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Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio? (Read 2707 times)

Steve Deckert

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Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio?
07/12/19 at 04:55:19

I was reviewing the Munich show videos and came across this short section where you hear a pair of speakers that sound introverted and extra roomy and see the cool power meter on the amp saying 42 watts! It isn't even loud! In fact It's at a conversational listening level. It's ironic that I'm getting 4 times that loud with 2 watts because it really makes me wonder how it is even possible to need that much power to raise a speaker from the dead enough to actually hear it? No one who is mentally balanced can deny this came about over 50 years of marketing which was the dominating factor of systems like this today.

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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio? Reply #1 - 07/12/19 at 15:38:57 Every bit of the music sounded congested like I sound to myself when I have a head cold. I certainly hope this was just the recording on the video.
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Steve Deckert

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Re: Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio?
Reply #2 - 07/13/19 at 04:37:43

No, it's not the recording on the video. Watch the whole video, it's shot all with the same digital camera/recorder. Some things sound great. It's a very linear yardstick for evaluating audio gear to hear it in rooms, on on a video like this. Extremely telling, more so than if you were actually there, because on the video you hear the room 50% and the speakers 50%. At the show, you hear the speakers 60% and the room 40%. That 10% is all telling about how a system interacts with a room. I recommend watching the entire video for sure.

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Dana

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Re: Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio?
Reply #3 - 07/13/19 at 17:45:45

I watched the whole show video and was taken by a lot of things. It was amazing how so many of the high end speakers sounded similar (not in a good way). When the camera man walked thru the hall you could hear the room but inside the listening rooms the sound was constrained, like it was coming from a box.

On the other hand the MBL speakers didn't have a box or sound like it... (dancers but no box???)

They say there are no stupid questions but here goes. I realize that they are completely different technologies but Steve's egg speaker and the MBL speakers radiate from oblong spherical source with no box. Would the MBL and the egg have a similar type of sound and since the egg actually has no top would it be actually truer to the ambiance that it was recorded in?

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Brian

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Re: Is this what's wrong with hi-end audio?
Reply #4 - 07/23/19 at 04:48:36

Hi Dana,
I hope it is not a stupid question, because I am not smart enough to answer it.

Your topless speaker question does remind me of the CH Audio speaker of a few years ago. I could not find his web site so I guess they are caput.
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Sound reports were some of the best reviews I have read for any speaker.

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