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charles hidalgo
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6v6 to el84 adapter?
03/23/23 at 07:50:36
 
Has anyone used an adapter in the mini torii? I see them
For sale at the usual places but I have never tried them.

https://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/tube-converter-yellow-jacket-yjuni-low-p...

Thank you
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #1 - 03/23/23 at 14:37:07
 
Interesting

I just got a convertor that goes from 5670 to 6922 for my MHDT Stockhom DAC and it did make the sound stage better and the bass a bit stronger.  

I do like tube rolling so this is intriguing
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #2 - 03/23/23 at 20:33:47
 
I've never heard these, don't have a mini torii, and in general my policy is to never discourage people from rolling tubes. But my experience is using a miniature 9 pin tube (like an EL84) instead of an octal tube (like a 6V6) is (almost) always a step down. Going the other way is (usually) a step up. 9 pin tubes exist because they were cheaper, not better, than the octal tubes they replaced. But of course one never knows for sure unless one tries. JMO/FWIW and all that.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #3 - 03/24/23 at 02:45:27
 
Hey grinnell that adapter might go well for that Stockholm (Syndrome) DAC but I think an EL84 would sound squeaky in the Mini Torii circuit.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #4 - 03/24/23 at 15:47:21
 
Riverranch

Yea i agree the 6V6 tube carries its weight but always curious Smiley
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Re: 6v6 to el84 or other power tube type adapter?
Reply #5 - 03/25/23 at 07:25:53
 
I should be clear and I could see how I was not. The adapter was an example and I don't literally want to adapt this amp to an el84 tube. In fact I do not. Just curious about any possible positive findings in adapters. I have , adapters that have arrived for many options like 807 and 6bg6. The amp already has plenty of options already of course but an adapter has  worked well for me in the past with the smaller 9 pins to octal so as many I'm curious.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #6 - 03/25/23 at 17:45:28
 
Hidalgo,

How do you like the 807 tubes?  Temped to try them but the extra wires and caps makes me worry about getting a shock ( my wife especially wories about that)

I have a pair of Valve Art 350B that I thought sounded a bit thin.  Using 1940's Brimar 6v6g ST and much fuller sound
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #7 - 03/25/23 at 18:37:41
 
Charlie:

What did you hide? J/k. The 807s went into my Mini and they ain’t coming out. They are that good.

Grinnell:

Have no anode cap fear. Just don’t remove the cap from the anode while the amp is turned on. You should try the 807s as well.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #8 - 03/26/23 at 16:38:57
 
any links to quality 807 adapters?

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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #9 - 03/26/23 at 21:54:13
 
I haven't used 807 adapters, but I've had good luck with ebay adapters from xulingmrs. I can't say that about other ebay sellers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/191604638854
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #10 - 03/28/23 at 16:59:44
 
The adapters I use have all been from there as well.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #11 - 04/04/23 at 01:07:39
 
The nicest tube lineup to my ears after a few days of long listening and several tube tries.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #12 - 04/05/23 at 18:26:16
 
The 807s sound fantastic in the amp. If you don't believe this, just place a 6V6 on one side and perform an A/B comparison.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #13 - 04/05/23 at 20:05:05
 
That's why they ended up there. In the last week I have tried around 10 different power tubes and a few of the 12XX7 types. This has been a spooky holographic combo with the 807's and some choice 12at7's. Incredible. Now I need to get rid of the left channel hum it arrived with. I could live with this just fine.
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Reply #14 - 04/06/23 at 13:41:19
 
Charlie:

I bought my Mini used in 2019. It was the last of the white top production from 2012. I sent it to the factory to install UFO transformers and anniversary modifications. It sounded great when it returned to me. Recently I sent it to Decware again; this time for a capacitor upgrade, volume pot cleaning/repair and to tune the headphone jack for my Senns. Needless to say this time it came back sounding even better than it had before.

You should consider sending yours to be updated. I have not tried the 12AT7 as an input but I might.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #15 - 04/06/23 at 18:50:27
 
It is worth it to me to purse a ufo upgrade I believe. I  Need to send it in anyway as it arrives with a left channel hum.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #16 - 04/11/23 at 19:40:59
 
807's have been the choice so far for me. I just dropped in a pair of 30's Ken Rad/Crosley 6K6G's. Man oh man really nice!
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #17 - 04/11/23 at 22:45:05
 
I tried some 6Ks one time; not the old G type, but newer straight bottles. I don't recall it being that much better than what I had been running. But if it sounds great to you that is what counts.

You could go after the wood base with some restorer with color in it. They sell it for around $10 at the hardware store.
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Re: 6v6 to el84 adapter?
Reply #18 - 04/12/23 at 00:46:03
 
Yeah I have some plans for this amp now I believe. Hey bud thanks again for the Mullards.  :)
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Reply #19 - 04/12/23 at 15:27:19
 
You're welcome Charlie. Those speaker wires look like dual anacondas.
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