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stone_of_tone

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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #50 - 08/26/15 at 15:47:04

Back at it this morning! The ORFEO output stage might be 54 hours behind the rest of the DAC... . However, I'm glad I employed the unbalanced outputs only first....to get this great impression, now the ORFEO is deployed!

My 130 hours has not been hit yet for this DAC/like it was for all the other DACS I've had in over the last 27 months... . However, at 54 hours....you know. As I did know with Steve's modded ZDSD!

I can't say enough about output stages. AH, can you say Steve's output stage coming from his ZDSD! Modeled after his Tape Deck...like the ORFEO is after the Neve 8078.

I think you get the sonic picture!

Now, the cool part is, I leave my CSP3 at volume setting and voltage settings....no need to touch during power on or off. I have the preamp in the Vega operating in its upper at 85 to 100 with no loss. No more in an out of my chair for volume adjustment.....filter mode 1 or 4 on the fly!

Cheers, enjoy musical bliss, and peace.
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #51 - 08/27/15 at 07:10:37

Glad to hear your are enjoying the ORFEO, it's really nice imo. Some friends reported no difference but I think it's a synergy thing depending on what components you have.

Still waiting on my upgraded UFO Rachel w/ bias mod. Between that, using the ORFEO, and upgrade caps in speakers...I'm REALLY getting antsy to hear my system again.

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stone_of_tone

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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #52 - 08/27/15 at 15:10:45

imo too....ORFEO difference is very apparent. If it did not show my ears/brain for the better the last 12 hours, with it deployed (I love that hours counter) after running the RCA output for 50+ hours......I would return the Vega. she ain't going anywhere............ . Cool

Of course, I would put my standard 130 hours on it before making a final decision/if the ORFEO was not readily apparent. However, the Vega has shown so much already....she stays. She will continue to really shine I bet ~ going towards 130. SO, blow it out your ear Lon. Grin

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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #53 - 08/27/15 at 16:08:41

I don't know why you have to continuously be so rude. What am I supposed to blow out my ear? That you find this acceptable after so little hours? So what. I maintain that you gave the DS too short a listen, and I'm not alone in finding that the DS takes 600 hours or more to come into its own, I've read that often from DS owners on the PS Audio forum and elsewhere. So I feel your comparisons of it to others are from when it was not at its best.

I'm happy you are enjoying your DAC and hope your enjoyment continues. Have a great time with it.

I'm going back to listening to music because I'm very satisfied with the sound I'm hearing, the quest is ended.

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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #54 - 08/27/15 at 16:12:16 Quote: SO, blow it out your ear Lon. Jeeze Stone, this is getting old! Why don't you go join a political forum where you can vent? Or how about you just grow up!
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #55 - 08/27/15 at 16:20:59

Archie, Archie, Archie....and Lon you don't need 600 hours on it. Quit drinking the Cool-Aid.

I had plenty of hours on it. This is what makes you an ass Lon...and called you out on it.
Including the placating of you that took place over the regen on the ZMA.
Like I said: I can pull up other instances of your nonsense Lon....let me know?

This video explains it all to you two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko

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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #56 - 08/27/15 at 16:23:28 HiFitubes, hope you get your Rachel back soon. Caps? Yes, I'm so happy with my mod in my Adagio's with Mundorf Mcap Supremes! Tempted to put Silvers in, but no need...these are the deal!
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 23512	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #57 - 08/27/15 at 16:25:47 Sorry, I'm not watching your silly video. Believe what you want to, but you just reinforce my incliniation to take your "opinions" with the aid of a salt shaker.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #58 - 08/27/15 at 16:26:53 I had plenty of hours on it. This is what makes you an ass Lon...and I called you out on it. Including the placating of you that took place over the regen on the ZMA. Like I said: I can pull up other instances of your nonsense Lon....let me know?
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #59 - 08/27/15 at 16:35:37

Believe whatever you want Larry, I'm through with your rudeness. I've admitted that I was apparently wrong about the ZMA and regeneration, and my previous experience with regeneration and four other Decware amps had led me to a wrong opinion. You're wrong about the hours on the DS but what do I care any longer, you've closed your mind, would rather be insulting. I'm done with your words and opinions.

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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #60 - 08/27/15 at 16:38:50 I'm not being insulting...but you inject on every thread like you are the gospel?!!!! You have been called out on it~deal with it and try to shut it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 23512	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #61 - 08/27/15 at 16:55:07 Not looking at your videos. Whatever Larry, enjoy yourself. It's an open board and I can post where I want. But I'm no longer posting anything addressing you.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #62 - 08/27/15 at 16:57:30 Facts speak for themselves. The Video is very good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko Peace. 8-)
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #63 - 08/27/15 at 22:33:32

Seems this forum is special in it focus on passing around real information for the benefit of other seekers, and carefully civil....And...without having to wade through a bunch of useless like or dislike comments that have no explanation or context for us to discern if something might be good for our systems. I think this is really worth trying to preserve and nurture.

Stone, you are getting out good info on your Vega exploration as it unfolds, and personal jabs seem mostly about things Lon wrote that you interpret as insulting from other threads. Lon says he is trying to contribute to an informed dialog in the interest of relative accuracy, and both, most of the time, seem to be about working toward the end of helping all of us via your experiences.

As far as I can tell, in THIS thread, the following whacked things out.

Stone: "PS Audio is shamed by this unit in sound and build. The plastic box that the PS DSD DAC comes in is embarrassing (for PS Audio)."

Objectively, doesn't this sound insulting, especially toward those who like the DAC?

Lon's response: "I don't know why you feel you have to insult every other brand, but anyway the PS Audio DirectStream has a metal box with a wood lid."

Again, objectively, isn't this for the most part true...and the PSA DSDAC does not have a plastic box?

We all know some comments are hard not to take personally. I think this is partly because everyone communicates in writing differently AND everyone is unique in their experience/room/system..... I hope we can try to keep this forum focussed on helping each other experience the magic of great music in the home!

Will

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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #64 - 08/27/15 at 22:52:55

Will.
I disagree, my thoughts on this thread are that Stone and Lon strip down and fight hand to hand in some back alley, Gladiator style, to the death.
That is the only way to figure out what company makes the best DAC.
Hell I think Wyred 4 Sound are the best.
I'm ready to duke it out!
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will Seasoned Member Posts: 2919	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #65 - 08/27/15 at 22:56:44 Nope. The Tranquility DAC is the best!
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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #66 - 08/28/15 at 00:05:35 No no no! My DAC is the best!
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Donnie Seasoned Member Why does it hurt when I pee? Posts: 2196	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #67 - 08/28/15 at 00:17:00 It sounds like a cage needs to be set up at DecFest this year to determine what DAC is the best! I'll wear my stompin' boots!
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #68 - 08/28/15 at 00:41:39 You all totally reinforce my point. Lon thinks his DAC is best. Some post cognitive dissonance he suffers?
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Archie Seasoned Member Posts: 2731	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #69 - 08/28/15 at 01:03:24 You have a point? Seems more like a grudge. I learn a lot from the both of you. I've never seen where Lon gets personal though. Why not just wipe the slate clean and go on from here. Lon can talk about his need for a treble switch and you can talk about your killer interconnects.
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #71 - 08/28/15 at 01:48:43

stone_of_tone wrote on 08/28/15 at 00:41:39:

You all totally reinforce my point. Lon thinks his DAC is best. Some post cognitive dissonance he suffers?

Those are words put into my mouth that don't fit. I think my DS is the best DAC I've heard and I'm very happy with it. I thought you gave neither the PWD nor the DS enough hours. I don't know why but they both need 300 to 800 hours to really seat and be their best. You dismissed them with far less hours and started talking badly about them. I've tried to point out that your analysis was incomplete as you hadn't put enough time on them, and you take that as some sort of personal attack or tantrum. You also made an inaccurate statement about the casework and I become some sort of villain because I point out the inaccuracy. You start telling me to blow things out here and there, it's totally uncalled for, it's high school locker room talk.

I just find it far too tedious to communicate with you and I'm no longer going to make the effort.

As I see it these amps and preamps we use are so amazingly powerhouses of fidelity that we can keep sticking amazing front ends in front of them and all get great results. How we ultimately value each of these is going to be different due to our rooms, our power, our isolation, our cabling and our musical tastes and the formats we listen to. There's a level where one is better for us than another, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is better for someone else. As long as we are giving a component a fair, lengthy audition and giving accurate information about the component and the system environment, these discussions are very helpful, and interesting. When we aren't it's just a lot of hot air.

I'll leave you to your Aureliac and the upcoming weekend. Enjoy. I'm not going to discuss this further.

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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #72 - 08/28/15 at 12:51:17

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Will.
I disagree, my thoughts on this thread are that Stone and Lon strip down and fight hand to hand in some back alley, Gladiator style, to the death.
That is the only way to figure out what company makes the best DAC.
Hell I think Wyred 4 Sound are the best.
I'm ready to duke it out!
By the way, I'm 6' tall and 240 lbs of gristle and snake venom.

Best post EVER! (of the week).

I need to find another DAC brand so I can get in on this cage match! I fight dirty though. :)

I hope you boys are done though - I'd like to hear more about gear with less of the girly drama. I have other forums for that.

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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #73 - 08/28/15 at 14:18:38 Yes! Best post of week. Plus, you can't beat Donnie's ear horn capture for the details in the music pic! .....and "why does it hurt when I pee".
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #74 - 08/28/15 at 14:46:30 Lon, I almost missed your babbling again here on the Auralic thread?!! The Video is REALLY very good/speaks to you specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko Peace. 8-)
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Lonely Raven Seasoned Member Jack of all Trades, Master of None Posts: 3567	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #75 - 08/28/15 at 15:54:33 Quote: .....and "why does it hurt when I pee". I shouldn't have been drinking coffee when I read that...
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 23512	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #76 - 08/28/15 at 17:57:20 Sorry, I don't watch videos on youtube, and it's probably just another crude insult from you. Have a nice weekend.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #77 - 08/28/15 at 19:09:04 My NSA informants tell me, you've watched it more than once! ;D Hey, you might need to put 600 hours on it first~before viewing again though......... . :o
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will Seasoned Member Posts: 2919	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #78 - 08/28/15 at 19:42:31 Jeez Stone.
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stone_of_tone Seasoned Member Listen Often/Listen Deep Posts: 3217	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #79 - 08/28/15 at 19:46:52 Oh, the ORFEO output is singing to me baby (thru my modded XLR adapters).....SINGING! (Seriously).
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #80 - 08/28/15 at 23:28:30 Guys, I wish I even had one DAC so I could get in on the DAC Death Cage Match. My lowly Jolida 100 CD player is no competition but I like it. So, Blah Blah Blah...Blah...Blah Blah. Mark. PS...I might even fly to Illinois to see such a spectacle...
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Donnie Seasoned Member Why does it hurt when I pee? Posts: 2196	Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor Reply #81 - 08/29/15 at 00:16:22 I have a Wadia " Power DAC" that I can loan out for anyone wanting to get into the cage match. It sounds ok I guess, it powers my garage stereo. It might not really be the best, but worth fighting for, or not. I gave my Decware ZDAC away a couple of years ago at the 'Fest, but it never ran long enough to fight over.
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Re: AURALiC Vega D/A processor
Reply #82 - 08/29/15 at 02:50:32

Float like a dragonfly sting like a bee...best DAC ever, Audioquest Dragonfly...

The Asynchronous Transfer Ensures Digital Timing Integrity an the
Dual Fixed-Frequency Master Clocks Enable Optimal ‘Clocking’ (Digital Timing) For All Sample Rates. Made of plastic too...

My Dragonfly is a savage beast and is trained in the art of the flying elbow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ypgpoP02JM

Cage Match...Oh Yeah...Bring it on...

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