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https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl AUDIO FORUMS >> D.I.Y. >> Orion three way speakers https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1673307729 Message started by EdwardT on 01/09/23 at 23:42:09 |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by 4krow on 01/10/23 at 01:37:46 This may well be an interesting build. Thanks for decent photos. Sounds silly to ask but what glue will you use? I have tried many kinds and like a longer set time than some out there. I am betting that you have a bunch of clamps too. I will keep my eye on this thread since speaker building has been great over the years for me. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by EdwardT on 01/10/23 at 13:05:03 Titebond III gives me enough time to set the clamps; and I’m going to need to increase my clamp herd by four :-) I’m also planning to invert the order, normally I’d install the crossover after the mdf glue up but this is really large and the separate mid/hi chamber will make setting the hold down screws a trick. So, I’ll be taping up the openings and doing the interior work before glue up. That’s bound to present some novel problems but I’m here for it. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by 4krow on 01/24/23 at 02:16:10 I continue interest with your project. Part of the reason is the build quality and thought that you have put into it. I am at kinda the same point with a baffle not glued in yet, and thought the same as you with the crossover, but I can get mine in through the port hole, just barely. The shop isn't even close to cozy temp wise, so I gotta wait it out for some time to come. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by 4krow on 01/25/23 at 21:33:59 Don't get me started on open time! Some glues are faster than my hands. I even tend to use an overabundance of glue, thinking that it might get me an edge but instead it just gives me a mess. I am like you walking round my workbench looking and trying to capitalize off my time for a glue up knowing full well what the price of forgetting something can turn out to be. I agree with the thinking about the dowel, as I have considered as an afterthought this idea for my DNA2 build. Much better to get it right before finishing the cabinet. In my case, I have considered using a pipe stanchion on each inside wall and then figuring the rest out as I go along. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by EdwardT on 01/25/23 at 21:54:27 I used a Forstner bit and ran it about 3/8” deep, then I clamped the parts together and measured the result using the depth probe on a plastic caliper, marking it on the edge. I cut the dowel to that instead of a tape. Did a few test fits, practiced fitting the sides just to test the idea. I did not practice with all of the clamps and I should have given that a go, it would have taught me where to stage the clamps for best access during glue up. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by 4krow on 01/25/23 at 22:45:37 It doesn't always work out, but sometimes I use my workbench as part of the clamping process. It is really flat and if the cabinet dimensions agree with it then I can lay the speaker cabinet sideways on the bench. In some cases, everything falls into place, and I will even be able to clamp the whole cabinet at once. Also there have been times where a stack of panels on top/side of the speakers being clamped are placed so that the pressure of the clamp is spread across a wider area. But you already know no one can have enough clamps! Here's a thought. I don't know how you might be heating your shop, but I have found that in spite of the idea that I like radiant heat, it dries the glue even faster. Yup, you get even less open time. Kind cool for some finish work though. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by Geno on 02/23/23 at 00:08:37 Edward, Nice work!!! I really like the veneer, and look forward to seeing the end results. Best, Geno |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by EdwardT on 02/25/23 at 18:00:05 I’m really pleased that I bought new router bits. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by EdwardT on 03/06/23 at 22:17:49 Rubio Monocoat Pure, coating #1: |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by HockessinKid on 03/06/23 at 23:56:02 Ed, Those cabinets look great, congratulations! HK |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by 4krow on 03/07/23 at 04:24:38 That grain and the way that you laid it out stopped me dead. That is really impressive work, and no it wouldn't be if you didn't get it laid out the way you did, it would be about half as good. How much finish do you plan to use? |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by JBzen on 03/07/23 at 10:11:22 Nice work Ed. The grain flows nicely in those latest pics 😍 |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by EdwardT on 03/07/23 at 17:12:26 They’re still a work in progress, the Rubio Monocoat is not even in a few places. The remedy (according to the Rubio help desk) is to cure them and then scuff thoroughly with a red pad (approx 320 grit) and apply a new coat. Unknown to me, African Anegre is likely a softwood and the oil penetrates unevenly. I’ll busy myself building the stands while I wait. |
Title: Re: Orion three way speakers Post by Bottlehead on 03/27/23 at 07:27:57 Those look professionally done, Ed. Good work. Randy |
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