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tempest62 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #600 - 06/15/22 at 17:11:40 Hey Joseph, that’s GREAT news! Enjoy your new life. I’ll bet your wonderful wife is very happy for you, as I am and I’m sure many of us here are. Please don’t forget to post in the new MK 5 section as to your ongoing impressions. ENJOY!!!!
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #601 - 06/15/22 at 18:14:35

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Feel like I've got an education being on the forums for over a year. Definitely thankful for that! Could not be happier....well need more gear. Have a plan, budget and a flashlight for this amazing rabbit hole I fell into.

Thanks all been a nice ride. Think I'll check the list next year.

Joseph

Joseph,
while the urge to simply relish is strong, you just can't leave for a year.

I assure you that all of us wearing finacial bits are chomping to hear what you experience with your latest.

Took eleven chomps just now.
Awaiting your evals in the coming weeks ...

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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #602 - 06/15/22 at 18:35:41 Same Old DD' Not going anywhere. Quote: Thanks all been a nice ride. Think I'll check the list next year. Sorry for the misunderstanding - Talking about checking the list and this thread for a nice time. Joseph
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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #603 - 06/15/22 at 18:56:20 Brad, Thanks for all your help, many others as well. Going to be in touch. Plenty more questions ahead and all the tube Rolling possibilities. Joseph
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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1062	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #604 - 06/15/22 at 19:15:58 Had me worried, Joseph. See you next year, then.
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Nuno Verified Member Posts: 14	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #605 - 06/15/22 at 20:43:27 Yesterday I reached the 6 months milestone! During this time I moved 214 positions. At this speed I will cross the 2,5 years... wow. I hope Steve gets the technicians needed to speed up production :)
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #606 - 06/24/22 at 22:13:25

Well, one nice thing about being on the long wait list, is the ability for us poor folks to work on paying the order off while we wait.

I just made a second payment at the 8 month mark, which takes care of almost 40% of the total. I'll pay it off ahead of time, so once I receive the amp, it'll be paid for.

Just looking at the bright side of the long wait time Cool

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Dr3wman Seasoned Member Posts: 250	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #607 - 06/24/22 at 23:07:58 Geno... I didn't know you could make payments, I assume you just call Sarah?
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chapsjon Seasoned Member Posts: 185	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #608 - 06/24/22 at 23:08:25 I'm with you Geno. I feel for those without good equipment to keep them company while they wait, but for me, I don't mind. Like you, the wait helps me save up to pay for my order.
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Geno Seasoned Member Without music, life would be a mistake. Posts: 2000	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #609 - 06/24/22 at 23:38:10 Quote: I didn't know you could make payments, I assume you just call Sarah? Yep, just call Sarah and make a payment ;)
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #610 - 06/24/22 at 23:56:21

Now that I'm about 60 places away from leaving the list, I have been checking daily. Anyone else notice that there are approximately 40 SE84UFO2.1 orders, listed as "New", at the top of the list, while other models, with later order dates, are showing more progression? Parts supply issues? Too much time on my hands?

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Dr3wman Seasoned Member Posts: 250	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #611 - 06/25/22 at 00:13:02 Yakatak - That has been my speculation. Some component, or perhaps steel for the chassis? is hung-up in the supply chain.
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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #612 - 06/25/22 at 01:40:43 Geno, For the last 14 months been dreaming and wishing I had a system like yours. FWIW I'm so broke can't pay attention. Joseph
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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #613 - 06/25/22 at 01:55:02 Geno, Thanks for paying it forward, found a piece that was missing, saved me a lot of time and money. Joseph
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Burgermeester Seasoned Member Posts: 207	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #614 - 07/02/22 at 01:37:49 I placed my preamp order 10 months ago and I'm not even halfway to delivery. The amp to go with it was ordered 8 months ago and delivery is still almost a year and a half out. Sometimes I'm not sure my mind can handle the endless waiting, and the relentless heat... Oil paints melting down the canvas...
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Steve Deckert Administrator If the 1st watt sucks why continue? Posts: 6246	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #615 - 07/02/22 at 02:45:51 UPDATE: We have another full time tech starting next week, bringing the number to 5. We we are looking for a total of 6. You'll see things ramping up by fall as we get into a new groove. Steve : )
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Donnie Seasoned Member Why does it hurt when I pee? Posts: 2196	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #616 - 07/02/22 at 03:00:10 It sounds like the turbo is kicking in up in Spring Bay!
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Steve Deckert Administrator If the 1st watt sucks why continue? Posts: 6246	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #617 - 07/02/22 at 04:06:51 It takes a long time to spin up, but that means it should take a long time to spin down : )
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Burgermeester Seasoned Member Posts: 207	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #618 - 07/03/22 at 01:14:35 Hallelujah! I can WALK!!
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Burgermeester Seasoned Member Posts: 207	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #619 - 07/18/22 at 23:40:05 I'm starting to feel sorry for Warren H. His amp has been in quality control for a month.
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michaelG Senior Member Posts: 67	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #620 - 08/01/22 at 14:59:01 ZROCK is in quality control so it’s a matter of days by now!!! the ufo should arrive later this year / early next year as I’m sitting at # 198!
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 23519	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #621 - 08/06/22 at 21:10:52 I think you won't have to wait too long for these SET amplifiers if you can't bear to wait for the Decware amps, and have a large amount of disposable income. . . . https://www.octave.de/en/htdocs/verstaerker/jubilee_mono_se.php
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Dr3wman Seasoned Member Posts: 250	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #622 - 08/06/22 at 23:13:08 Only $80,000/ pair plus $30k for the preamp, might as well get a setup for my office as well.
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Kahuna Jack Seasoned Member Posts: 132	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #623 - 08/07/22 at 00:16:02 "Only $80,000/ pair plus $30k for the preamp, might as well get a setup for my office as well" well ? that's alot of piggy banks to crack open.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 23519	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #624 - 08/07/22 at 00:46:07 Yes. Time is money, but maybe not THAT much money. I bet those sound pretty interesting though!
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Coyote Seasoned Member Posts: 182	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #625 - 08/17/22 at 17:47:28 I did it again... I checked the list. I am at 192 !!! Cheers, a.
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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #626 - 08/17/22 at 18:10:48 Coyote, Under 200 is a good place to be. Soon you will see the light at the end of the tunnel. Got curious and checked after seeing your post. Just under 1100.
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #627 - 08/17/22 at 19:17:29

OK there are 1417 people ahead of me I see 13 units in QA
let's say out of QA they ship an average six units a day five days a week

1417 divided 6 = 236 days of production

In a year there are 260 weekdays so I'm thinking I have 11 maybe 12 more months.

Does this make sense?

It probably doesn't work that way and I am overlooking some variable, some peoples units have stayed in QA a month but does my math sound reasonable?

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Beni Verified Member Posts: 14	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #628 - 08/17/22 at 19:35:21 I was ranked 770th 13 months ago and am now ranked 190th. That gives about 45 units per month. Kind regards
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #629 - 08/17/22 at 19:42:13

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Posted by: BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Posted on: Today at 19:17:29

...let's say out of QA they ship an average six units a day five days a week

I would say shipping 30 units a week is somewhere between optimistic and very optimistic. I think Decware is working to get there but the actual rate is more like half that.

I placed my order at the end of November, which was a very confusing time because it took 2 months to even get on the list but I've moved up about 360 places in the 7 months I've been on the list. That's 50ish a month.

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BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Seasoned Member It's all in one note, Just Listen Posts: 534	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #630 - 08/17/22 at 19:49:50 They were estimating 14 months when I ordered, with your estimate I still have just under 2 years maybe I will/should order the 2nd Rachel at Decfest
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CAJames Seasoned Member "I've run every red light on memory lane." Posts: 1669	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #631 - 08/17/22 at 19:59:38 I'll never discourage you from ordering more gear. .
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Skip Verified Member Posts: 34	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #632 - 08/17/22 at 20:13:41 Check the list daily. Got an email from Sarah. "Parts Pulled" on my CSP325...
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BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Seasoned Member It's all in one note, Just Listen Posts: 534	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #633 - 08/17/22 at 20:20:22 oh boy oh boy you must be psyched out
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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #634 - 08/17/22 at 20:27:44 Skip, that's awesome! Won't be much longer.
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Geno Seasoned Member Without music, life would be a mistake. Posts: 2000	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #635 - 08/17/22 at 20:28:52 My order is 10 months old now, and I'm at exactly the halfway point. So, I'm gonna expect delivery around June 1st. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it Best, Geno
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #636 - 08/17/22 at 20:29:10

Hey BJ,

I'm not sure about the math, but it could be correct - let's hope. When I first ordered in April of 2021, I was #500. It took 15 months to work down to delivery. I'm currently under 1500 for another amp, and I was figuring on 36 months based on prior experience. It would be great if it were shorter than that.

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Reply #637 - 08/17/22 at 20:45:15

I took a screen shot of the first page so I can track units as they leave the list weekly. I'll average it out after the decfest and Steve ramps up his new production crew. You really can't hurry something like this, you never know when somethings going to bottleneck. Increasing the crew by 50% this summer and fall will have some growing pains before production stabilizes. I'll take advantage of the wait with room treatments and measurements with what I have in house now. All in good time, Art for Arts Sake.

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jec3504 Ex Member	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #638 - 08/17/22 at 20:59:13 Being on the wait list is very ZEN All about enlightenment
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Dr3wman Seasoned Member Posts: 250	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #639 - 08/22/22 at 21:13:16 Hey Brad! Looks like you are in QC! Exciting times. Looking forward to your MKV impressions. Andrew
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BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Seasoned Member It's all in one note, Just Listen Posts: 534	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #640 - 08/22/22 at 21:15:22 I just checked the waitlist and compare today's waitlist to last Wednesdays and it looks like 12 units have left QA and like you said people have moved up. I'm going to take a snapshot every Monday and see how many units they're moving a week, 12 units is pretty good for three days.
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michaelG Senior Member Posts: 67	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #641 - 08/22/22 at 21:30:55 recently I moved up around 50 since July 22nd for my UFO. My ZROCK2 is shipped and will probably arrive in a few days!!
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BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Seasoned Member It's all in one note, Just Listen Posts: 534	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #642 - 08/22/22 at 22:04:25 Exciting Times!
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Reply #643 - 08/23/22 at 01:07:26

I just went the road of what a previous post suggested, buying an amp for the interim. The sound improvement from my last equipment to now is barely believable for me. I’m going to enjoy this for awhile. Not to say I am not anxious to get my 3 orders, but I do have a nice tube amp to listen to. What I’m most excited about is what comes next. Each piece of equipment will arrive at different times. Between the present system and when all the Decware items come, I will have had 2 years of an ever evolving system! Look forward to hearing the differences and learning more about this whole adventure.

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Coyote Seasoned Member Posts: 182	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #644 - 08/23/22 at 02:52:37 BicycleJoe Lo-Fi Keep in mind that depending whatever comes to QA some items take longer than others to get out of QA! a.
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #645 - 08/23/22 at 08:24:16

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I just went the road of what a previous post suggested, buying an amp for the interim. The sound improvement from my last equipment to now is barely believable for me. I’m going to enjoy this for awhile. Not to say I am not anxious to get my 3 orders, but I do have a nice tube amp to listen to.

I bought a Rega I/O just for temporary it's got a pretty good quality phono preamp built in class A/B for a temporary set up,

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Reply #646 - 08/23/22 at 14:35:19

Nice BicycleJoe. I purchased with the intent to sell the amp when the Decware stuff arrives. Probably not going to happen. With tube gear, I’d imagine that keeping extra tubes and equipment around is always wise. I don’t want to be without music for weeks if a tube goes or a problem arises. Also, good to switch it up every now and again.

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Reply #647 - 08/23/22 at 14:52:41

Yes I am stocking up on some NOS tubes specifically for the Rachael and the ZP3, I will of course run it stock while they break in to get to know the Zen sound out of the box before I start to roll. Picking up my JBL's Labor Day weekend, then I will get to hear the Rega with my TT. It's been a while since I could play vinyl in the house I'd say about 8 years.

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Earthbound Seasoned Member Posts: 210	Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List? Reply #648 - 08/23/22 at 17:15:36 I have to start the tube selection as well. Would like to get a full set of middle of the road tubes for the streamer, zrock, csp3 and amp. Then prior to build, have Steve pick out an upper level set of tubes for all the gear. I don’t know much about them yet but look forward to learning that next.
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Reply #649 - 08/23/22 at 18:11:07

I am a great believer in finding tube pulls from vintage equipment that are a good measured tube but not NOS, what you might call ANOS Almost NOS. Slightly used/pulled out of something in most cases. Upper middle of the road when compared to current production tube prices. The market fluctuates a lot often, before the pandemic the vintage tube market was soft. When Current production prices approach the level or even more than ANOS pulls I like the idea of looking at the better older tubes in the 80% range.

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