussing how their room/system sounds how much different it may be from mine; better or worse. A moment of FOMO passes over me even knowing I am beyond happy with what I currently have, and then knowing it will be my secondary system when the primary comes home in a couple months. Currently set my room up on a diagonal in order to use standard length cables. That changed everything for the better. After two weeks I have yet to hear any music causing an irritable base bump. I'm sure I will as that issue needs treatment more than setup changes, however it is much improved. Looking forward to the next update you provide. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by RonP on 03/01/24 at 03:34:23 Butcher Block Acoustics are some more of the good guys in the audio business! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Tony on 03/01/24 at 06:58:03 +1 Regarding Butcher Block products and people. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 03/01/24 at 18:13:24 Wow! Look at that blue glow! So over all the tubes are quieter than previously? that's a nice bonus for going through the replacement process with WE. I'm also a fan of Butcher Block Acoustics. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/02/24 at 20:12:31 Yup, love me some Butcher Block! I probably will get another platform this year, but not sure which one yet. Yup, the lovely blue glow is back and yes, in comparison to the original pair, they are quieter- so that’s some consolation for my troubles at least. Dom: Sorry completely forgot to close the loop with you on the cable risers. I would be up for DIY had I not already ordered with Bill. The good news is that the new risers are solid and I much prefer them over the AQ’s. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 03/03/24 at 18:32:47 Hey Kamran….no worries. I’m glad the cable risers are working out for you. I can’t wait to come over for a listening session. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/10/24 at 05:36:21 Stupendous For a bunch of reasons, I couldn’t go to the local Diana Krall concert last week, so I decided to have one at home and played her ‘Live in Paris’ album for the umpteenth time. It sounded way more energetic and bright than I’m accustomed to, which was messing with my mind. Then I realized that when I took out the malfunctioning Cryotone, I had put in the RCA Clear Top vs. the Siemens. My initial impressions (from previous usage) were that this tube was bright (or at least tipping my system over to be bright and edgy) and listening to the entire album and some other tracks over the next day just cemented that experience. I don’t see myself rotating the RCA regularly. That said, I strangely still enjoyed the change of pace (at least for one night). On Friday, I replaced the RCA with the Siemens and I was back in business. No hint of brightness, fuller, more impactful lower end, and more meat on the bones. So far, the Cryotone 12AU7 is the only one (from what I own) that bests the Siemens. I also tuned the voicing switch backwards after 2 months and was not ready for what followed. Sarah sounded so stupendously good—I was just stunned. I wasn’t even sitting even in my sweet spot—opting to lounge two ft behind on the couch and the soundstage was just….unbelievable. I decided to stay put for the rest of the session to gauge if this was a one track thing or if it was consistently spectacular. It was the latter. I was so desperate for others to hear what I was hearing that I called my kids downstairs and while my elder son was nodding his head, my baby girl had this frown on her face. I guess she doesn’t get the genius of ‘Take Five’, so I had to play some ‘Imagine Dragons’ tracks and then she was also engaged. It was a fun night and I just didn’t want to turn the system off. Of note…while I was agape with this glorious musical extravaganza, Steve was having his own simpatico mind-bending episode with Sarah and the HeadWreckers in Peoria. Felt strongly connected to him and the shop across a thousands miles. Sarah Gets a Deep Clean Speaking of Steve, I was inspired with his amp cleaning video so I got myself a Decware brush and 90% alcohol, but stayed away from using any mineral spirits—-sorry Steve, need to draw the line there, lol. It went well (see pics) and I also took the opportunity to Deoxit all the tubes except the WE’s. When I turned the amp on, it was even quieter than usual on start-up and my heart sank for a fraction of a second, thinking that I screwed up the cleaning somehow. But no, everything was fine. Just turned the amp off after 10 hours. It was dead silent, and sounded as glorious (if not more) compared to last night. Is it the WE’s opening up, or the ZBIT breaking in, or the cleaning, or the deoxiting? Who knows? That said, I now adhere to the following mantra: ‘If you take care of Sarah, she will take care of you.’ 12 tails online 2 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 03/10/24 at 14:46:56 How many hours have you put on the RCA Cleartop? That was a fresh tube when I sent it to you. The Siemens was burned in already. Why did you skip the Deoxit on the WEs? Amp looks fantastic! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by pursuitofnow on 03/10/24 at 19:49:31 I loved that cleaning video as well. Nice job, Steve! Kamran, where did you get the brush? I don't see it on the website. I know it's just a paint brush but would love to have a Decware branded one. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/10/24 at 19:57:41 I’m estimating 50-75 hrs on the RCA to be on the conservative side—probably more. While I’m keeping a closer track on the number of hours for power tubes, Driver tubes, and the rectifier, I haven’t been as closely monitoring the VR and input tubes. I roll the inout tube the most, so that makes it harder to keep on top. That said, if I usually don’t like a tube during the first 50 hrs, chances are that it will probably be not to my liking as it further breaks in. I will revisit the RCA in the future. The WE tubes have a 500 hr break in so I figured I’d wait until they are more settled in—maybe around the 250 hr mark (currently at 136 hrs). I found that the DeOxit really helps with the VR tubes. Those are a huge pain to insert in the sockets and using DeOxit was a game changer. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/10/24 at 20:10:11 pursuitofnow—sorry, missed your response—see link below to the amp brush: https://www.decwareproducts.com/product-page/decware-dusting-brush |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by pursuitofnow on 03/11/24 at 04:42:25 Thanks, Kamran. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 03/12/24 at 09:56:32 Happy Ramadan sir! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/12/24 at 10:47:05 Thx Lon! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by MikeinMontana on 03/13/24 at 16:12:40 Find that tripod Kamran~ two second timer w settings ready to go and you're in business! Zero camera shake. -As long as you (like us) don't have wood floors :) We just keep still till shot. That didn't sound right somehow... till shutter is released. Absolutely gorgeous amp! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Tony on 03/13/24 at 16:48:44 WOW, great picture! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Estes on 03/14/24 at 01:16:49 I LOVE reading this thread. Great stuff! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by MikeinMontana on 03/17/24 at 20:51:11 .....And gorgeous pics Kamran! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/18/24 at 03:00:31 Thx Mike—-that mean’s a lot coming from you and your amazing picture taking skills! Decfest East Coast 2024 Edition So I’m kicking myself for not taking any pictures but I had the unique pleasure of hosting three audiophiles including Dom, GroovySauce (and his brother) today. They spent a couple of hours in the rig and time just flew by! I would like to thank all of them for taking the time out of their busy schedules to checkout my rookie rig. We also played with GroovySauce’s Schumann Wave Resonator by Mr. Nixie and I really dug it when it was in the system. It’s hard to describe the effect, other than say the music sounded more natural and more clear with it on. It’s on my shortlist of things to get… Hopefully, this is just the start of many future jam sessions. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/19/24 at 03:23:22 Thx for the kind words Dom! Loved having you guys over. You missed the Pizza afterwards! So interesting discovery—I am super tired and lazy today so havn’t set my listening chair, opting to sit behind on the couch and listening to Sarah approx. 10 db lower and it sounds so satisfying. I can’t figure out why I’m not itching to crank up the volume to my desired 75-85 range. Either Sarah is matching my low energy, or both the Cryotone input/rectifier and the WE are breaking in and becoming even quieter. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 03/19/24 at 21:42:29 Hey Kamran…..your welcome. Maybe your low energy is from not having the Schumann Resonator plugged in. It’s actually a possible that your body is craving the missing frequencies. Just a thought. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/22/24 at 03:45:06 Thx Dom—that’s definitely a factor to consider. It’s either that or GroovySauce imparted his lower volume preference on to me after our session, lol! Speaking of GroovySauce, I am re-listening to his ‘Exploring Bass’ playlist after a long time and just stunned with the low end response I’m experiencing. I just don’t get the rep of 300B tubes being a one trick (midrange) pony? This amp doesn’t cease to amaze. I am just over 1400 hrs and about 250 hrs on the replacement WEs. Also of note, this is probably the longest hiatus the Sophia Aqua 274B has had in the rig. Not necessarily saying that the Cryotone 5U4 is better, but I remain more than satisfied at the moment and will probably let the WE’s burn in fully, before I go back to it to compare. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 03/22/24 at 13:34:12 Kamran, Thank you for the invite! Both my brother and I had a great time. Dom, it was a pleasure to meet and hangout with you. First, I want to apologize to Kamran and Dom. My brother and I when we listen to each other’s systems blurt out raw unfiltered observations. Example last year I replaced some cables and didn’t tell him. After a song or two he paused and turned to me and said. “Um, your system isn’t fun to listen to.” If there is any thing we don’t care for the other knows. On the drive home we acknowledged it can be brutal if you haven’t asked and are not ready for it. It’s always curious to me looking at photos of peoples rooms and I have no idea what it will sound like. I don’t even try to imagine as I’ll be wrong. If it has components that I’m familiar with I’ll get a sense of what direction it’s going that’s about all. This can be expanded to if there are floor to ceiling glass widows on one side with no drapes or anything I have a sense of what that will add. A coffee table in front of the listening chair will also add it’s own change. Once we were settled, Dom in the sweet spot me to the back left, Kamran played the first track, a lively percussion track. Within the first 30 seconds I had an “oh shit!” moment. There were notes hovering just over Dom’s left shoulder in the center of the room. I could barely see the right speaker yet a few feet in front of me there they were. When I got into the sweet spot it sounded and felt like the music was coming up to me and giving me a hug in an intimate way. At some point I mentioned it gave me the feeling of being in a small jazz club. I really wasn’t ready for how holographic the system sounded. It was interesting messing with the Schumann Resonator while Dom was in the sweet spot listening. I would make an adjustment and within a few seconds he would say you changed something. Later after Dom took off Kamran would ask me to turn it up or down and I would while he was listening. I was shocked to see that the Sarah 300b is more of a silver grey than white, it looks fantastic. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/22/24 at 16:37:53 Thx for the feedback GS! It was so much fun and afterwards I realized that we didn’t listen to enough music, lol! Already looking forward to your next trip! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 03/23/24 at 01:25:22 Nigel…it was a pleasure meeting you and your brother as well. No apologies necessary….because at the end of the day I appreciate the honesty from others with a fresh set of ears. After hearing Kamran’s system… it gives me something to shoot for in my untreated cathedral-llike room. It was nice to also talk about cars, racing, and Vegas. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 03/30/24 at 13:02:55 This amp seasons so well and shows you all that comes into it and all the elements within it. This is a forever amp! You and your son will be enjoying the evolution over the year, it will all still change for the better . . . sharing this is a great thing. My enjoyment has deepened this week as I paid attention and threw some money wisely at my vinyl playback. I added a Schiit Loki Max and used great cabling so that the flexibility to tune and improve the vinyl sound has taken a step forward. Here's the path: Rega P3* with Groovetracer Reference Sub-platter, Delrin platter, Counterweight, Record weight, Rega Exact2, newest reference Rega belt, Rega TTPSU*>PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter* (XLR out)>Schiit Loki Max* (balanced out)>Decware ZBIT**>Decware SEWE300B* amplifier>Decware HR-1** speakers. Cabling is VooDoo Cable Stradivarius Cremona and Amati (interconnects), PS Audio AC-12 (power cables). Previously I was running the Phono Converter into the DSD DAC Mk II, DSD out via HDMI I2S and thus through my other ZBIT and the XZROCK2, and got a denser sound, quite pleasing, but less "realistic". . . . with this setup I lost remote volume control, but that's not a big deal to me--I adjust volume mostly with the ZBIT. I’m very happy with this sound, spent all the money I can on it, and will now be listening to more vinyl than usual. Actually the biggest downside to this new setup is now reaching around behind the 300B tubes to switch the input from the DAC to the Phono Converter--a risky thing when the amp is hot! (* with VooDoo Cable Iso-Pods and on PS Audio PowerBase. ** on VooDoo Cable Iso-Pods) |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by The other Lon on 03/30/24 at 16:56:31 Torii MK V on the bench at HQ and I still want to add a Sarah to the cart every time I read these reviews. Could be a 60th Birthday present to myself I guess based on the current build time. Kam, DFA is just incredible. I have all of her vinyl and also have Nameless on CD. Unfortunately both media have something going on for the first minute or two of Strange Fruit (one of my favorites) and it is unpleasant. Nameless is my other favorite. She can just sing. The lower bass you are describing is what I had this week when I switched out the Super Sluggo's for the HPC. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by LiquidBlue on 03/30/24 at 22:03:26 Funny, I was thinking how all these posts make me want to order the Sarah as well, though I’ve been extremely happy with my UFO25. But now that you put it that way and looking at the timeline, yes, it could be a nice 60th bday present for myself. :) Kamran, it’s so awesome you can share the excitement with your son and make these memories with him. My father passed along his love for photography and music as well. I now have his jazz collection with me. He passed them along while still here, as he knew I could appreciate them more and he was no longer listening to vinyl. I like that I can still text him now and then and wax on about how great an album is or recall memories of listening to certain songs with him in my youth. Not sure how far you’ve dug into Fear Inoculum (incredible album!), but you’ll have to play Chocolate Chip Trip for your son and really blow his mind! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 03/31/24 at 03:57:32 Thx Lon—I should have included that part of it is the amp seasoning as well. It surpassed all of my expectations on Day 1 and it just keeps getting better! I’ve heard great things about the Loki Max—although looking at your path, I was curious about the PS Audio phono. I’d have pegged you to be a ZP3 fan! I have heard great things about the GrooveTracer mods and was curious whether the higher Rega models negate the need for the sub-platter mods or is there still a market no matter how high you go. The Other Lon: It’s funny you asked. I’ve been ignoring my vinyl setup for some time now and was thinking of getting back in to it and DFH’s ‘Nameless’ was one of the top records on my list. She does have an incredible voice. LiquidBlue: Thx! I really cherish the moments sharing the rig with my son. His tastes are obviously so different from mine, but I’ve noticed that he pays attention and digs at least some of the esoteric music I throw at him. And speaking of Tool, while I am still early in my discovery stage, I had previously earmarked ‘Chocolate Chip Trip’ for us to listen to and had completely forgotten about until you brought it up. So thx for the reminder! And to both of you: I think it’s a great idea to put your name in the queue for a milestone birthday—go for it! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 03/31/24 at 05:53:21 Kam, I had a ZP3 up to about five years ago. It kindof drove me nuts because I never settled on a tube complement, there were so many variables and potentialities and I often struggled with system hum when it was here; I was not listening to vinyl much at all and someone wanted it and I sold it to them. The flexibility of the PS Audio phono converter intrigued me, it was not that expensive, and I found that it was comforting not to wonder what it would sound like with this tube or that. In fact IMO it sounds really good via any ouput (has RCA, XLR, coax, USB and HDMI) and complements my Rega very well. Ironically I really did enjoy running it through my DAC via HDMI/I2S, great sound, and one source ultimately as far as volume and phase control etc. Also I really enjoy that it is balanced when using the analog output--my DAC source is balanced, I was using the ZTPRE, it fit right in gain-wise in my system. I really enjoy its sound. It's quite a great unit, and I even have a second one as a backup. That said, late last year for Black Friday I put in an order for a fully modded ZP3. . . just for the heck of it. . . and in three years or so I'll be able to try that component again. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 03/31/24 at 10:06:14 Regarding the sub-platter mod: I think the current P8 and above have an OE much better sub-platter, and the Groovetracer mod is likely a lateral move rather than the truly forward improvement it is in the lower models. The Delrin platter is almost equally as wonderful an improvment. And the Loki Max has proven to be very flexible and useful. I can get the sound I crave via the ZROCK2 without the increase in GAIN that the ZROCK2 gives, which in the case of my phono playback (which is inherently more dense than digital playback in my system) is a cool thing. And I think it foreshadows the sort of sound that the ZROCK3 will bring, in both its transparency and its ability to EQ without gain (and with gain adjustably in the case of the ZROCK3 which I think will be a great component). |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by GroovySauce on 03/31/24 at 12:44:56 Do you think you will ever stop tracking the hours on Sarah? I’ve got 12 Stylus Timers tracking tubes and such. I’m not sure if I’m going to retire the timers on the components when they hit 1,000 hours. I’m at 495 on the TRP now. The other Lon, both the Sarah and Torii MKV are fantastic. Give it a few hundred hours and thoughts of other amps may fade away. Or you might have it bad like someone I know who is too curious for their own good. lol. All of Dominique’s albums are pressed very well and sound outstanding! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 04/01/24 at 02:21:32 I’m not sure either. On the Had amp, I gave up tracking my usage after 500 or so hours, but still at it with Sarah. And also using it as my true north with respect to tracking the break-in of the WE. In other words, I know which hour of break-in I inserted the new pair of WE and using that as a reference point to track 500 hrs. Not tracking any other tube at this point. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 04/10/24 at 15:10:04 It’s Sarah’s first Eid and she has an extra spring in her step this morning! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by mrchipster on 04/10/24 at 19:26:48 Nice pic as usual Kamran, In the spirit of Eid, thanks for sharing this with those of us who may be a little less fortunate! (meant with respect and a little humor) I have the UFO25 but I still can't stop wondering what the Sarah would sound like in my system. Totally happy with the UFO25 though. You have a great supporting cast in your components and room. I imagine it must be incredible to spend hours getting lost in there. Anyway, thanks for your impressions and overall contributions to the forum. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 04/11/24 at 01:13:13 Thx mrchipster for the kind (as well as funny) words. Also, welcome to the forum! Happy to share my audio diary with pics. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to wondering how the UFO25 would sound in the rig, lol (so that makes the two of us, wondering what if). That said, I’m equally content (and then some) with Sarah. It continues to be a glorious ride. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 05/05/24 at 18:29:27 So, in a dissapointing turn of events, one of the replacement set of WE tubes has developed noise, which even after 300 hrs of burn-in (post issue), refuses to go away. To say that I’m disappointed with WE’s quality control is an understatement. So much for its legendary status. Next week, I plan to send it back for evaluation. I think I’m done with WE. Once I resolve the issue, I plan to sell my pair. I’ve ordered Cryotone 300Bs that should arrive by end of May. The noise didn’t stop there. One of my ECC88-WC’s was also exhibiting noise and that has been already shipped to Don for further evaluation. Am I devastated? No. Disappointed? Yes. Thank God for the stock tubes that came with Sarah. It allowed me to evaluate the source of the noise and allowed me to get back on track both for power tubes and driver tubes. With the PNet fully stabilized and the Graphene Sluggo burned in, it’s just unreal how low the noise-floor is and how crazy details are emerging that I didn’t hear before. Last night, I listened to Sarah Bareillis’ ‘Brave Enough: Live at the Variety Playhouse’ album for the umpteenth time and it sounded so different (in a good way). Was picking up way more subtle crowd interaction and her vocals—-omg—talk about intimate. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 05/05/24 at 19:40:20 What a drag about the tube noise. I think you will really like the Wathen 300B-WC. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 05/11/24 at 10:50:01 Well out of the blue I lost another Aqua II in the SEWE300B. Sophia Electric tells me that I am the only one who has reported losing an Aqua II in this amp, let alone twice. I've come to the conclusion it is too risky to run this (beloved) rectifier in this amp. (This mishap also showed that the Swiss Digital Fuse Boxes work just as they should protecting the amp--they shut down and then restarted just as outlined in the manual). I went through a handful of rectifiers that have safely worked in the amp and an old RCA 5U4G nearly got me where I wanted but ultimately got closest with the original Aqua (which I have not had a problem with in the amp since the very first turn on of the amp arced one reallly quickly and shortly) and a pair of Shuguang Treasure 300B-Z that I got from Will this week. This combo sounds pretty darned good. I'll probably put the Cryoton 300B-WC back in shortly and see how that combo sounds. I miss the Aqua II! I'll still buy another so that I can have one each in the CSP3 and the Zen Amp Clone in my audio/visual system. It's a fantastic rectifier to build a tube complement that suits my rooms and tastes with. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Dominick on 05/11/24 at 17:19:12 Lon… sad to hear that the Aqua II are not working out in the Sarah. While I have never heard that rectifier, I know how you and a lot of members love them. I’ll eventually get around to obtaining one to try out. Great to hear that the SDFB did its job and operated as intended. I still need to pick up another one for my CSP. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 05/11/24 at 18:01:04 The puzzling thing Dominick is that the rectifier seems to work well in others' SEWE300B amps. Not sure why it doesn't in mine. The original Aqua 274B seems to have been and to be problem free in the amp, so I guess I'll just use that for a while. (It's a very good tube--the II just seems to have an even lower noise quotient and that yields a slightly fuller sound; the new 300B tube are giving me a slightly fuller sound than the Cryotone at this point so that helps make up for it.) I'm thinking of investigating other (probably Chinese) premium 274Bs in time. . . will do some research and see if I can find useful reviews. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 05/11/24 at 18:43:14 OMG Lon—-that is simultaneously devastating and worrisome. Ouch! It’s really bizarre—-my Aqua II is still going strong, although as of late, I find myself drawn more to the Cryotone 5U4G. In fact, after re-inserting the Aqua after a month or so using the Cryotone, I wanted to go back to the 5U4G. I’ve never had that happen before. The only 2 times a rectifier arced was the same used Cryotone 5AR4, I had purchased, which for some insane reason, I still kept in my stash, and after a couple of weeks, accidentally re-inserted it instead of the replacement 5AR4, and witnessed that light show again. The replacement 5AR4 was completely fine. Thankfully, I was already a user of the SDFB on Sarah, so on both occasions, I was back in business in minutes. That protection and reset is worth its weight in gold. Even if it didn’t have any sonic benefits, the SDFB would be a compelling buy, just for this reason. Update on WE: Both tubes were requested back by WE. They received it on Friday. I anticipate feedback the following week. Update on ECC88-WC—Don shipped it back after it passed through with flying colors on his rig. I am anxious to receive it (potentially today) and re-evaluate. Update on Cryotone 300B—I anticipate getting it before the end of the month—excited! I’m also pleased to share that I just crossed my 6 month anniversary (and 1900 hrs) with Sarah! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 05/11/24 at 19:07:46 Yes, I don't know why the II doesn't like my SEWE300B. Everything can be different from one system to another. Hope your input tube comes back with no noise. Those are nice tubes. . . though a bit too "much" (forceful sounding) in my main system. I think you'll really like the 300B-WC. I did experience some hum from it and the Sophia Electric 300Bs, the latter the most, the amp was at its very newest then as well. But it was not hum that intruded into the music at all. Right now I'm enjoying the difference that the Black Treasures 300B-Z are bringing--I've needed the bit more of a bass boost that it and the Super Duper Sluggo are bringing me. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Gilf on 05/12/24 at 02:55:31 Wow! 1900 hours in 6 months. Am I doing my math right? That’s 10.5 hours a day, 7 days a week? I was just estimating some hours on my first set of Cryotone tubes and at over 2 years old they don’t have 1900 hours yet. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 05/12/24 at 17:34:12 Yea, Sarah hasn’t missed a beat for a single day over the last six months. It’s combination of relentless burning in of tubes, cables, sluggos, while being tied down during house renovations. Good times—-Though I don’t anticipate keeping up with this pace for the second half of this year. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by bhenriks on 05/13/24 at 12:53:33 Man, what a great read. There's a wealth of hard earned info here. Really helped me as a new Sarah owner. Thanks for sharing your adventure Kamran. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 05/13/24 at 17:55:46 Thx bhenriks— happy to assist! I look forward to your impressions as well. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 06/05/24 at 06:01:40 Ok, it’s been simultaneously a trying few weeks with some family medical issues (which are hopefully behind me at this point) as well as sonically pleasing with the Cryotone 300Bs. I have over 100 hrs on them. They easily best the stock tubes and the Western Electrics that I’ve tried for extended periods. More denser/fuller More low end grunt More dynamic More grippy Vocals—compared to the WE—it sounds more organic and realistic. The WE does vocals beautifully. However, beautiful does not equal realistic. If you’re going for euphonic, honeyed-over vocals, the WE is your ticket. Damn it sounds good. But, I’ve found myself enjoying the ‘realness’ of the Cryotone. Lifting of veils—yes, sorry for using that cliché, but damn, it rings true in this case. This is manifested by the clarity of the vocals, which in addition to their realism, was another holy shit moment (or moments?), as well as new details I was hearing track after track after track—like what the heck?? I was ready for it to be denser and have more low end grunt, but was not ready for it to have that level of finesse in terms of detail retrieval. Soundstage—Hmm, so I’m not sure if the soundstage is necessarily larger compared to the WE, but what’s happening within that soundstage is what’s interesting. There is a sense of more space (air?) all around. More space for the vocalist to express themselves and more space for instruments to showcase their tonality. The other tubes sound congested in comparison. There are two decidedly minor quibbles: One of the tubes does not snugly in to the socket compared to the other. It feels a little loose, but won’t go down further. I had that issue with one of the WE tubes as well. The Chinese tubes and the original pair of WE was snug. I was expecting the noise-floor to be lower. But it raised by 5 db compared to the stock Chinese tubes. The floor was about 38 db with the Chinese tubes, and about 42 db with the Cryotone 300Bs initially. Now with further break-in, it has crept up to 43 db. Coincidently the 1 db increase also happened post application of Deoxit on all tubes, except the VR tubes. So I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it. Don’t mistake the above to mean the tubes are noisy or I am hearing audible hum—nothing of the sort. In the grand scheme of things, it is still super quiet. But as of late, I’ve been anal about measuring the floor with my Decibel Pro app and I could also make out that it’s not quite as dead as the stock Chinese tubes, which are eerily silent. That fact that I can still make out more details with the Cryotone 300Bs with a slightly higher noise-floor, I’m not too worried about this. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by CAJames on 06/05/24 at 19:23:24 Quote:
FWIW, based on comments by several online friends (who own more 300B tubes than I own socks), you may be the target demographic for the Elrog 300B. They seem to be the choice for maximum transparency, dynamics and frequency extension without the "too beautiful" WE sound. Not cheap, they are likely a lifetime investment. So if you ever feel like you haven't spent enough money on tubes that might be something to think about. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 06/05/24 at 20:36:14 Or. . .he may be just the right candidate for the Cryotone 300B-WC. I had a pair for a 1000 hours or so and they are fantastic tubes, and Kam may love them for 20,000 hours or so. I felt I needed a little more bass and a bit more of a nostalgic sound--each of our systems are different. I have found my thrill with Black Treasure 300B-Z--they stole my interest away, but I had an itch to wander to begin with--I think the Cryotone may be perfet for Kam. We'll see! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 06/06/24 at 23:48:06 James—I recently inquired about the Elrogs compatibility with Sarah considering it has different specs from a typical 300B and here is what Steve had to say: With the higher than 700 ohm plate resistance the sound is going to change as is the power, so having voiced the amp for WE300B I can only say it won't be that. Expect less power, less gain, and let me know if you like it. I think my curiosity was put to bed after reading that…. Yes Lon, to my ears and in my rig, I’m really digging the Cryotone 300B and have no desire to experiment further for the time being. I am eagerly awaiting the two new ECC88-WCG drivers by next week so I can run a full compliment of Cryotone tubes. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 06/07/24 at 00:59:03 I think you will like the 300B-WC as they season, they get deeper and more dynamic. I really like them, but when I heard the Black Treasure 300B-Z there was something about them that just scratched an itch I've had for a long time, and with hundreds of hours they stabilized into a really wonderful presentation. I just sold my Cryotones and have a backup pair of the 300B-Z on the way and may get another. . . not sure about the longevity, and they are no longer made and quantities of the top of the line ones may become limited. I sold the 300B-WC for enough to get another pair. I also have a pair of Sophia Electric Classic 300B which I like a lot as additional tubes to play with. They have made the SEWE300B into a time machine for me and the old music I love. . .and also show the new music that I grab in excellent light as well. This amp is just an amazing component! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 07/16/24 at 01:43:19 First time without Sarah in 8 months and change. I’m not crying, you’re crying! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 08/04/24 at 21:02:50 So the reason I’ve been MIA on this thread is because of two main reasons: 1) Struggling to spend time in the rig. This is due to some healthcare concerns with my parents over the past two months plus the heatwave in NJ is making it exceedingly hot and stuffy in the basement. It’s not atypical for me to do 30 min sessions and bolt. 2) I’ve been busy tweaking and evaluating the following: AUVA EQ footers from Stack Audio Teddy Pardo LPS for my first switch in the chain (Netgear) that is connected to my modem SDFB and super piggy for my Phoenix Net SmoothLAN Network Filter from Stack Audio I first tried the AUVA EQ on my DAC and was very happy with the result. Night and day difference from the isoacoustics Zazen Platform it was resting on. I was so enamored with it that I ended up getting footers for my Phoenix Net Switch and Streaming Transport and they too, added further refinement. After mulling, trying, failing, and then mulling for another year, I ended up getting a Teddy Pardo LPS for my Netgear Switch. That too was a positive. More subtle than the AUVA EQ’s, but still there. Getting my fourth SDFB and power cord from Mark for the Phoenix Net was yet another enhancement—that was a forgone conclusion based on the SDFB track record to date. I also decided to checkout the Stack Audio SmoothLAN Filter and got some positive results there as well. All in all, I’m getting much better bass, much more detail (I don’t know why that surprised me), better soundstage/layering (with a special nod to depth), more dynamics and increased resolution. There is this sense of undeniable sonic mass in the notes, which I can’t get enough of and the vocals are even more intimate, clear, and in the room. A lot of the recordings that I’m intimately familiar with sound new—and that can only be a good thing! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 08/08/24 at 02:58:35 One thing I forgot to mention—-after my second Cryotone 5AR4 v2 arced, I reached out to Don and he is no longer recommending that particular rectifier for Sarah. I am getting a replacement 5U4 next week, which I’m also currently using in place of the 5AR4. In the meantime, I think undersold how amazing the music sounds with the AUVA EQ’s in my last post. The first set of footers on my DAC added cavernous bass, more drive/slam with grip, the sound signature became just a tad rounder at the edges vs. being precise making it a touch warmer (which I dig), and the soundstage, while certainly a touch bigger, was not necessarily because the scale increased (which has happened before), but I was getting this sense of a hole being plugged. Like there was missing pieces in the notes—that were now suddenly fully realized. I don’t know how else to explain it. And oh, better PRaT was also another positive outcome. The additional footers added depth and detail, that I thought I had plenty. However, over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been just awestruck at how much deeper I’m listening in to the recordings with so much more micro detail that I didn’t realize was there. I’m slowly going to work my way towards getting AUVA EQ’s under all my gear. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 08/08/24 at 15:16:46 Hey Kamran. Sounds like the Auva EQs are doing the right things for you. I find all the more worked out feet help in their own ways, but also adjust the sound differently...especially those with "compliant damping" seeming to be more difficult to work out with a high level of transparency and neutrality. Though perhaps sounding great to a lot of folks, to me some I have tried were a little over damped. As a point of comparison, I wonder what feet you used before these? |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 08/08/24 at 16:13:24 Hey Will— Good to hear from you! I would say there is definitely more transparency with the new footers. I’m hearing ever deeper into the recordings over the past couple of weeks and the difference over the isoacoustics platform that my DAC rested on is anything but subtle. The Innuos gear has really good anti-vibration footers to begin with, matched to the resonant frequency of the chassis, so I didn’t have aftermarket footers for them but after learning that a lot of Stack Audio customers had AUVA EQ’s underneath their Innuos gear convinced me to give it a shot and it was a homerun on both counts. I would highly recommend you give them a shot. Josh @stack audio is a gem to deal with. Cheers, Kamran |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Lon on 08/08/24 at 16:34:43 Great to hear about the Stack footers. I read good things about them on another forum. One person replaced VooDoo Cable IsoPods (which I use) with them and said they were a little better. I ordered a set of 4 to try under my PS Audio P15. |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by will on 08/09/24 at 13:27:59 Thanks Kamran, I should just order some and try them, you are right! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 10/13/24 at 05:52:38 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 10/13/24 at 23:45:26 |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Geno on 10/14/24 at 00:24:43 Beautiful photos Kam. An absolute work of art! |
Title: Re: Reflecting on Sarah Post by Kamran on 10/15/24 at 00:53:27 Thanks Geno— I wanted to capture how a small light source (my Schitt Mani’s powered on state) illuminated it from behind. I really dig how the second picture captures the contours of the amp and its shadow on the butcher block platform, the overhang of the SE input cable, and the translucency of the wbt connectors of my speaker cable going in to the binding posts—in addition to the beautiful glow of the tubes of-course. |
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